K8N Neo2 Platnium - WinXP crashes when UDMA is enabled in ..

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Hi. Any insight is appreciated. This is a bizarre one.

I will list the items I've tried to save time in anyone's replies.


System is:

-K8N Neo2 Platnium
-AMD Athlon 64 3200+
-MSI Ti4200 AGP Card
-2x512MB PC3200 DDR400

-2 Hard Drives on Primary IDE (10GB C - 82GB D)
-2 DVD Drives on Secondary


When UDMA is enabled in the BIOS, the system would not boot... it
would reboot before Windows loaded.

I was using 80-pin cables that worked before the upgrade.

Switched to another more expensive 80-pin cable... Windows now boots,
but system will randomly reboot, specifically when CD/DVD burning or
accessing the slave hard drive.

Here are the other details:

- Any BIOS combination of UDMA enabled/disabled randomly crashes
system.

- System runs perfect when UDMA totally disabled on both channels.
(ie: CD burning flawless with UDMA disabled).

- Tried 3 sets of IDE cables, same problem
- Tried XP stock IDE drivers and Nvidia IDE drivers... same problem

- Removed devices and drivers from Control Panel and rebooted for them
to automatically reinstall... same problem.

- This IDE configuration worked fine on previous motherboard/CPU
(before upgrade).

- Jumpers on all devices are properly set for appropriate
slave/master, etc.

- I'm not overclocking CPU, video, RAM or motherboard

- System still crashes if I unplug DVD drives.

Anyone experience this? Anyone have some thoughts?

Thanks.
 
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fyamfasmdt@yahoo.com (Goo) wrote in
news:817bc637.0502011525.5879ffad@posting.google.com:

> System is:
>
> -K8N Neo2 Platnium
> -AMD Athlon 64 3200+
> -MSI Ti4200 AGP Card
> -2x512MB PC3200 DDR400
>
> -2 Hard Drives on Primary IDE (10GB C - 82GB D)
> -2 DVD Drives on Secondary
>
>
> When UDMA is enabled in the BIOS, the system would not boot... it
> would reboot before Windows loaded.
>
> I was using 80-pin cables that worked before the upgrade.
>
> Switched to another more expensive 80-pin cable... Windows now boots,
> but system will randomly reboot, specifically when CD/DVD burning or
> accessing the slave hard drive.

[snip]

> Anyone experience this? Anyone have some thoughts?

I had a similar experience when I first setup my Neo2 Platinum. Couldn't
even boot into windows without blue screening and then I noticed that I
was hearing my DVD drive (which had a disk in it) spin up just before
the BSOD. Took out the disk and Windows booted, but any attempt to
access the DVD drive (a relatively old Hitachi GD-5000) resulted in a
BSOD.

The first thing I did was throw in a Promise Ultra card I had lying
around and put my optical drives on that. Everything worked fine. I've
since put the drives back on the secondary IDE, but set the channel with
the DVD drive to PIO mode and it's all working fine.

I also tried using the nVidia IDE drivers but that didn't help. Any form
of UDMA on the channel with the Hitachi BSODs (the nVidia drivers give
user control over the UDMA mode). My Lite-On CD burner works fine in
UDMA mode 2.

I wonder if a firmware update can fix this problem or if it's some kind
of hardware issue? For me it isn't a huge issue since I don't really
notice any problems running that drive in PIO mode and if I do I have a
firewire DVD drive I can use, but it would be nice to see it fixed.
 
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Mitch Crane wrote:

> I had a similar experience when I first setup my Neo2 Platinum.
Couldn't
> even boot into windows without blue screening and then I noticed that
I
> was hearing my DVD drive (which had a disk in it) spin up just before

> the BSOD. Took out the disk and Windows booted, but any attempt to
> access the DVD drive (a relatively old Hitachi GD-5000) resulted in a

> BSOD.

- snip -

> I wonder if a firmware update can fix this problem or if it's some
kind
> of hardware issue? For me it isn't a huge issue since I don't really
> notice any problems running that drive in PIO mode and if I do I have
a
> firewire DVD drive I can use, but it would be nice to see it fixed.

I've had booting difficulties as well, but not in the same sense - the
system wouldn't recognize the drive as bootable, it'd just blow on past
and insist on having a valid hd partition. Didn't think of changing the
mode, though. I'm on the latest BIOS from last November (1.4, I think)
- UDMA *seems* ok.

Current problem is that the system seems to be eating CD/DVD players.
They last a few months and then fail. It's gone through a Yamaha of
some sort, and now a Pioneer DVR108. I experienced the last failure
first-hand, while using the computer; it just stopped being able to
read data. XP still recognizes the drive & claims it's ok, but won't
read any of a wide variety of CDs/DVDs that I throw in it. Very odd.

Any suggestions from anyone?
 
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spoilsportmotors@gmail.com wrote in news:1107535208.999722.272720
@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:

> Current problem is that the system seems to be eating CD/DVD players.
> They last a few months and then fail. It's gone through a Yamaha of
> some sort, and now a Pioneer DVR108. I experienced the last failure
> first-hand, while using the computer; it just stopped being able to
> read data. XP still recognizes the drive & claims it's ok, but won't
> read any of a wide variety of CDs/DVDs that I throw in it. Very odd.
>
> Any suggestions from anyone?

I doubt that the motherboard has anything to do with it.