KB891711

Guest · Mar 14, 2005

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I didn't go into any detail because I was under the assumption you knew all
the correct procedures.
--
mae

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
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| Right, it was a good catch on Terhune's part. I'm looking inside the
| .inf & do not see that it would remove anything from Runservices-, but
| only from...
|-snip|

Guest · Mar 14, 2005

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"Galen" <galennews@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OG0j9hDKFHA.1340@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| In news:OW4cAO2JFHA.580@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl,
| PCR <pcrrcp@netzero.net> had this to say:
|
| My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:
|
| > I'm thinking some users have more severe problems with KB891711.EXE,
| > if their machines go straight for the NET at boot.
|
| Except some are on dialup...

Do you know of anyone not on dial-up that has the problem?

|
| We have enough minds working on this now so we'll hopefully get to the
| bottom of this eventually. Has anyone tried to re-install it with all
their
| goodies disabled after uninstalling it?

KB891711.exe doesn't muss my IE before I've connected. I can work out of
TIFs before that. I guess something in the Startup Group could be
wanting to get more active after I've connected, though.

|
| Galen
| --
| Signature changed for a moment of silence.
| Rest well Alex and we'll see you on the other side.

--
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should things get worse after this,
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|
|

Guest · Mar 14, 2005

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Just providing a trouble shooter since those applications can cause
corrupted installs if running. And I remember you said you got a slew of
McAfee Anti Virus updates recently; but if you have it disabled when
installing would be immaterial.
I wonder what the conflict is when you are connected. (?)
"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
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---snip----|
| mae... I've never had to do all that before. McAfee has never
| interfered, either. There was no error accessing Windows Update, (until
| afterwards). All went quick & well, with the little thing coming in in
| under a minute. EVEN IE works offline, getting sites from my TIFs. It's
| only after I connect to the NET with NetZero, I get that orderly BSOD
| every time I try to click an URL or IE. HOWEVER, I suppose I could try
| all of that, pending I don't see an MVP or even a rare MS personage pop
| in with some kind of admission of guilt & apology!
|
--snip-----

Guest · Mar 14, 2005

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Posted on Windows Update site > one was solved by uninstalling Zone Alarm,
reinstalling the patches, then installing Zone Alarm. Another updated their
Zone Alarm. And FYI:
I installed on 98 and 98se and have not been presented with any problem to
date. I tested different schemes with all the animation. I have a firewall
only activated when I connect via dial-up. My antivirus runs at startup,
fulltime background, always disabled for installs. I use no third party web
enhancers.
I show it as 16 bit, running under MPREXE, has one thread, 4 - 12kb in use
(per Wintop). I wonder if something within the MPREXE process has a
conflict.
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mae

"Galen" <galennews@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OG0j9hDKFHA.1340@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| In news:OW4cAO2JFHA.580@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl,
| PCR <pcrrcp@netzero.net> had this to say:
|
| My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:
|
| > I'm thinking some users have more severe problems with KB891711.EXE,
| > if their machines go straight for the NET at boot.
|
| Except some are on dialup...
|
| We have enough minds working on this now so we'll hopefully get to the
| bottom of this eventually. Has anyone tried to re-install it with all
their
| goodies disabled after uninstalling it?
|
| Galen
| --
| Signature changed for a moment of silence.
| Rest well Alex and we'll see you on the other side.
|
|

Guest · Mar 14, 2005

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| Spybot gave me this
| message: "Errr during check! DyFuCA. InternetOptimizer
| (Zugriffsverletzung bei Adresse 005FD6D2 in Modul " which doesn't look
| like English to me

Suddenly, that looks to me like SpyBot crashed during it's scan. I think
you are OK with that.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:OAWNS5HKFHA.3484@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| Well, I guess that's possible. SpyBot should still be saying it,
| otherwise. However, yes, use another tool, & keep us informed. Does it
| show up in...?...
|
| http://www.merijn.org/files/hijackthis.zip HijackThis
| http://aumha.org/a/hjttutor.htm
| Hijack This Logs Tutorial-- MUST read!
| http://hometown.aol.co.uk/jrmc137/hjttutorial/tutorial.htm
| Another one worthy of serious study!
|
| DON'T delete anything using HijackThis until you are sure it's
unwanted.
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
| pcrrcp@netzero.net
| "Elizabeth" <bethvollbach@earthlink.deletethis.net> wrote in message
| news:cek931lsqs95u9m5m8hntbqg6i40mafdf1@4ax.com...
| | After lots of googling and reading other forums (C-NET and Spybot)
and
| | getting further explanations of the error message I got once when I
| | scanned with Spybot, I now don't think I have a virus. It wasn't a
| | coincidence that I got that error message on the same day I had
other
| | trouble with KB891711, though. I think that update was just
screwing
| | things up, that included.
| |
| | But PCcillin tech support did email me with the suggestion that I
scan
| | for spyware using a different tool. It can't hurt, so I do intend to
| | do it.
| |
| | Beth
....snip

Luke · Mar 14, 2005

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On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 05:07:36 -0500, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote:

>"Luke" <luke@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>news:dks9319gcve9dr3k4m0kgca8cr4sfqc5cg@4ax.com...
>| On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:10:00 -0500, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote:
>|
>| >"Luke" <luke@nowhere.com> wrote in message
[snip]

>| >| Msh_zwf.dll Microsoft IntelliPoint Microsoft
>Corporation
>| >4.10.0851.0000
>| >
>| >Msh_zwf.dll Don't have it.
>|
>| Because you don't have the same mouse and drivers I do? I have an MS
>| mouse and MS IntelliPoint 4.10.0851.
>
>I have a Logitech Wheelmouse1 (PS/2).

A wild ignorant guess, could KB891711 problems be mouse related?

>| >| USER32.DLL Win32 USER32 core component Microsoft
>Corporation
>| >4.10.0000.2222
>| >
>| >USER32.DLL v.4.10.2227
>|
>| Ditto answer to "GDI32.DLL" above.
>
>OK, but I still appear to have a higher version. Not sure what gave it
>to me. I am Win98SE.
>
>USER32.DLL
>Desc: Win32 USER32 core component
>Loc: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
>Size: 55,296 bytes
>Mod: Friday, April 21, 2000 08:33:18 AM
>Ver: 4.10.2227

Oops. Missed that. I have 98SE, too, recently updated. [Don't tell
Gary Terhune, ok ;-)?]

USER32.DLL
Size: 69,632 bytes
Mod: Friday, April 23, 1999 10:22:00 PM
Ver: 4.10.2222
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp. 1991-1998

I have no clue what significance there may be in the difference
between our files.

--
Luke

galen · Mar 14, 2005

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In news:%234OexoHKFHA.2212@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl,
PCR <pcrrcp@netzero.net> had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

> I see. Still, that is good to know. When KB891711.exe is fixed, it
> won't be a hog. God, I just installed Process Explorer, and it's
> scary to look at Explorer.exe in there! Don't make me go back in!

Nice application isn't it? It's a handy tool to keep around and the task
manager for 9x isn't that good. It's something I try to keep around and feel
comfortable recommending to people who want to explore their systems a bit
more. Wait until you give something like RegMon a try sometime 😉 That's
when it gets interesting.

Galen
--
Signature changed for a moment of silence.
Rest well Alex and we'll see you on the other side.

Guest · Mar 14, 2005

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RegMon is *totally* cool!

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Galen" <galennews@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23zdjSnMKFHA.3076@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> In news:%234OexoHKFHA.2212@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl,
> PCR <pcrrcp@netzero.net> had this to say:
>
> My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:
>
> > I see. Still, that is good to know. When KB891711.exe is fixed, it
> > won't be a hog. God, I just installed Process Explorer, and it's
> > scary to look at Explorer.exe in there! Don't make me go back in!
>
> Nice application isn't it? It's a handy tool to keep around and the
task
> manager for 9x isn't that good. It's something I try to keep around
and feel
> comfortable recommending to people who want to explore their systems a
bit
> more. Wait until you give something like RegMon a try sometime 😉
That's
> when it gets interesting.
>
> Galen
> --
> Signature changed for a moment of silence.
> Rest well Alex and we'll see you on the other side.
>
>

galen · Mar 14, 2005

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In news:%23TAHGs0JFHA.2748@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl,
Dan <spamyou@user.nec> had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

> PCR, Beth has one or many baddies on her machine. Imo, we need to be
> thankful for that Microsoft released anything at all and we all
> should be grateful that this critical vulnerability has been patched.
> BTW, PCR, I am dealing with a commercial KEYLOGGER on the XPPRO. side
> of my machine that I have been unable to remove even in safe mode. I
> am at wits end and need all the help I can get to fix it and so much
> for so called security of XPPRO in NTFS file system and like I have
> said many times and fully agree with Chris Quirke, MVP is why XPPRO
> is less than 98SE is that it does not have a Maintenance Operating
> System. Hopefully, Microsoft will soon fix this or Linux and
> associated competitors may become the next monopolies in the
> operating system market.

Dan,

Interesting issue, take it to either private email or an XP group -- your
choice -- and we'll see what can be done with it. However, PCR's correct...
Don't sully the 98 group with XP stuffs 😉

Galen
--
Signature changed for a moment of silence.
Rest well Alex and we'll see you on the other side.

galen · Mar 14, 2005

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In news:uKh3o8HKFHA.580@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl,
PCR <pcrrcp@netzero.net> had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

> Do you know of anyone not on dial-up that has the problem?

Beth is on dialup for one. Though the more I look at her posts the more I'm
still incline to think the virus that is/was affecting her is adding to the
complexity and thus can't be sure that the error is entirely KB891711.exe or
the update.

Galen
--
Signature changed for a moment of silence.
Rest well Alex and we'll see you on the other side.

galen · Mar 14, 2005

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In news:uD9VvuMKFHA.2752@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl,
Gary S. Terhune <grystnews@mvps.org> had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

> RegMon is *totally* cool!

It's an old school app that I hold on to including multiple archived
versions just in case the company ever falls off the 'net. When it comes to
debugging insane problems Process Explorer and RegMon take the cake if you
have the time to do a lot of work. That and Startup Control Panel and you
have the majority of tools that I use for cleaning out junkware when there's
nothing readily available to cure it. One of the MAIN reasons for these
tools is they'll all run happily in safe mode and with any flavor of
Windows. Plus they're all free so I can put them on a CD and give the CD to
a client or a friend for them to use should they ask me what tools I used to
do the job(s).

Galen
--
Signature changed for a moment of silence.
Rest well Alex and we'll see you on the other side.

galen · Mar 14, 2005

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In news:Orl%23UqMKFHA.3928@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl,
Galen <galennews@gmail.com> had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

> Beth is on dialup for one. Though the more I look at her posts the
> more I'm still incline to think the virus that is/was affecting her
> is adding to the complexity and thus can't be sure that the error is
> entirely KB891711.exe or the update.
>
> Galen

More accurately that should read (posted in another thread and now see that
it wasn't cross posted as I'd thought the thread was) that I'm on dialup and
have now installed it on an 98 and an ME system and both are dialup. No
problems here but these are just test systems running the minimum additional
software such as a firewall and anti-virus. Firewall is Outpost and AV is
Kaspersky if that's worth anything.

Not a glitch yet. KAV disabled during installation but firewall was up and
running during the whole process on both of them.

Galen
--
Signature changed for a moment of silence.
Rest well Alex and we'll see you on the other side.

Guest · Mar 14, 2005

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Yea, I know I can do all that. I'll answer below, though, elsewhere in
this thread.

--
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There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"mae" <agrannie@notemail.msn.com> wrote in message
news:uiuU3eIKFHA.1392@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| I didn't go into any detail because I was under the assumption you
knew all
| the correct procedures.
| --
| mae
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:O%23CijD1JFHA.2704@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| | Right, it was a good catch on Terhune's part. I'm looking inside the
| | .inf & do not see that it would remove anything from Runservices-,
but
| | only from...
| |-snip|

Guest · Mar 14, 2005

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Yea, nice apps, both. Is ProcExp a CPU hog for you? I can hardly type
when that thing is running!

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Galen" <galennews@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23zdjSnMKFHA.3076@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| In news:%234OexoHKFHA.2212@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl,
| PCR <pcrrcp@netzero.net> had this to say:
|
| My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:
|
| > I see. Still, that is good to know. When KB891711.exe is fixed, it
| > won't be a hog. God, I just installed Process Explorer, and it's
| > scary to look at Explorer.exe in there! Don't make me go back in!
|
| Nice application isn't it? It's a handy tool to keep around and the
task
| manager for 9x isn't that good. It's something I try to keep around
and feel
| comfortable recommending to people who want to explore their systems a
bit
| more. Wait until you give something like RegMon a try sometime 😉
That's
| when it gets interesting.
|
| Galen
| --
| Signature changed for a moment of silence.
| Rest well Alex and we'll see you on the other side.
|
|

Guest · Mar 14, 2005

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"Luke" <luke@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:as3b311opujma3h0pb97mm6thvpuba08vp@4ax.com...
| On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 05:07:36 -0500, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote:
|
| >"Luke" <luke@nowhere.com> wrote in message
| >news:dks9319gcve9dr3k4m0kgca8cr4sfqc5cg@4ax.com...
| >| On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:10:00 -0500, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net>
wrote:
| >|
| >| >"Luke" <luke@nowhere.com> wrote in message
| [snip]
|
| >| >| Msh_zwf.dll Microsoft IntelliPoint Microsoft
| >Corporation
| >| >4.10.0851.0000
| >| >
| >| >Msh_zwf.dll Don't have it.
| >|
| >| Because you don't have the same mouse and drivers I do? I have an
MS
| >| mouse and MS IntelliPoint 4.10.0851.
| >
| >I have a Logitech Wheelmouse1 (PS/2).
|
| A wild ignorant guess, could KB891711 problems be mouse related?

It could be anything. But, KB891711.exe will work for me before I've
connected to the NET. If it's my mouse, it would have to be due to
something extra it does at that time.

|
| >| >| USER32.DLL Win32 USER32 core component Microsoft
| >Corporation
| >| >4.10.0000.2222
| >| >
| >| >USER32.DLL v.4.10.2227
| >|
| >| Ditto answer to "GDI32.DLL" above.
| >
| >OK, but I still appear to have a higher version. Not sure what gave
it
| >to me. I am Win98SE.
| >
| >USER32.DLL
| >Desc: Win32 USER32 core component
| >Loc: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
| >Size: 55,296 bytes
| >Mod: Friday, April 21, 2000 08:33:18 AM
| >Ver: 4.10.2227
|
| Oops. Missed that. I have 98SE, too, recently updated. [Don't tell
| Gary Terhune, ok ;-)?]
|
| USER32.DLL
| Size: 69,632 bytes
| Mod: Friday, April 23, 1999 10:22:00 PM
| Ver: 4.10.2222
| Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp. 1991-1998
|
| I have no clue what significance there may be in the difference
| between our files.

This is a Compaq 7470. But it can't be something they've done, because
it was purchased 1/14/00, three months before the Mod Date on my
USER32.DLL. I don't see where that file is meaningfully mentioned in my
SFClog.txt, BUT I'm sure I've not kept the very early .log entries. You
seem to have one straight out of...
Cabinet WIN98_42.CAB
04-23-1999 10:22:00p A--- 69,632 user32.dll

I have looked inside my IE5 & IE6 .cab's with WinZip, & do not find
USER32.DLL in those.

|
| --
| Luke

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

Luke · Mar 14, 2005

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On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:14:25 -0500, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote:

>"Luke" <luke@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>news:as3b311opujma3h0pb97mm6thvpuba08vp@4ax.com...
>| On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 05:07:36 -0500, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote:
>|
>| >"Luke" <luke@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>| >news:dks9319gcve9dr3k4m0kgca8cr4sfqc5cg@4ax.com...
>| >| On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:10:00 -0500, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net>
>wrote:
>| >|
>| >| >"Luke" <luke@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>| [snip]
>|
>| >| >| Msh_zwf.dll Microsoft IntelliPoint Microsoft
>| >Corporation
>| >| >4.10.0851.0000
>| >| >
>| >| >Msh_zwf.dll Don't have it.
>| >|
>| >| Because you don't have the same mouse and drivers I do? I have an
>MS
>| >| mouse and MS IntelliPoint 4.10.0851.
>| >
>| >I have a Logitech Wheelmouse1 (PS/2).
>|
>| A wild ignorant guess, could KB891711 problems be mouse related?
>
>It could be anything. But, KB891711.exe will work for me before I've
>connected to the NET. If it's my mouse, it would have to be due to
>something extra it does at that time.

I said it was a wild ignorant guess 🙂.

>|
>| >| >| USER32.DLL Win32 USER32 core component Microsoft
>| >Corporation
>| >| >4.10.0000.2222
>| >| >
>| >| >USER32.DLL v.4.10.2227
>| >|
>| >| Ditto answer to "GDI32.DLL" above.
>| >
>| >OK, but I still appear to have a higher version. Not sure what gave
>it
>| >to me. I am Win98SE.
>| >
>| >USER32.DLL
>| >Desc: Win32 USER32 core component
>| >Loc: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
>| >Size: 55,296 bytes
>| >Mod: Friday, April 21, 2000 08:33:18 AM
>| >Ver: 4.10.2227
>|
>| Oops. Missed that. I have 98SE, too, recently updated. [Don't tell
>| Gary Terhune, ok ;-)?]
>|
>| USER32.DLL
>| Size: 69,632 bytes
>| Mod: Friday, April 23, 1999 10:22:00 PM
>| Ver: 4.10.2222
>| Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp. 1991-1998
>|
>| I have no clue what significance there may be in the difference
>| between our files.
>
>This is a Compaq 7470. But it can't be something they've done, because
>it was purchased 1/14/00, three months before the Mod Date on my
>USER32.DLL. I don't see where that file is meaningfully mentioned in my
>SFClog.txt, BUT I'm sure I've not kept the very early .log entries. You
>seem to have one straight out of...
>Cabinet WIN98_42.CAB
>04-23-1999 10:22:00p A--- 69,632 user32.dll
>
>I have looked inside my IE5 & IE6 .cab's with WinZip, & do not find
>USER32.DLL in those.

USER32.DLL is probably irrelevant to this discussion. Interesting,
though, I bought this Gateway in '98, so both our files are
"post-dated."

--
Luke

Guest · Mar 14, 2005

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I am getting closer to performing the grueling exercise you suggest in
MSConfig, as I begin to suspect not all Dial-ups have the problem.
(Well, it's you who has Dial-up w/o the problem.) Did you see my post in
that other thread...?...

OUCH. I was thinking everyone with Dial-Up had the problem. If it's only
some of us, MS may not care as much! At...

"START, Run, MSInfo32, Software Environment, Running Tasks"

Do you see both of these...?...

Rnaapp.exe 4.10.2222 Microsoft Corporation Dial-Up Networking
Application C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\Rnaapp.exe 4.0 Microsoft(R) Windows(R)
Operating System

Tapisrv.exe 4.10.2222 Microsoft Corporation Microsoft® Windows(TM)
Telephony Server C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\Tapisrv.exe 4.0 Microsoft(R)
Windows(R) Operating System

What about this one...?...

Ddhelp.exe 4.09.00.0900 Microsoft Corporation Microsoft DirectX Helper
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\Ddhelp.exe 4.0 Microsoft® DirectX for Windows®

ALSO, please show me the KB891711.exe line.

--
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There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"mae" <agrannie@notemail.msn.com> wrote in message
news:%23bMlegIKFHA.904@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| Just providing a trouble shooter since those applications can cause
| corrupted installs if running. And I remember you said you got a slew
of
| McAfee Anti Virus updates recently; but if you have it disabled when
| installing would be immaterial.
| I wonder what the conflict is when you are connected. (?)
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:um2gHGsJFHA.2784@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
| ---snip----|
| | mae... I've never had to do all that before. McAfee has never
| | interfered, either. There was no error accessing Windows Update,
(until
| | afterwards). All went quick & well, with the little thing coming in
in
| | under a minute. EVEN IE works offline, getting sites from my TIFs.
It's
| | only after I connect to the NET with NetZero, I get that orderly
BSOD
| | every time I try to click an URL or IE. HOWEVER, I suppose I could
try
| | all of that, pending I don't see an MVP or even a rare MS personage
pop
| | in with some kind of admission of guilt & apology!
| |
| --snip-----
|

Guest · Mar 14, 2005

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Well, your two plus mae's one add up to, uhhhh... THREE fingers...
MACHINES, I mean!... on Dial-up w/o the KB891711.exe problem. Please do
the MSInfo32 assignment I have given to mae elsewhere in this thread--
TWICE!

Elizabeth, I now think, never had DyFuCA, but SpyBot just cashed when
that one was being search.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Galen" <galennews@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%239bUcXNKFHA.1500@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
| In news:Orl%23UqMKFHA.3928@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl,
| Galen <galennews@gmail.com> had this to say:
|
| My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:
|
| > Beth is on dialup for one. Though the more I look at her posts the
| > more I'm still incline to think the virus that is/was affecting her
| > is adding to the complexity and thus can't be sure that the error is
| > entirely KB891711.exe or the update.
| >
| > Galen
|
| More accurately that should read (posted in another thread and now see
that
| it wasn't cross posted as I'd thought the thread was) that I'm on
dialup and
| have now installed it on an 98 and an ME system and both are dialup.
No
| problems here but these are just test systems running the minimum
additional
| software such as a firewall and anti-virus. Firewall is Outpost and AV
is
| Kaspersky if that's worth anything.
|
| Not a glitch yet. KAV disabled during installation but firewall was up
and
| running during the whole process on both of them.
|
| Galen
| --
| Signature changed for a moment of silence.
| Rest well Alex and we'll see you on the other side.
|
|

Guest · Mar 15, 2005

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"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message news:uTxTuLOKFHA.2640@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

> This is a Compaq 7470.

Who's the CPU? AMD?

Guest · Mar 15, 2005

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Yes, I have all of those and the line you request.
KB891711.EXE 4.10.2222
Microsoft Corporation Windows KB891711 component
c:\windows\SYSTEM\KB891711\KB891711.EXE 3.0
Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Operating System
--
mae

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:%23jBgHQOKFHA.576@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
| I am getting closer to performing the grueling exercise you suggest in
| MSConfig, as I begin to suspect not all Dial-ups have the problem.
| (Well, it's you who has Dial-up w/o the problem.) Did you see my post in
| that other thread...?...
|
| OUCH. I was thinking everyone with Dial-Up had the problem. If it's only
| some of us, MS may not care as much! At...
|
| "START, Run, MSInfo32, Software Environment, Running Tasks"
|
| Do you see both of these...?...
|
| Rnaapp.exe 4.10.2222 Microsoft Corporation Dial-Up Networking
| Application C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\Rnaapp.exe 4.0 Microsoft(R) Windows(R)
| Operating System
|
| Tapisrv.exe 4.10.2222 Microsoft Corporation Microsoft® Windows(TM)
| Telephony Server C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\Tapisrv.exe 4.0 Microsoft(R)
| Windows(R) Operating System
|
| What about this one...?...
|
| Ddhelp.exe 4.09.00.0900 Microsoft Corporation Microsoft DirectX Helper
| C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\Ddhelp.exe 4.0 Microsoft® DirectX for Windows®
|
| ALSO, please show me the KB891711.exe line.
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
| pcrrcp@netzero.net
| "mae" <agrannie@notemail.msn.com> wrote in message
| news:%23bMlegIKFHA.904@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| | Just providing a trouble shooter since those applications can cause
| | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| | news:um2gHGsJFHA.2784@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
|| | | mae... I've never had to do all that before. McAfee has never
|

Guest · Mar 15, 2005

Guest · Mar 15, 2005

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PCR wrote:
> Yea, nice apps, both. Is ProcExp a CPU hog for you? I can hardly type
> when that thing is running!
>
>

I've just downloaded it (thanks for the link, Galen, been looking for
something like this), and it uses 2-3% of CPU at most (cf. Sygate PF at
about 7-8%).

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Nigel Stapley

www.judgemental.plus.com

<reply-to will bounce>

Guest · Mar 15, 2005

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Well... let me click it now... It's green in the Tray, but says "CPU
Usage: 36%", and I can type faster than the letters will render. Well,
it's set to update every five seconds. Looks like at the update is when
that effect happens.

Now, I've opened the window, & CPU Usage is upper 30's/lower 40's.
Although it is set for 5 sec. updates, I'm seeing constant activity in
the upper window. Was the 5 secs. for something else... uh, how long it
retains a closed process in the window... & not for updates at all?

Eek! Now, I've got Explorer.exe's DLL's showing in the bottom pane, &
CPU Usage is... 70%...!!!

It's nice, but seems to be quite a CPU hog to me! "View menu, Update
Speed, Paused" seems to get things back to normal. BUT the CPU Usage
display is frozen at an incredible 98.70%. Commit Charge at 10.82%.
Number of processes at 35. It's Icon in the Tray has turned red & claims
100% CPU Usage!

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Nigel Stapley" <unet@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message
news:4236158c$0$9782$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
| PCR wrote:
| > Yea, nice apps, both. Is ProcExp a CPU hog for you? I can hardly
type
| > when that thing is running!
| >
| >
|
| I've just downloaded it (thanks for the link, Galen, been looking for
| something like this), and it uses 2-3% of CPU at most (cf. Sygate PF
at
| about 7-8%).
|
| --
| Regards
|
| Nigel Stapley
|
| www.judgemental.plus.com
|
| <reply-to will bounce>

Guest · Mar 15, 2005

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With all these supposed "updates", it sounds to me like the real CPU usage
over there is around 0 %, if you catch my drift.

PCR wrote:
> Well... let me click it now... It's green in the Tray, but says "CPU
> Usage: 36%", and I can type faster than the letters will render. Well,
> it's set to update every five seconds. Looks like at the update is when
> that effect happens.
>
> Now, I've opened the window, & CPU Usage is upper 30's/lower 40's.
> Although it is set for 5 sec. updates, I'm seeing constant activity in
> the upper window. Was the 5 secs. for something else... uh, how long it
> retains a closed process in the window... & not for updates at all?
>
> Eek! Now, I've got Explorer.exe's DLL's showing in the bottom pane, &
> CPU Usage is... 70%...!!!
>
> It's nice, but seems to be quite a CPU hog to me! "View menu, Update
> Speed, Paused" seems to get things back to normal. BUT the CPU Usage
> display is frozen at an incredible 98.70%. Commit Charge at 10.82%.
> Number of processes at 35. It's Icon in the Tray has turned red & claims
> 100% CPU Usage!
>
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
> "Nigel Stapley" <unet@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message
> news:4236158c$0$9782$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
>> PCR wrote:
>>> Yea, nice apps, both. Is ProcExp a CPU hog for you? I can hardly type
>>> when that thing is running!
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I've just downloaded it (thanks for the link, Galen, been looking for
>> something like this), and it uses 2-3% of CPU at most (cf. Sygate PF at
>> about 7-8%).
>>
>> --
>> Regards
>>
>> Nigel Stapley
>>
>> www.judgemental.plus.com
>>
>> <reply-to will bounce>

Guest · Mar 15, 2005

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AuthenticAMD AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor
533 MHz.

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should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Bill Blanton" <bblanton@REMOVEmagicnet.net> wrote in message
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|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
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|
| > This is a Compaq 7470.
|
| Who's the CPU? AMD?
|
|
|

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