Joining the Ryzen world soon! need help

Ttesar06

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Im finally about to abandon my old i5 2500k its served me well for long enough.

i was looking at the i5 8400 but when i saw the ryzen 5 2600 prices were actually exactly teh same and it seems performance is better is that the better option here?

ALso is $50 worth the upgrade to the 2600x? im not sureif i plan to OC but ive read the 2600x comes with a better cooler and its RGB at that so i wouldnt need to buy an aftermarket cooler saving that $50 easily.

Also need help picking out a motherboard. i dont know the differences between them and not sure if it matters or not for what i do.

I like to game at 1080p max settings 75 FPS with an RX 580 8gb gpu.
Mostly Destiny 2, Ghost recon Wildlands, Pubg, Assassins Creed Odyssey, WoW, and coming up the Division 2. others as well but those are the mainstream ones.
 
For gamin performance are both in the same leage depending on the game how performance is. The upside of the 2600 is that it can be overclocked so this mostly closes the gap. The Ryzen has also more threads so if that's starting to come usefull for you (or in games) it has an advantage as well. Trying to say that the Ryzen 2600 is a good option for you.

The Ryzen 2600X does come with a better stock cooler,but it's not rgb (that's the 2700X) and for some overclocking would you probably be better of with an aftermarket cooler anyway. I would invest the extra $50 in that cooler for the Ryzen 2600.

For motherboard if really into heavy overclocking maybe a X470 motherboard ,but in most cases is a B450 enough. When looking at the pcpartpicker would i pick this,
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TWzkcf/gigabyte-x470-aorus-ultra-gaming-atx-am4-motherboard-x470-aorus-ultra-gaming
seems a good price right now for this motherboard. Very nice features on it like two M.2 slots,good audiochip etc.
Cheaper m-atx,
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WcjJ7P/gigabyte-b450-aorus-m-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-aorus-m
just coincidence that they both are Gigabyte.
For another brand,will be more expensive and still B450 but good motherboard,
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XQgzK8/asus-rog-strix-b450-f-gaming-atx-am4-motherboard-strix-b450-f-gaming

Some options for that cooler going up in price,
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/TsL7YJ,ffKhP6,yHNv6h,HyTPxr/
the Arctic can be chosen with different color of fans,you'll need to look at the pcpartpicker for that. Also look at what your case can handle when it comes to the height of a cpu cooler.
 

Ttesar06

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I live in the US.

And my budget at this point is mostly un defined. I guess it depends on the kind of deal I get and if I can sell my current components and I’m not sure how much I can sell them for either.
(I5 2500k, coolermaster 212 evo, asus p8z68-v gen/3, 16 go Corsair vengeance ddr3 @1600mhz)

I guess I was looking to spend 300-350 for a motherboard and processor. More/ less depending on deals and I don’t need anything crazy overkill either.
 
Think he wants to replace what he shows there.

(I5 2500k, coolermaster 212 evo, asus p8z68-v gen/3, 16 go Corsair vengeance ddr3 @1600mhz)
Think because of the 16gb ram in the old build you might look at something like $200 to eventually get? Might want to start higher to get there. Not USA so might be even too high,maybe even too low,but the ram is a pretty good amount. Look at Ebay and such to see what prices do. If you start too high will people look at new as well like a Ryzen 2200g system or i3 8100 system.

For basics could you look at this,

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $384.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-29 10:25 EST-0500

Depends on what you want to spend on a cpu cooler what to add to that. Think the Black EVO would look nice and perform good enough on the 2600.
If you like RGB ram is this a decent kit,
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MYs8TW/team-night-hawk-rgb-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-tf1d416g3200hc16cdc01
 

Ttesar06

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Yes, I was looking at up to 350 for motherboard processor and cooler. Ram I wasn’t figuring in there already plan to spend about 150 on ram
 
The main components you asked for + PSU since i assume your current one is back from when you bought the old i5
Also added an optional high speed SSD since your old one is pretty small and likely not as fast.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H60 (2018) 57.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard ($119.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($109.99 @ Newegg Business)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($127.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ B&H)
Total: $622.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-29 11:43 EST-0500
 
Personally, I'd only consider an X470 MB if it has a particular feature not available on less expensive ' B ' chipset MBs because overclocking Ryzen is a largely wasted effort, you're better off getting a really good cooler and letting the Boost system do its stuff rather than messing around for a few hundred MHz-in my opinion as a R7 2700X user anyway. ;)

The 2600X has a better cooler, with some extra bling and i's a little faster than the non ' X ' CPU, your call.

Ryzen NEEDS fast memory, DDR4 3000 should be a minimum starting point but check the memory you purchase will be compatible with the motherboard, not all the compatibility gremlins have been worked out yet and while Ryzen systems are no where near as picky about memory as they were on launch, they're still not as forgiving as Intel based setups.

All the games listed tend do better with an Intel CPU, and Intel still has a advantage at 1080 resolution, so while I agree the Ryzen route will be the best bang-per-dollar, it won't give absolute best performance.
With that said I'll risk the anger of the community and post this as an Intel alternative:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($244.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-U12S 55 CFM CPU Cooler ($57.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z390 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($128.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: GeIL - EVO SPEAR 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($105.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $537.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-29 13:31 EST-0500
 

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