Is upgrade worth is?

[kn1012]

Have an athlon ii X4 760K (3.8GHz), Nvidia 750GTX 1GB, 8GB DDR3 1600MHz and a SSD.

Want to upgrade to FX-8320 Vishera 8-Core (3.5 GHz, 4.0 GHz Turbo), same RAM, same SSD but add 1TB mechanical (64MB sATA3).

Don't know a great deal about the subtleties of hardware.. The scores for my current CPU and the 8-core seem similar, and the price is my max. The FX processor was released much later than my current one, but seems like 8 cores and all the extra cache would be worth it, even though the clock is lower..???

The GPU is a major, I want an upgrade to be able to play newer games. Overall.. should I keep the CPU? Is this build worth it now?

 

[Gingerbread]

If you want to play newer games, upgrade the GPU, not the CPU. But that upgrade depends on your PSU and your budget.

 

[ak47jar3d]

I would look into intel haswell processors instead. The fx platform is dead and just can match intel's i5 processors in gaming performance.

 

[Sumo999]

So your keeping ram, ssd, gpu and upgrading everything else. Or are you keeping psu, case and OS as well.

You have not give a great deal of detail.

Is it just the mboard and CPU your upgrading then and what is your budget.

 

[kn1012]

So your keeping ram, ssd, gpu and upgrading everything else. Or are you keeping psu, case and OS as well.

You have not give a great deal of detail.

Is it just the mboard and CPU your upgrading then and what is your budget.

I'm switching to R9 380, keeping 8GB RAM and sATA3 SSD. If I get a new processor, I'll need a new board.

 

[kn1012]

I would look into intel haswell processors instead. The fx platform is dead and just can match intel's i5 processors in gaming performance.

The problem is intel is so expensive. If FX is dead, what is the equivalent in AMD? I forgot to post the card, the R9 380. Should I pair that with an APU? It seems those processors are less powerful than the FX ones.

 

[Sumo999]

You do know you will need another board for the fx-8320 as well, what budget do you have that way people can give you more options

 

[kn1012]

You do know you will need another board for the fx-8320 as well, what budget do you have that way people can give you more options

Yeah I'd need an FM3 board if I got an FX. The parts listed are pretty much my budget. Going to sell my current machine to a friend for 150 or so and the video card for 50 or so, and spend 300. So about a 500 give or take a few dollar budget. I am keeping RAM. Getting a cheap case.

The Cheapest i5 quad is 180. 40 dollars more than the AMD I listed.

The FX has less clock speed and older tech than my current CPU, but double the cores and more cache. The highest end APU AMD makes doesn't seem worth it over FX, plus don't know if it's R7 is compatible with the R9 looking at. Nor how many games even support the APU dual graphics. Seems like a dilemma. There's no really new AMD hardware so the best route up seems the expensive intel. Else just spend 500 bucks for a slightly better system with a much better graphics card. I don't know..

Edit: AM3, not FM3

 

[kn1012]

If you want to play newer games, upgrade the GPU, not the CPU. But that upgrade depends on your PSU and your budget.

Gamedebate always recommends an FX for the newer games, over FM2 slot cpus (like I have)

 

[assassin445522]

FM2 and AM3+ and sadly all AMD cpu's will not perform as well as an i5 in gaming, there's no way of getting around that because most games dont use all 8 cores that AMD offers if they did then the FX series would be an excellent choice for gaming as seen in BF4 a fx 8 core beast an i5 and comes close to an i7 for hundreds of dollars less

But currently intel is crushing AMD so if you want to upgrade your CPU to stop stuttering then get an i5 4460 with an ASUS h81m lga 1150 Motherboard.
In my opinion generally upgrading CPU is better that way when you get a better GPU you dont bottlneck...But that gtx 750 with 1gb of Vram is begging for you to end its life.
Whats your budget for an upgrade?

 

[kn1012]

Great response thanks. After I sell this PC to a pal and divvy the parts they wouldn't need (they wouldn't need a GTX for youtube and office work, and 4GB of RAM will be fine for them, and save me on RAM-- want to get same model in 4GB to maintain the dual channel thing-o)-- anyway, all said and done I'll have like 500 bucks for everything.

The 4GB 1600mhz RAM, 1TB drive, R9 380 and cheap case, plus the two parts you recommended comes to 550 on NewEgg, without PSU or fans (case fans, plus haven't looked at how the stock Intel and R9 fans are). I have an old Antec 550 that I got used like 20 months ago, so hoping to hang onto that.

Would it make sense to get the FX for when the games start to use the 8 cores, or will that be a couple years so that I'd be looking for a next upgrade anyway?

FM2 and AM3+ and sadly all AMD cpu's will not perform as well as an i5 in gaming, there's no way of getting around that because most games dont use all 8 cores that AMD offers if they did then the FX series would be an excellent choice for gaming as seen in BF4 a fx 8 core beast an i5 and comes close to an i7 for hundreds of dollars less

But currently intel is crushing AMD so if you want to upgrade your CPU to stop stuttering then get an i5 4460 with an ASUS h81m lga 1150 Motherboard.
In my opinion generally upgrading CPU is better that way when you get a better GPU you dont bottlneck...But that gtx 750 with 1gb of Vram is begging for you to end its life.
Whats your budget for an upgrade?

 

[Sumo999]

Great response thanks. After I sell this PC to a pal and divvy the parts they wouldn't need (they wouldn't need a GTX for youtube and office work, and 4GB of RAM will be fine for them, and save me on RAM-- want to get same model in 4GB to maintain the dual channel thing-o)-- anyway, all said and done I'll have like 500 bucks for everything.

The 4GB 1600mhz RAM, 1TB drive, R9 380 and cheap case, plus the two parts you recommended comes to 550 on NewEgg, without PSU or fans (case fans, plus haven't looked at how the stock Intel and R9 fans are). I have an old Antec 550 that I got used like 20 months ago, so hoping to hang onto that.

Would it make sense to get the FX for when the games start to use the 8 cores, or will that be a couple years so that I'd be looking for a next upgrade anyway?

FM2 and AM3+ and sadly all AMD cpu's will not perform as well as an i5 in gaming, there's no way of getting around that because most games dont use all 8 cores that AMD offers if they did then the FX series would be an excellent choice for gaming as seen in BF4 a fx 8 core beast an i5 and comes close to an i7 for hundreds of dollars less

But currently intel is crushing AMD so if you want to upgrade your CPU to stop stuttering then get an i5 4460 with an ASUS h81m lga 1150 Motherboard.
In my opinion generally upgrading CPU is better that way when you get a better GPU you dont bottlneck...But that gtx 750 with 1gb of Vram is begging for you to end its life.
Whats your budget for an upgrade?

I have a fx 8350 in my spare machine and it plays all the modern games fine and will for some time, but if I was you I would wait a month and save the extra 50 dollars and go for the i5, otherwise your going to be in the same position as you are now with an old machine.

The other option would be buy a new gpu now and put it in the machine you have and wait for the summer amd are releasing new CPU's so there will be more choice and it might push the Intel prices down a bit, plus you will already have the gpu.

 

[ohiou_grad_2006]

This last option makes the most sense imo. Get a decent cpu cooler, something like a hyper 212 evo, or other guys like cyorig coolers. Grab something like that, overclock your cpu which will help, and pick up the best gpu you can afford. FX cpus aren't bad necessarily, but they are a dead platform at this point effectively.

AMD is supposed to release their zen cpus by the end of the year. Overclock your current cpu after adding a cooler and get a better gpu. That will give you a boost in gaming. Between now and when zen comes out, save some cash, then if you want a zen cpu/board, keep the card you buy now and upgrade. If you don't like what they are offering, then at that time pick up an Intel cpu/board. Either way you get a gaming boost now and s way to upgrade the rest of the platform later.

 

[kn1012]

great. sounds like a plan-- gonna just go for a new GPU then for now.

does overclocking really make a difference? i mean.. i'm sure it does. but i've read of successful overclocks of my athlon ii x4 (760) up to 4.2 GHz from 2.8. worth it ie see improved game performance?

does the CPU affect performance really, after a certain point? or does the gpu carry most of the weight?

 

[ohiou_grad_2006]

It's really a balancing act. Problem with low end cpus and higher end video cards, you get what they call bottlenecks. In other words the video card is pushing frames out to fast for the cpu to keep up. So overclocking the cpu to faster than it's stock speed helps to alleviate that. I would say if you could get 4-4.2ghz that would help it.

Like myself I've for the fx 6300, it comes at stock 3.5ghz. I've overclocked to 4.3ghz which helps. Do I get the best performance as opposed to Intel? Probably in the neighborhood of an i3 to lower i5. Does it play all my games and do everything I want? Sure does. Should hold be til the end of the year or early next year when I can do a motherboard, cpu and ram upgrade.

 

[Sumo999]

Just try without overclocing if it works cool if not over clock