I've collected a list of parts and would like a final check before pulling the trigger.

benny.d.121

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Hello, following are the details of my build.


Approximate Purchase Date: e.g.: This week/weekend

Budget Range: Under $2K CAD

System Usage from Most to Least Important: 3D modelling - Inventor, Gaming - arma / GTA V / Battlegrounds, watching movies, browsing the internet.

Are you buying a monitor: No, later.

Parts to Upgrade: All

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: May just buy in person at memory express

Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada

Parts Preferences: None

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: No

Your Monitor Resolution: Eventually 1440x900

Additional Comments: A Wireless internet card recommendation would be appreciated as well.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Hard drive took a poo on the 2011 macbook pro, time to move back to PC.

Following is my most recent parts list.

PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/rgFdZ8
Price breakdown by merchant: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/rgFdZ8/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($373.95 @ shopRBC)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.75 @ Vuugo)

Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard ($107.00 @ Vuugo)

Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($194.99 @ Newegg Canada)

Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ Newegg Canada)

Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Memory Express)

Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Superclocked Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card ($713.50 @ Vuugo)

Case: Fractal Design - Define R5 (Titanium) ATX Mid Tower Case ($120.81 @ DirectCanada)

Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($120.35 @ DirectCanada)

Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($114.50 @ Vuugo)

Case Fan: Fractal Design - SSR3-140-WT 56.1 CFM 140mm Fan ($9.63 @ DirectCanada) X3

Other: RYZEN AM4 X BRACKET FOR HYPER 212 AND 212X, MASTERAIR PRO 3 & 4 ($0.00)

Total: $1963.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-20 22:07 EDT-0400


Thanks in advance for the help everyone!

- Ben D.
 
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People have gotten 4ghz out of the 1700, but remember not all CPUs are the same, Thats why its a 1700 and not a 1700X or 1800X.

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I might bump the cooler up to a Cryorig H7. 'Tis a bit better than the 212. http://www.cryorig.com/news.php?id=67 shows how to get the bracket. Enough to change right before pulling the trigger? No but it's what I'd choose.

The case only has 2 fans included which should be just fine. Leaves room for upgrades should you need it.

The 1080 will easily handle that resolution for years to come. Higher refresh rate?

It'll be a beautiful rig.
 

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Don't buy a cooler at all. The Ryzen 7 1700 comes with a cooler thats better than the 212 EVO, looks cool, and is quiet. It works great, and especially that you're using a B350 board so you won't be overclocking the heck out of it.

Otherwise pretty good.
 

benny.d.121

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Thanks for the input!

After looking at a few reviews, I think I will go with the Cryorig H7.

A friend suggested I add a fan to the other side of the 212x, should I be okay to overclock on the Cryorig with the stock fan?

What do you mean about higher refresh rate?

Thanks again for the help!
 

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The Cryorig is more efficient than the 212. But again I wouldn't even spend the $40 on it, the stock cooler can do it for you that comes in the box. And with a B350 board you are quite limited in your overclocking. Its litrally not worth the $40 unless you really want the tower cooler look. The Cooler that comes with the 1700 lights up Orange with a white AMD logo, it looks awesome and works great even for overclocking. I know because I have overclocked a 1700 on a B350 board with one.
 

benny.d.121

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Could you go into more detail about why I wouldn't be overclocking much on the B350 board? I know a bit about the different levels and that you have more freedom on the X370 but I'd like to (and I believe I've seen people) push 4Ghz out of the 1700. Is this still in the realm of possibility on this Mobo and a stock CPU cooler?
 




I think the PC Mate will be fine for your needs. MSI's PC Mates have been nice and solid boards. Some say only Tomahawk while others will offer some X board or an Asus Crosshair 6. Everyone has their opinions and I have mine. Consider http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3498657/stable-ryzen-1700-standard-cooler.html. The board isn't high end. It's a middle of the road AM4 motherboard solution that has the passive heatsinks and access to power necessary for healthy OC's. I don't see 4.0GHz as unreasonable. Obviously there aren't guarantees with OC's.

Higher refresh rate? I have a 1080p 60 Hz monitor. In short it refreshes it's screen 60 times per second. When there is a LOT going on on your screen such as a high speed race, a football game, fast paced gaming or other fast moving media a higher refresh rate allows for a clearer image. While the resolution is very important the refresh rate can be very important. The same way an IPS panel might be better for Autodesk because they usually handle color better the refresh rate needs to be considered so that that will fit your needs as well.
 

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People have gotten 4ghz out of the 1700, but remember not all CPUs are the same, Thats why its a 1700 and not a 1700X or 1800X.

To get a good OC like that you need better power delivery and some more tweaking options. The board you are getting is a workstation oriented board, and B350 boards in general lose some overclock options you may need to get to 4ghz, aside from not having the power delivery of an X370 board. I'm not saying it won't happen but you should tamper your expectations.

Its a good quality board, but theres a reason they make X370 boards too. Also you don't need to go spend $300 on one, MSI and ASRock both offer X370 boards for about $10 more than the one you are buying.
 
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