Is this worth the money or not ?? Pc build by cyber power

[sordrp]

This is going to be the first pc that I buy so I’m not really sure if it’s going to be worth it or not. I just need someone’s educated opinion.
I’m getting it from cyberpower, it’s the Syber XL Hyper Liquid II
The parts are
Case -Syber XL Series E-ATX Full-Tower Gaming Case
CPU- Intel Core Processor i7-8086K
CPU cooling- Thermaltake Custom PETG Hard-Tube Water Cooling kit with 360mm Radiator, W2 CPU Block, D5 Reservoir+Pump
Motherboard- ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero
Ram- 32gb 8bgx4 ADATA Spectrix D80 RGB Hybrid Liquid Heatsink cooling
GPU- MSI GeForce® GTX 1080 Ti GAMING X 11GB GDDR5X + Phanteks GPU Full Water Block
Power supply- 1000w
SSD- 500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO
HHD- 4TB + 32GB Intel Optane Memory HDD Acceleration
It all comes out to $3200 in the end.

 

[sordrp]

I’ll definitely look at those other builders. IBuypower and cyber pc were like the first two I ran into.

 

[Kashimi]

That’s something I thought about after a lot of researching I think a new gpu is coming out next month that’s supposed to be like one of the top GPU’s so I’ll probably just hold off on it til then. And could you explain what exactly you mean by closed and open loop ? A lot of this is still new to me. I’ve always been a console gamer. But I’m starting to see the better side

So open loop means a reservoir with a drain plug that you manage

Closed loop means its a factory sealed unit that has no drain plug, and no reservoir. You do not maintain that product other than blowing dust out of it.

Look up the NZXT Kraken x62, it's the closed loop processor cooler that I'm using, and look up the EVGA 1080ti hybrid thats the GPU I use. This way I get the benefits of water cooling, but the worry free management of something that isn't any harder to deal with than air cooled.

 

[Karadjgne]

Full custom loops are awesome to look at. But! It's one of those things that most definitely require you know how to build in order to fix. FCL temps are measured differently, they don't subscribe to the standard rise and fall and max temps of an air/aio cooler. You really need to know the what's, why's, how's of loops or you'll drive yourself nuts thinking something is wrong when the pc takes 30 minutes to drop temps fully after 2 hrs of solid gaming. And if you spring a drip from a fitting that's already tight? FCL isn't for the uninitiated, it's a dream for the experienced to work towards.

So, do yourself a favor. Take a revised build, the actual parts, not brands or models, and go shopping. There's advertising for multiple custom builders on any website dealing with pc's, hit them all, build the dream pc and see which has the most to offer. Some use custom cases, some custom paint jobs, some have better service/support, some have better quality and value, some offer guaranteed OC, some just don't. But do the research. It's a large chunk of change to invest, do so knowing what you are getting into.

 

[sordrp]

Yes trust me I’m going into this with caution and I am mechanically inclined enough to build a pc myself it’s just not something I’d rather pay someone to do. I do need to learn more about that though for sure. I’m not worried about not being able to fix a leak seeing as how I’ve done plumbing and can work on brake lines which I’m positive is far less complicated than a hard plastic tube lol I need to learn more about the temps everything should and shouldn’t be at. But that being said is there like software that monitors the parts of your pc and adjust the fans according if they get too hot?
And Kashimi thanks a lot you have been helpful! I don’t sense the ego problem that I get from a lot of people I talk to on forums with you

 

[Kashimi]

Yea, there's tons of programs that you can use to monitor the temps and set your fans to adjust based on a curve to provide cooling. Everyone has their favorite but the most commonly used are MSI Afterburner for GPU and Speedfan for CPU.

The thing is though with CPU and Chassis fans, the program is only going to respond to how they are wired in. If you purchase a case that comes with a bunch of fans already installed that will make it different than if you install the fans onto a sata connector.

Also, thank you for the complement. I just enjoy talking tech. For me the joy of owning a PC shouldn't be shadowed by whether or not you built it.

 

[sordrp]

Yeah that’s why I came here to see if everything in the build I listed would line up so to speak. I am in no hurry to get a pc it’s more about making sure I get the one I want.
I remember reading something about I’d have to make sure my motherboard would work with the amount of fans I need. There’s a lot to this and I’m starting to realize it can be a lot of planning and researching. Especially to someone like me that a lot of this is all new to. I only know a few people that are into pc gaming

 

[sordrp]

This is just a random thought and question but how do pc games or a pc in general look if I were to run them on a tv ? Just temporary until I get a monitor and desk. The tv is a 50 inch 4K uhd. In my opinion 50 inches is too big for gaming.

 

[Kashimi]

They look great until you play on a real dedicated PC monitor. Especially something like 1440p at 144hz. A TV is usually capped at 4K - 30fps a PC monitor can get better frames, and also since you generally don't game on a 50 inch screen, you're also going to see less up-scaling issues.

When you switch from the TV to a monitor you're going to notice crisper text and lines, and better colors.

That's been my experience anyway, and I've gamed on like 5 or 6 different TV's over time every time TV tech gets better and better, and every time I do, I switch back to a monitor.

 

[sordrp]

I’ve never shopped for a monitor and only recently started considering it since I’ve always gamed on console. My problem with this tv (purchased it recently, coming from a 32 inch) it’s like there’s too much “eye travel” to see the other side of the screen, if that makes sense. As to a monitor they’re usually smaller in size so it’s easier to focus on the entire screen.
I look forward to switching to pc though

 

[Kashimi]

If you're going with 32gb of ram (you can, just get rid of the liquid cooled RAM and it will be more affordable) and the i7 - 8700K, I think it would be a challenge for you to make the system start lagging hardcore just from opening too many chrome tabs. I mean if you opened up like 75 Runescape tabs, sure. but just a bunch of mindless web browsing, you would have other issues if you can make that system struggle lol.

Also, about the 'eye-travel' thing, that's why most monitors are 27 inches or smaller. PC gaming is meant to be played from about 3 feet away, meaning that you really don't need more than 27 inches. Also the smaller screen keeps things tighter and neater.

 

[sordrp]

That sounds good to me! I want something that’s powerful but that’s not going to be too powerful. I know liquid cooled ram sounds expensive but it doesn’t add anything to the price. The original bundle came with 32gb of a no name brand ram. But I upgraded to a name brand. Which was the G.SKILLZ TRIDENTZ RGB. Then they let you upgrade from that for free to multiple different makes.

This is the ram. Just has it’s own “liquid cooling” it’s not part of the loop. http://www.adata.com/us/feature/553

 

[Kashimi]

That sounds good to me! I want something that’s powerful but that’s not going to be too powerful. I know liquid cooled ram sounds expensive but it doesn’t add anything to the price. The original bundle came with 32gb of a no name brand ram. But I upgraded to a name brand. Which was the G.SKILLZ TRIDENTZ RGB. Then they let you upgrade from that for free to multiple different makes.

This is the ram. Just has it’s own “liquid cooling” it’s not part of the loop. http://www.adata.com/us/feature/553

I have never seen that before lol.

Not sure how that RAM would preform as this is completely new to me, but it sure looks cool. If it isn't costing you anything extra to go with that option then go for it.

 

[sordrp]

The looks and the whole idea of water sitting in a tube on top of my ram got me interested

 

[logainofhades]

Another reason for the liquid cooling is I might try to get into Overclocking. After changing the ram to 16gb the price is $2900
So I mean it’s kinda worth it to me to have someone else build it and get liquid cooling and only spend 300 more compared to the list someone just showed above.

Due to Intel's use of cheap TIM, under the heat spreader, even a custom loop does little to improve temps vs say a high end air cooler. It's literally just throwing money away.

[video="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw4HONEkj4s"][/video]

 

[Karadjgne]

Agreed. Right now, with as efficient as new cpus are, compared to the old heat monsters like the P4, FCL is pretty much equitable unless you move up to the x299/threadripper cpus using massive core counts and very high wattage outputs. This is where the sheer volume of multiple rads and coolant makes a huge difference. For anything less, a good 280mm aio or air cooler such as the Noctua NH-D15/s is just fine.