Israel

[musical marv]

Do you think we should stop helping Israel financially every year? How come no responses I ask about this country?

 

[MU_Engineer]

Do you think we should stop helping Israel financially every year? How come no responses I ask about this country?

I do not think we should stop giving Israel aid. They are a stable country who is a big ally of ours in a region which is very unstable and overall very hostile to the U.S. and its interests. They are quite valuable for that reason and worth our continued support. The other country we should be having a large presence in is Mexico, because they are a failed state immediately bordering the U.S. The discord in Mexico is obviously affecting us and spilling up into our country. As far as I can tell we do little with Mexico. Most of the rest of the countries we give aid to can either go take care of themselves (Europe) or can go pound sand (the Middle Eastern and African warlords/dictators.)

 

[musical marv]

I do not think we should stop giving Israel aid. They are a stable country who is a big ally of ours in a region which is very unstable and overall very hostile to the U.S. and its interests. They are quite valuable for that reason and worth our continued support. The other country we should be having a large presence in is Mexico, because they are a failed state immediately bordering the U.S. The discord in Mexico is obviously affecting us and spilling up into our country. As far as I can tell we do little with Mexico. Most of the rest of the countries we give aid to can either go take care of themselves (Europe) or can go pound sand (the Middle Eastern and African warlords/dictators.)

This is a bottom less pit giving billions of dollars to Israel every year. They are do dependent on us it is pathetic and they are getting to aggressive all the time.To much already I say. mexico is a different story indeed .

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Whether you want to believe everything you hear from the MSM or not, and whether the MSM ignores certain stories or not, Israel is a very strategic entity for us and our foreign interests.
We also give alot of monies to other countries as well, some having next to no strategic interest, but each country needs to have its own thought out scenario, regarding humanitarian aid to pure strategic interests, such as Iraq during Husseins reign, which was mainly a counter balance away from Israel, and one against Iran at the time.

 

[wanamingo]

Israel will still get money asnd support from the US as long as thy represent our interests. They really are the stabilizing force in the middle east.

My concern is that we let the Israelis do whatever they want to the Palestinians just because we need them because of their strategic location.

They certainly do take their security seriously.

As when Israeli aircraft hit a munitions stockpile in Sudan in October 2012, apparently of Iranian weapons destined for Hamas in Gaza, Israel has again opted for ambiguity. It has banned military correspondents from saying whether it carried out the attack and has refrained from triumphalism, perhaps with the intention of calming the reactions of its foes. Unofficial reports from inside Israel say the raid occurred just inside the border with Syria, at the village of Nabi Chit, near the bigger Syrian town of Zabadani. The target was said to be a convoy of lorries carrying advanced surface-to-air missiles, which Israeli security people have described as “game-changing”. Syria’s state media have also accused Israel of bombing a “scientific research centre” near Damascus, which Western diplomats say had previously been blacklisted for seeking to produce weapons of mass destruction.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/pomegranate/2013/01/israel-v-syria

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Imagine mingo if NY had weapons going to NH to attack you, wouldnt you try to stop it?

 

[wanamingo]

Imagine mingo if NY had weapons going to NH to attack you, wouldnt you try to stop it?

Of course taking reasonable steps to protect yourself is fine.

But after defending yourself maybe moving your people into NYC block by block and forcefully removing the people who had been living there might not be the best way to make friends.

 

[riser]

I would continue support for Israel. You can only be as civil as the least civil person in the room.

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Currently, no one sides with Syria, save for Iran.
Currently, very few to no one sides with Iran, guess they were made for each other.

Now, if this turns out to somehow be Israels fault for trying to defend themselves, guess what?
I just wont get it.
Escalations unfortunately may happen, but, as Ive always said to my somewhat pacisfist friends, if they keep hitting you in the face, at some point, you will hit back

 

[musical marv]

I think we should stand with Israel. They are the only real friends we have in the region. Strategic interest demand it.

There are those that may want to change reality, but strategy is what it is. Unless we all want to convert to Islam now and bow to King abdullah like our glorious leader did.

I won't not trust Benjamin N is a war hawk and could turn his back on us anytime.Again they never ever will give Palestine a chance to have their own state. This stinks in my opinion.

 

[riser]

I would like to believe if the people of Palestine stopped using violence, agreed to mutual terms, and both sides stopped with the hatred, a state could be created within a few years to a decade. While that is being formed, both sides would need to show their commitment to helping each other, reducing and elminating the violence, and overall resolving the issue.

If those could be the high level terms, I think a solution would be possible. Except I doubt that would ever stand before the violence kicked in.

 

[johnsonma]

We will always have to support Israel. Their intelligence network in the middle east is crucial to our efforts there.

 

[musical marv]

The Israelis sort of have this prerequisite to living next to them. You are not allowed to kill them if you want to live in the house next door.

Kind of understandable if you really think about it.

Once the Palestinians can accept this, maybe there will be progress.

In all reality there will never be peace in the middle east account of there is no real co operation between these two states.Benjamin N again i say is a war hawk!

 

[musical marv]

Not true at all. Jews, Christians, and Muslims serve in the Knesset representing their people. They do work together on a daily basis to ensure security, make sure there is enough fresh water for people, etc. etc. etc.

This conflict is caused by a very small percentage of the population as far as the Palestinians are concerned. Most are innocent and the radical emtremists take advantage of their innocence.

Where are the extremist radicals getting their funding from? Iran? Saudi Arabia? CIA? MOSSAD? Aliens? People need to wake up, seriously.

Heh, i just watched the first season of the Game of Thrones. Watch that and you sort of feel like Eddard Stark with the world spinning around him.

How can this be stopped than may i ask you? The CIA really?

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

For almost 2000 years there was no Israel, only a remnant of oppressed peoples, then it came about, after WWII, and the world hasnt seen peace there since.
They are like us the Israelis, didnt care for other countries politics and religions, often left with what was left, because we also didnt go along.
Its no wonder they also have a democracy like us, letting in the Christians and the Moslems into their politics, as they dont want others voices not to be heard, as do we

 

[musical marv]

Short answer. It can't be stopped. What has been set in motion can not be reversed. We are in for bumpy ride over the next 10 years and into the foreseeable future.

This is pretty sad news you just implied to me.We are heading no where I see.