Laptop 15" 4K for editing video full hd/4K.

[aronbike]

Dear all,
I own a nikon D750 and a Garmin Virb. Both can record full hd footage.
With my old laptop I used “Pinnacle” with files no bigger than 720p. Now it is moment to get a new laptop that I want keep for long term, at least until when I will change all my equipment.
I’m looking for a notebook, better with 4K 15,6” screen, able to manage well footage Full Hd/4K and picture RAW (~20-25 MB).
I’m not professional user but I would learn Adobe Premiere, Avid or some other software which is more suited to my tastes.
I read somewhere that a notebook for Premiere is optimized differently from one for Avid, Is it true?
Furthermore I’d like to make some small special 3D effect with After Effects.
Finally I use Adobe Photoshop and Lightroom for photo editing.
I read many things (many confusion) on line and in your forum and more or less I have an idea what I should buy. Right now I’m in China for work I found some laptop that I can get but I need some expert confirmation.
Below I show also the Chinese price just to have an idea about the cost. I hope this can help you to give me the right feedback or to provide me some other model because I grope in the dark and I don’t know which way to turn! 

I can buy a Retina 15” MacBook Pro at RMB 21,086 with:
• 2.8GHz Intel Core i7，Turbo Boost 4.0GHz
• 16GB 1600MHz DDR3L SDRAM
• PCIe 512GB
• Intel Iris Pro Graphics and 2GB GDDR5 NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M
• G-Technology 1TB G-Drive Mobile Thunderbolt USB 3.0
Sincerely I don’t want learn a new OS, I don’t like policy of Apple and some software that I use sometimes for my “real job” are not for Apple. I should use windows emulator and it's not worth the hassle.

I really like the new Alienware 15 because of QHD Display at RMB 21,999, very expensive if is compared to USA version but this version use better components.
– Intel® Core™ i7-4710HQ Processor (Quad-Core, 6MB Cache, up to 3.5GHz w/ Turbo Boost)
– 15.6 inch UHD (3840 x 2160) IPS-Panel TrueLife 350-nits Display with Touch Technology
– NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 980M with 4GB GDDR5
– 16GB DDR3L at 1600MHz (2x8GB)
– 512GB m2.80 NGFF TLC SSD + 1TB 5,400 HDD
I know it is big, heavy, noisy and heat. My doubt is, if i7-4710HQ is powerfull enough.
Do you think this Alienware could be fit to my needs? Is it worth the risk to buy?

Another crucial point is about the GPU. I understood that people still are going to GTX instead of Quadro for editing Video because of CUDA. I believe if I use all software from Adobe I should not have any issue about speed of rendering, but someone suggest to look Dell M4800 or HP ZBook 15 G2.

From MSI I found a laptop thin and light (about 2 kg) laptop, unfortunately it has a poor battery.
MSI GS60 2QE-215CN - 16000 RMB
• Intel® Core™ i7-4710HQ Processor
• Nvdia GTX970M GDDR5 3G
• 15.6” 3K IPS, I found no information on line about the quality of this screen.
• 2x128 super Raid + 1T 7200
• 16GB DDR3L at 1600MHz (2x8GB)

In China I discovered a brand looks like Alienware. It is Terrans Force. It produce gaming laptop with cost quite good but high power. I have never heard about them and I don’t know about the quality of assembling and the screen.

X599-970M-47 with monitor 3K - RMB 18000
• Intel Core i7-4790 desktop 4.0GHz
• 16GB DDR3L at 1600MHz (2x8GB)
• 256 SSD + 1 TB HDD
• NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M 6GB
• 15.6"WQHD+ (2880×1620)

From Terrans Force with screen Full HD.

X611-880M-48SH1 - RMB 20000
• I7-4800MQ 2.7 GHz, Turbo Boost 3.7GHz
• 32GB (8GB x 4)
• 128 G SSD x2 + 1 TB 7200 HDD
• GTX 880M 8GB
• 15.6" FHD PPI 141

X611-980M-48SH1 – RMB 20000
• Intel Core i7-4810MQ
• NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M 8GB
• 16GB DDR3L at 1600MHz (2x8GB)
• 128G SSD×2 1TB HDD ×1
• 15.6" FHD PPI 141

I hope that this very small research can help you.
Last thing and thanks if you are reading this sentence. Is it worth to take a 4k screen?
Thanks in advance.

 

[zippo72]

I would consider MSI WS60 4K model. This model will provide you with the 4K UHD screen you want with slim and light design. Also, the WS60 has Thunderbolt 2 which gives you access to pretty good speed. And i believe this model comes with 2 x 128gb in Raid 0, so you do get the speed bump for read/write even with 4K raw files. For battery, one should not expect the mobile workstation to last long if your work is heavy use. But, i've heard from clients that you can get 3-4 hours out of WS60 for video editiong and such. Honestly, i would always plug mine in when I am using it for video editing. This unit also comes with mobile Quadro K2100m which i think is a better choice over the gtx. yes, the gtx may run the same openGL files but it really comes down to the reliability and assurance as the quadro cards are ISV certified.

Choosing the right mobile workstation is tuff, and i konw bc it took me about 4 months to decide. I chose mine (WS60 3K version, it's 4K now) for the weight (4.19lbs) and the thickness(0.75mm). It really is light and having the Quadro k2100m in this thing was the key value for me. I use the TB2 to backup my 4K videos and they are very very fast.

 

[aronbike]

I guess I will take a Windows laptop and I quite sure to take something thin like the MSI. In the mean time I found the CLEVO P651SG http://www.clevo.com.tw/clevo_prodetail.asp?id=738&lang=en. Many company like EUROCOM, XMG, PC Specialist, SCAN ....etc. use the CLEVO as base and then there is the possibility to customize. This model in particular can have a 4K QFHD 3840x2160; IPS; Glossy; 1000:1; NTSC 72%; sRGB 100%; Backlight WLED; eDP from SHARP.

About Quadro vs GTX. I found an interesting article here: http://blogs.adobe.com/genesisproject/2011/10/diving-into-nvidia-gpus-and-what-they-mean-for-premiere-pro.html maybe it can help someone. About me, I'm still uncertain about this topic. I will roll the dice....

@ zippo72: Thanks!