Kepler news and discussion

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June 5th for the GTX 660?
http://news.softpedia.com/news/NVIDIA-s-GeForce-GTX-660-Pictured-272242.shtml
http://vr-zone.com/articles/nvidia-geforce-gtx-660-is-the-fifth-gk104-board-comes-out-for-computex-2012-/16038.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+vr-zone+(VR-Zone+|+Coolest+Gadgets+for+Men,+Geek,+Nerd,+Overclockers+and+Enthusiast)&utm_content=Google+Reader

 

[Guest]

that 6 pin connector looks horrid being perpendicular to the slot . .

 

[17seconds]

that 6 pin connector looks horrid being perpendicular to the slot . .
http://assets.vr-zone.net/16038/MSI_GTX660_700.jpg

Quote from the article:
"While the image of the board is obviously photoshopped (the lower part of the bracket is not present, the heatsink has a six-pin connector slapped on top), we checked with our sources and the product appears to be legit. The highlighted single six-pin connector on the heatsink was positioned there to highlight that the board cannot pull more than 150 Watts, which the author of the leaked image made sure off."

 

[Guest]

ah!
i didn't read the second article . .actually i thought it was glued.

 

[esrever]

if you look under the card at the box, it looks like it says Dispaly Port again.

 

[mayankleoboy1]

Some sites claim the gtx660 is GK104 and some claim its GK106...

 

[mactronix]

It would be good to know which chip is under the hood and the answer will also answer a bunch of other questions as well.
Still not long to go now if the release date is correct.

Mactronix

 

[darksalvatore]

The GK106 will act as the heart of the card, with its four SMX clusters and 768 CUDA cores. 2 GB of GDDR5 will back up said chip, operating on an interface of either 192 or 256 bits, probably the latter.


768 cuda ??? it will be weaker then 580 for sure ;///////

 

[esrever]

it will be weaker than the 7870 with 768 cores.

 

[Guest]

thats like comparing apples to oranges. . .

 

[mactronix]

@ esrever & darksalvatore.

Really ?? and how many cores were there on a 560 TI then and how did that compare to a 580 ?

Twice that many and better cores and you dont think it will perform well

Mactronix

 

[darksalvatore]

mactronix

not only cores .... 660 has other speces lowered to ....

 

[Guest]

i can't see the 660 getting hamper with a 192 bit bus.

look the three releases so far have smashed the 79xx series. its time when the 78xx series devastator gets uncaged.

 

[mactronix]

I think we have far too little info right now to be decrying the 660ti as either terrible or awesome. Let's wait and see.

I'm with Looniam on this one... my guess is that the 660ti will be a bit better than the 7870, probably around the 580.

Agreed there is a lot about this card that is not general knowledge right now. Review sites cant even agree on which chip it is never mind other things like bus size etc.

As with the 560Ti Nvidia have the option of dropping this card exactly where they want it performance wise. Clock speed/ bus size/ which chip they actually use and how many cores/function units are actually active can all be used to control where the card fits.

However if the card does not sit right on top of the 580 performance wise and does perform around the 7870 area then that would indicate to me that they are leaving the 580 performance area either to a second version or as with the GTX 460 maybe leaving room for the AIB's to strut their stuff.

Mactronix

 

[-Jackson]

that 6 pin connector looks horrid being perpendicular to the slot . .
http://assets.vr-zone.net/16038/MSI_GTX660_700.jpg

I'd hate to imagine what it would look like with a 6-Pin connected to it.. :lol:

 

[esrever]

@ esrever & darksalvatore.

Really ?? and how many cores were there on a 560 TI then and how did that compare to a 580 ?

Twice that many and better cores and you dont think it will perform well

Mactronix

http://www.techpowerup.com/166186/NVIDIA-Readies-GK104-based-GeForce-GTX-680M-for-Computex.html

680m with the same number of cores as the 660

P4905

http://www.overclock.net/t/1247427/7970m-vantage-and-3dmark-11-scores-are-up
http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp186/powwow71/Capture1.jpg

7970m = downclocked 7870

P6125

I can assume that the 660 won't beat the 7870 considering it would have to be clocked 60% higher than the 680m to match the desktop 7870 performance.

 

[Guest]

i did a little look see at what nvidia released when for the last few generations after my little unchain the 78xx devastator comment last night.

it seems the higer end cards get released with a entry level a few moths afterwards like the 280 then the 260 or 580/70 then the 550ti. then a special edition card like the 260(216) or 560ti 448 to fill in the middle ground.

so if that has any correlation the 660 would really be aimed at the 7770 market with the 78xx market filled in with a "special" edition release a few months after.

just a mental exercise . . .

 

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GTX 660 will be the HD 7850 competitor just like the GTX 4/560 and the HD 6850.
it will beat-up the HD 7770.

You guys are all way off:
680 ~ 7970
670 ~ 7950
660 ~ 7870

It's not really that hard, unless you are anticipating a GTX 660 Ti to take a higher spot in the lineup. Of course, across the board the Nvidia option will be faster and cheaper at launch.

 

[17seconds]

I was and I'm also expecting a GTX 670 Ti like we saw in that pic some time back..

You mean that card they rebranded as the GTX 680?

 

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http://www.tomshardware.com/news/geforce-GK104-Kepler-GTX670_Ti-GTX670,15235.html

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/rumored_gtx_670_ti_specifications_surface
Rumored GTX 670 Ti Specifications Surface

All right, the Nvidia GTX 680 is finally here, and it's awesome! The high end graphics card is so awesome, in fact, that picking one up will set you back a cool $500 -- more than many people are willing (or able) to spend on gaming. Fortunately for fraggers on a budget, we're starting to hear rumors about more moderately priced cards like the GTX 670 Ti.

The GTX 670 Ti will reportedly still use the same GK104 base as the GTX 680, according to the German 3DCenter.org website (and helpfully reported in English by VR Zone). In fact, the reports say GTX 670 Ti will basically be the GTX 680, but with one of the eight streaming multiprocessors (SMX) disabled -- presumably due to manufacturing defects. Each SMX rocks 192 CUDA cores, so a seven SMX-sporting GTX 670 Ti would have 1344 cores.

Most other specs are said to be basically identical to the GTX 680, but with rumored core clock base speed of at least 900MHz and a 1250MHz memory clock (5GHz effective). That means:

1344 Cores
4 Graphics Processing Clusters
7 SMX Clusters (192 units per Cluster)
112 Texture Units
32 Raster Units
256-bit Memory Controller
2 GB GDDR5 Memory

So when can we expect to see the GTX 670 Ti? Nvidia's Kepler launch isn't as fast and furious as AMD's 7000 series roll out: all signs -- and by that, we mean rumors -- point to the GTX 670 Ti launching in May. That sort of timeframe would let Nvidia stockpile plenty of cards with a missing SMX block. Price-wise, 3DCenter.org says to expect the GTX 670 Ti to fall somewhere in the $350 to $400 range. The numbers sound right to our ears, but as always, remember to take all rumors with a punch of salt.

April 6th article. They were clearly talking about the good ol' GTX 670 that we all know and love.

 

[-Jackson]

@salv: I wouldn't be holding my breath for 2Gb GDDR5 if I were you..

 

[17seconds]

maybe dude, heck I don't know anymore....

Maybe you could just accept my logic and quit fighting it. Your resistance is your prison.

680 ~ 7970
670 ~ 7950
660 ~ 7870

Nvidia will set whatever clock speeds are necessary to fit it nicely right there, and I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it was as fast as a 7950 and only $300.

 

[mayankleoboy1]

Quick question :
is a HD4870 at double the price of a 8800GTX worthwhile?

both out of wearranty. temp/power not a concern.
Concern= max performance for cheapest price

 

[darksalvatore]

does it means that even old cpus like my i7 950 on stock clocks or i7 870 .. can even handle gtx 670 or gtx 680 in sli ??? Kelper uses cpu a lot less then fermi ... ;/ it uses most themself .... so maybe even such old i7 can handle 680s on stock clocks ??

http://images.anandtech.com/doci/5840/DyPar.png

 

[akamrcrack]

Quick question :
is a HD4870 at double the price of a 8800GTX worthwhile?

both out of wearranty. temp/power not a concern.
Concern= max performance for cheapest price

What is your budget?