Is this worth the money or not ?? Pc build by cyber power

[sordrp]

This is going to be the first pc that I buy so I’m not really sure if it’s going to be worth it or not. I just need someone’s educated opinion.
I’m getting it from cyberpower, it’s the Syber XL Hyper Liquid II
The parts are
Case -Syber XL Series E-ATX Full-Tower Gaming Case
CPU- Intel Core Processor i7-8086K
CPU cooling- Thermaltake Custom PETG Hard-Tube Water Cooling kit with 360mm Radiator, W2 CPU Block, D5 Reservoir+Pump
Motherboard- ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero
Ram- 32gb 8bgx4 ADATA Spectrix D80 RGB Hybrid Liquid Heatsink cooling
GPU- MSI GeForce® GTX 1080 Ti GAMING X 11GB GDDR5X + Phanteks GPU Full Water Block
Power supply- 1000w
SSD- 500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO
HHD- 4TB + 32GB Intel Optane Memory HDD Acceleration
It all comes out to $3200 in the end.

 

[USAFRet]

$3200 for a CyberPowerPC.
At first blush, no.
Even if it comes with a powdered unicorn horn/puppy plasma slurry for the thermal paste....no.

What will you be using this for?

 

[USAFRet]

It looks like you just went down their list and selected the most expensive parts.

32GB RGB liquid cooled RAM?
Why?

 

[bmockeg]

I'm with USAFRet. Seems like a lot of money to spend on a crappy company.

 

[Rogue Leader]

This is going to be the first pc that I buy so I’m not really sure if it’s going to be worth it or not. I just need someone’s educated opinion.
I’m getting it from cyberpower, it’s the Syber XL Hyper Liquid II
The parts are
Case -Syber XL Series E-ATX Full-Tower Gaming Case
CPU- Intel Core Processor i7-8086K
CPU cooling- Thermaltake Custom PETG Hard-Tube Water Cooling kit with 360mm Radiator, W2 CPU Block, D5 Reservoir+Pump
Motherboard- ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero
Ram- 32gb 8bgx4 ADATA Spectrix D80 RGB Hybrid Liquid Heatsink cooling
GPU- MSI GeForce® GTX 1080 Ti GAMING X 11GB GDDR5X + Phanteks GPU Full Water Block
Power supply- 1000w
SSD- 500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO
HHD- 4TB + 32GB Intel Optane Memory HDD Acceleration
It all comes out to $3200 in the end.

Huge waste of money, you can build it cheaper and eliminate that watercooling garbage that you REALLY don't need.

Same build, better quality parts, no water cooling garbage, almost $1000 less
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8086K 4GHz 6-Core Processor ($418.90 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG MAXIMUS X HERO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($259.59 @ Newegg Business)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($349.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Toshiba - X300 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($110.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB GAMING X Video Card ($714.99 @ B&H)
Case: Corsair - 750D ATX Full Tower Case ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Platinum 750W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($104.40 @ B&H)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($94.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $2452.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-17 22:44 EDT-0400

 

[sordrp]

I don’t want to build it myself I have no problem paying someone to do it for me I don’t have the time. And yeah the 32bg of ram isn’t necessary(it’s not part of the liquid loop) I just found that out after some google searches. I honestly want to pay for the liquid cooling because simply I like the idea and look of it. Most of the parts I selected are part of the build on their website.
Mostly what I’ll be using it for is 4K gaming and I want a high FPS.

 

[sordrp]

Point me in a better direction?? Company wise.

 

[Kashimi]

I'd forgo the 8086K and just go with the 8700K. with the setup that you're going with you can easily OC the CPU to preform on the same level as the 8086K. Your RAM doesn't need to be liquid cooled either.

 

[Rogue Leader]

I don’t want to build it myself I have no problem paying someone to do it for me I don’t have the time. And yeah the 32bg of ram isn’t necessary(it’s not part of the liquid loop) I just found that out after some google searches. I honestly want to pay for the liquid cooling because simply I like the idea and look of it. Most of the parts I selected are part of the build on their website.
Mostly what I’ll be using it for is 4K gaming and I want a high FPS.

If you are not building it yourself you do not want a liquid cooling setup like that, as it requires quite a bit of maintenance just to keep it working right and keep it from leaking and ruining your parts. Liquid cooling like that is for a DIY person that if you aren't building it you are not.

Building it yourself will save you a ton of money and it really is easy to do. Its your money sure, but at least dump that liquid cooling stuff.

 

[Kashimi]

Also, regardless of the company you use, whether it be Maingear, cyberpower, or ibuypower, you're going to pay more for your build than you should considering they take short cuts like using Chinese off brand parts for RAM and power supplies unless you specifically request the upgraded name brand part.

The nice thing for sure is not having to deal with cable management and running the plumbing for the liquid cooler.

If you are set on using a builder company, then go for it. Not everyone here wants to be a pc builder, some just enjoy having the product. That's the reason these companies exist. Don't feel bad if that's what you decide to do. My biggest advice is just buy the parts that actually make sense.

 

[sordrp]

Another reason for the liquid cooling is I might try to get into Overclocking. After changing the ram to 16gb the price is $2900
So I mean it’s kinda worth it to me to have someone else build it and get liquid cooling and only spend 300 more compared to the list someone just showed above.

 

[sordrp]

Basic what I need to know now is will it be good enough for 4K gaming with no heat problems and I want to keep the noise down, liquid cooling can help with that.

 

[sordrp]

And how long could I expect something like this to last me ? Assuming I keep everything maintained properly

 

[Kashimi]

Yes that setup would be able to handle 4K gaming. Yes the liquid cooling will keep your temps in check. Assuming you keep everything well maintained it should last you several years. You're going to have parts failure before you run into performance issues based on system specs not meeting demands.

 

[sordrp]

If I did switch to the i7 8700k like you said then it’d probably be just as good as the 8086k and it would save me an extra $80. But do you really think there’s not much of a difference between the two ?

 

[Kashimi]

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-8700K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-8086K/3937vsm516988

 

[sordrp]

I’ll take the $80 😀. Not much of a difference. I’m glad you pointed that out

 

[Kashimi]

Yea, it's legit like 2% difference, honestly once you OC the CPU up to 5ghz it wont matter anyway.

 

[tejayd]

If you are going big, it's probably best to wait for new gpu's. Assuming they will be out in a month or so. If you don't want to wait, here's something interesting to check out. It's not for everyone. https://www.corsair.com/us/en/one

 

[Kashimi]

If you are going big, it's probably best to wait for new gpu's. Assuming they will be out in a month or so. If you don't want to wait, here's something interesting to check out. It's not for everyone. https://www.corsair.com/us/en/one

I'd agree except that waiting may be longer than anticipated since everyone knows that availability to the newest GPU's is always slim pickings for awhile because they get bought up so quickly.

 

[bmockeg]

My opinion, if you are gonna drop $3000, wait till October for the new CPUs and GPUs

 

[bignastyid]

For that kind of money look a custom builder like Origin, DigitalStorm or Maingear, much better build quality and reputation than cyberpower/ibuypower.

A custom water loop will require regular maintenance, yearly you will need to drain the loop, buy coolant(or the materials to mix your own) and refill the loop. If you want water cooling with minimal maintenance get a closed loop/sealed loop cooler. Not sure where you got liquid cooling is quieter than air as both still require fans and with a liquid cooler you add a pump to the list of noise causing devices. A big plus of air coolers is they won't leak and damage hardware and they don't have pumps that can fail.

 

[USAFRet]

Basic what I need to know now is will it be good enough for 4K gaming with no heat problems and I want to keep the noise down, liquid cooling can help with that.

Liquid cooling is generally "louder" than a good air cooler.
More moving parts.

Pump, liquid through the tubes, fans across the rad.
An air cooler just has the fan(s).

 

[Kashimi]

I definitely agree with going for the closed loop over the open loop to avoid the maintenance hassle but it sounds like he's wanting something flashy.

 

[sordrp]

That’s something I thought about after a lot of researching I think a new gpu is coming out next month that’s supposed to be like one of the top GPU’s so I’ll probably just hold off on it til then. And could you explain what exactly you mean by closed and open loop ? A lot of this is still new to me. I’ve always been a console gamer. But I’m starting to see the better side