Build Advice It's finally time for a new video editing build

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Hey all, 10 years down the line and thinking it's about time for an upgrade (out of necessity as slowdowns/more 4K multicam jobs etc and funds now available) - so, previous system which has lasted the 10 years (save for some additional drives and upgrading from a GTX970 to a 3070 couple of years back) was:
Asus Z97 Pro
Noctua NHD15
i7-4790K stock
32Gb DDR2 RAM (4x16)
Seasonic FocusPlus 800W

That has run amazingly; hasn't missed a beat and is on pretty much 24/7 (behind a decent UPS mind too). manages 4K video editing OK (Premiere/AFX/Photoshop) and some gaming (mainly some warfare sims/BG3 at mo which run OK)

So now finally time to upgrade and whilst it looks like a bad time for intel I'd prefer to stick with Intel (H264/5 editing qsync etc) and ASUS (jus this board has been awesome, the RAID and UEFI setup is decent as is Fanxpert etc) and SEASONIC (from reliability experience with this one). Also will keep the Noctua NHD15 coz thats been awesome too.

I did look at a coupl;e of ASRock options but the UEFI/RAID set up doesn't seems as nice and am just used to ASUS having been happy with the reliability of this board as it is.

I was going with ProArt Z790 but now they seem damn hard to find all of a sudden (Australia) - pairing with i9/12900K just coz of the issues with 13/14.
BUT Now thinking ASUS ROG Z890 with Ultra 7 265K (cheaper than ProArt with similar options)

128Gb Kingston Fury DDR5 coz that seems easily compatible with 4 sticks 32
New Seasonic Prime TX850

I'm stuck on the SATA issue coz I use all 6 ports (4 drives plus 8TB RAID0 store) plus an M2 now. Both the Z890 only have 4 SATA (but heaps of M2) so myabe I just need to stop being a dinosaur and get more M2 :)

Would appreciate some thoughts/discussion around Z790/Z890 as have been chewing over and reading for a few weeks now and haven't really settled.

PS All going into the original Corsair Air 540 coz it's a nice spacious case and I'll put a new USBC something in the front to tie to the mobo headers.

Much thanks in advance for any thoughts.

EDIT based on @Lutfij thanks man.The seasonic PSU is original build, 10years old.
Budget approx $2500-$3000 AUD
Location Australia. Prefer local stores (e.g Mwave/Scorptec etc) rather than just online. Not amazon.
usage mainly video edit/fx/3d renders with some gaming
 
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Just an FYI, Asus is no longer the brand it used to be until the pandemic happened and everything in their product portfolio has been...sub par, save for some innovations.

4 sticks of ram will add undue stress on the Integrated Memory Controller(IMC) and could lead to instability issues if you go with high frequency ram kits. The sweet spot for Intel's 12th Gen onwards with DDR5 was/is 6000MHz or slightly higher in 2x ram kit config. If you want to go with higher capacity sticks of ram, use the memory QVL or drop down the frequency, like DDR5-5600MHz.

You might want to use this form;
https://noctua.at/en/intel-lga1700-mounting-kit-order-form
to get a mounting kit for your cooler.

Seasonic FocusPlus 800W
How old is the PSU?

With the advent of NVME SSD's you don't need to have a RAID0 setup. RAID1, perhaps but RAID0 would've been a must a decade ago.

You would need to mention your budget, your preferred site for purchase and your location. Essentially everything asked of in this thread;
and the community can chime in with worthwhile suggestions.
 
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Thanks man. Have edited based on your guide, much appreciated.

PSU is the original, so 10years old.
The RAID0 is a price thing - 2 x 2TB Barracuda much cheaper than a 4TB nvme. That said, I'm probably just hanging onto the 2xHDD RAID as a legacy thought rather than a practical one (aside cost).

Sad to hear that about Asus, but yea, that's what seems to be the consensus. Hate to turn my back on the last 10 years of longevity with my Z97 🙁
 
Hey all, 10 years down the line and thinking it's about time for an upgrade (out of necessity as slowdowns/more 4K multicam jobs etc and funds now available) - so, previous system which has lasted the 10 years (save for some additional drives and upgrading from a GTX970 to a 3070 couple of years back) was:
Asus Z97 Pro
Noctua NHD15
i7-4790K stock
32Gb DDR2 RAM (4x16)
Seasonic FocusPlus 800W

That has run amazingly; hasn't missed a beat and is on pretty much 24/7 (behind a decent UPS mind too). manages 4K video editing OK (Premiere/AFX/Photoshop) and some gaming (mainly some warfare sims/BG3 at mo which run OK)

So now finally time to upgrade and whilst it looks like a bad time for intel I'd prefer to stick with Intel (H264/5 editing qsync etc) and ASUS (jus this board has been awesome, the RAID and UEFI setup is decent as is Fanxpert etc) and SEASONIC (from reliability experience with this one). Also will keep the Noctua NHD15 coz thats been awesome too.

Did look at a coupl;e of ASrock options but the UEFI/RAID set up doesn't seems as nice and am just used to ASUS having been happy with the reliability of this board as it is.

WAS going with ProArt Z790 but now they seem damn hard to find all of a sudden (Australia) - pairing with i9/12900K just coz of the issues with 13/14.
BUT Now thinking ASUS ROG Z890 with Ultra 7 265K (cheaper than ProArt with similar options)

128Gb Kingston Fury DDR5 coz that seems easily compatible with 4 sticks 32
New Seasonic Prime TX850

Stuck on the SATA issue coz I use all 6 ports (4 drives plus 8TB RAID0 store) plus an M2 now. Both the Z890 only have 4 SATA (but heaps of M2) so myabe I just need to stop being a dinosaur and get more M2 :)

Would appreciate some thoughts/discussion around Z790/Z890 as have been chewing over and reading for a few weeks now and haven't really settled.

PS All going into the original Corsair Air 540 coz it's a nice spacious case and I'll put a new USBC something in the front to tie to the mobo headers.

Much thanks in advance for any thoughts.

EDIT based on @Lutfij thanks man.The seasonic PSU is original build, 10years old.
Budget approx $2500-$3000 AUD
Location Australia. Prefer local stores (e.g Mwave/Scorptec etc) rather than just online. Not amazon.
usage mainly video edit/fx/3d renders with some gaming
B860 boards if you're looking to cut cost.
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#f=2&mt=ddr5&c=171
 
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PSU is the original, so 10years old.
Definitely time for a new PSU.

Sad to hear that about Asus,
Perhaps I've been lucky but both my AMD video/photo editing rigs (3800X 2019, 7950X 2022) are still running fine on Asus boards.

I'm stuck on the SATA issue coz I use all 6 ports (4 drives plus 8TB RAID0 store) plus an M2 now. Both the Z890 only have 4 SATA (but heaps of M2) so myabe I just need to stop being a dinosaur and get more M2
When I need more SATA ports, I buy a cheap second-hand LSI SAS HBA controller card on eBay. Good for 4, 8, 12, 16 or 20 SATA drives, depending on model. You'll need a spare PCIe x8 slot, but I run my cards in a PCIe x16 length slot but with only 4-lanes. The card below supports 8 drives via two SFF-8087 ports. These cards are designed for servers with good cooling, so I add a 40mm fan to the heatsink.

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https://forums.servethehome.com/ind...and-hba-complete-listing-plus-oem-models.599/

Serial Attached SCSI (SAS) cards are equally happy running SATA hard disks. Get a Host Bus Adapter card flashed with IT (Initiator Target) firmware if you want to run independent drives. Only buy an HBA with IR (RAID) firmware if you need a hardware RAID controller. You'll also need some SFF-8087 to 4 x SATA "Forward Breakout" cables. You're probably looking at AU $40 to $50 for a used SAS HBA card and $15 to $20 for each 4-drive cable set. I prefer used genuine LSI server "pulls" to brand new Chinese clones.

I'm running three 1TB M.2 NVMe drives:-
1). Windows 10 + Adobe software
2). Adobe Premiere/Photoshop Scratch files
3). Video Work-in-Progress files

Bulk storage in my 7950X rig is 5 x hard disks + BD-R drive (my Asus mobo has 6 x SATA and 3 x M.2). Backup to TrueNAS Core RAID-Z2 servers and LTO tape. No RAID in the editing rigs.

Also will keep the Noctua NHD15
I've got an NH-D15 on my 7950X and I've not seen the CPU dissipate more than 180W (no PBO). You might have more "fun" air cooling a 14900K at up to 230W?

128Gb Kingston Fury DDR5 coz that seems easily compatible with 4 sticks 32
Take care as @Lutfij says with 4 DIMMs. You may have to run at stock JEDEC 4800MT/s or even lower for stability with 4 DIMMs. I'm running two 32GB Kingston Fury (64GB total) at 4800MT/s on my 7950X for stability. For goodness sake buy a single kit of 4 matched DIMMs and not two mismatched kits of 2 DIMMs. Even if two kits have exactly the same part number, the memory chips may be from different bins, with subtly different speed timings. Don't mix kits.

You'll see greater benefit with faster XMP settings on an Intel CPU than I do on AMD in Premiere Pro.
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/a...-on-content-creation-performance-2023-update/

DDR5_Speed_PR.png


Although neither of us live in the USA, it's worth checking the Puget Systems workstation builds for ideas:
https://www.pugetsystems.com/solutions/video-editing-workstations/adobe-premiere-pro/

You'll benefit from the fastest NVidia GPU you can afford for 4K video renders. I upgraded recently from an RTX 3060 12GB to an RTX 4070 12GB, but an RTX 4090/5090 would be faster.

Premiere-Pro-Benchmark-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-40-Series-vs-30-Series-vs-AMD-Radeon-RX-Overall-Score.png
 
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Thanks for all the detailed info there mate, much appreciated.
Ye def going 4 stick pack with the RAM. I've been sitting here with DDR3 1300 for years and working fine so honestly going to DDR5 4800 will be a massive jump anyhoo. Kind of thinking that abou tthe chip to be honest. Going from my 4950 even to a 12 let alone 13/14 with their issues will be a blast I'm sure !
Your drive set up similar to mine (save for you have significantly more bulk storage) - realised I have a PCIe SATA card for my DVD burner, so yea that's probbaly a cheaper option than finding a mobo with 6-8 SATA rather than 4 + lots M2.
Good to hear your ASUS are still going well...it's a tough one to be sure


Definitely time for a new PSU.


Perhaps I've been lucky but both my AMD video/photo editing rigs (3800X 2019, 7950X 2022) are still running fine on Asus boards.