Jaguar CPU equivalent?

[songorocosongo]

Since there's a lot of hype about the PS4 using an AMD 8-core Jaguar CPU I've been wondering what would be an equivalent processor on the market now in terms of gaming and general performance?

 

[corbeau]

The closest available right now is the fx8350 (but I think a quad core Jaguar should be coming out as an APU soon).

 

[songorocosongo]

The closest available right now is the fx8350 (but I think a quad core Jaguar should be coming out as an APU soon).

But I read it was only 1.6GHz

 

[corbeau]

I suppose your right, so maybe an 8120 would be closer (as it would be weaker), but there really isn't a low powered 8 core on the market right now.

 

[Sakkura]

The closest available right now is the fx8350 (but I think a quad core Jaguar should be coming out as an APU soon).

But I read it was only 1.6GHz

Mhm. It has 8 cores, but those cores are slower than those of an FX-8350. It's more of an amplified version of AMD's low-power APUs for netbooks and tablets. So it's comparable to four E2-1800s glued together. And nobody knows how that would perform (except AMD).

 

[jaslion]

it would be about the same as the a10 5800k its cpu power because jaguar is just an apu

 

[Sakkura]

it would be about the same as the a10 5800k its cpu power because jaguar is just an apu

A very different type of APU though, with potentially completely different performance.

 

[Traciatim]

A very different type of APU though, with potentially completely different performance.

True, but if you look at the E2-3000 and glue 4 of them together and add a little bit extra for process improvements you would score very similarly in Passmark's CPU test to an A10-6800k . . . so depending on how you test it it will probably sit pretty close to that. Both the PS4 and XBone are pretty much just a gaming laptop with no LCD attached and a fairly decent 1080p video card installed.

Arguably and A10 with a a 7870 would be a better buy since the machine is much more versatile, but you'd lose the 'set it and forget it' style of being able to buy a game and just play it out of the box . . . there is a lot to be said for not having to read specs and tweak settings for hours to get your games to run well. It's not all about hardware

 

[8350rocks]

Depending on the XBone or the PS4, PS4 CPU is expected to have a clockspeed of 2.0 GHz or perhaps a bit more...(have seen speculation based on ES's that it may be as high as 2.4-2.6 GHz. The XBone is anticipated to be between 1.6-2.0 GHz.

 

[Sakkura]

A very different type of APU though, with potentially completely different performance.

True, but if you look at the E2-3000 and glue 4 of them together and add a little bit extra for process improvements you would score very similarly in Passmark's CPU test to an A10-6800k . . . so depending on how you test it it will probably sit pretty close to that. Both the PS4 and XBone are pretty much just a gaming laptop with no LCD attached and a fairly decent 1080p video card installed.

Arguably and A10 with a a 7870 would be a better buy since the machine is much more versatile, but you'd lose the 'set it and forget it' style of being able to buy a game and just play it out of the box . . . there is a lot to be said for not having to read specs and tweak settings for hours to get your games to run well. It's not all about hardware

The E2-3000 is Llano, so it uses the K10 CPU architecture. That is way better than the Bobcat cores in the E2-1800. The point is there's a HUGE divide between traditional high-power CPU architectures like Vishera, Haswell, K10 etc. and low-power architectures like Bonnell (Intel Atom), Bobcat, and now Jaguar. Apart from the instruction set, the latter have more in common with ARM CPUs in tablets and such.

 

[jaguarskx]

Considering that Jaguar is a refresh of the Bobcat architecture, the CPU is far less powerful than the FX series (Bulldozer, Piledriver). Compared to a similarly clocked Richland APU, Jaguar is likely to be less powerful in terms of CPU processing power since outside of consoles, AMD intends to use quad core Jaguars in netbooks and dual core Jaguars in tablets. AMD claims a 15% increase in IPC vs the older Bobcat architecture.

The best thing about Jaguar is the fact that they are being manufactured by TSMC rather than GF (Global Foundries). TSMC has a mature 28nm manufacturing process while GF is notorious for having issues producing low yield reliable chips.

Naturally, Jaguar CPUs used in netbooks and tablets will be less powerful than the version used consoles since the consoles will have semi-custom designed Jaguar CPUs.