News Leaked Intel Core 3 N350 iGPU benchmarks point toward last-gen performance — Geekbench 5 OpenCL score lower than Intel UHD Graphics, GeForce 940M

[Admin]

Early Intel Core N350 iGPU benchmarks seem to have leaked.

Leaked Intel Core 3 N350 iGPU benchmarks point toward last-gen performance — Geekbench 5 OpenCL score lower than Intel UHD Graphics, GeForce 940M : Read more

 

[thestryker]

Cache configuration says this is just another ADL-N part so it's just an N305 +100Mhz CPU core clock. Unfortunate that Intel wouldn't be moving to a new core design, but also unsurprising as these are likely lower volume and margin parts.

 

[Giroro]

Hopefully it supports dual channel memory.
I'm pretty sure a memory bottleneck is why my single channel DDR4 N100 reports 98% GPU utilization during a simple OBS steam that's using <5% render and <30% encode.

Thing is sooo close to almost being a good streaming box.

 

[Notton]

I doubt N350 will have dual channel.
It'll be like the N100, N300, and i3-1210U, featuring a 128-bit membus, but it's split between DDR4 and DDR5.

 

[thestryker]

Hopefully it supports dual channel memory.
I'm pretty sure a memory bottleneck is why my single channel DDR4 N100 reports 98% GPU utilization during a simple OBS steam that's using <5% render and <30% encode.

Thing is sooo close to almost being a good streaming box.

It won't be dual channel as it's going to be the same core design. ARL-N really needs DDR5/LPDDR5 to get enough bandwidth due to single channel and even then could likely benefit from dual channel depending on the workload.

 

[User of Computers]

It won't be dual channel as it's going to be the same core design. ARL-N really needs DDR5/LPDDR5 to get enough bandwidth due to single channel and even then could likely benefit from dual channel depending on the workload.

ARL-N likely won't be exist. This leaked SKU is probably just "Twinlake", which is allegedly just ADL-N refresh.

 

[subspruce]

ARL-N likely won't be exist. This leaked SKU is probably just "Twinlake", which is allegedly just ADL-N refresh.

why does Intel love refreshing Alder Lake so much?

 

[TheHerald]

why does Intel love refreshing Alder Lake so much?

It's very common on laptops AMD is still refreshing 2020 zen3 that are older than alderlake. They even name them Ryzen 7 7xxx.

 

[subspruce]

It's very common on laptops AMD is still refreshing 2020 zen3 that are older than alderlake. They even name them Ryzen 7 7xxx.

Well Barceló-R was launched in January 2023, so 2 years after Zen 3 APUs first launched. This is launching over 3 years after Alder Lake launched (well this is just under 2 years after ADL-N launched), so both companies are equally guilty of this. Well you're missing something. Barceló-R is the 7030 series, easily distinguishable from the 7040 series, Phoenix.

 

[TheHerald]

Well Barceló-R was launched in January 2023, so 2 years after Zen 3 APUs first launched. This is launching over 3 years after Alder Lake launched (well this is just under 2 years after ADL-N launched), so both companies are equally guilty of this. Well you're missing something. Barceló-R is the 7030 series, easily distinguishable from the 7040 series, Phoenix.

Rebrand (lol) launched in 2024 man.

 

[thestryker]

why does Intel love refreshing Alder Lake so much?

These are all the exact same architecture with regards to the CPU cores compute capability with same core count:
5800X:
Release Date: Nov 5th, 2020
5800XT:
Release Date: Jul 31st, 2024

With the half cache implementation:
5800H:
Release Date: Jan 12th, 2021
5700G:
Release Date: Apr 13th, 2021
6800H:
Released: Jan 2022
5700:
Release Date: Apr 4th, 2022
7735H
Release Date: Jan 4th, 2023

AMD and Intel both do the same thing and TLDR: money.

Realistically though there's three main reasons we're seeing it:

1. MTL was the first volume part from IFS using EUV while they were still installing machines in fabs so they'd have likely never had enough volume of MTL alone to cover the laptop market so we saw some RPL SKUs.
2. ARL is using TSMC N3 which costs a lot of money so it makes sense that the lower laptop SKUs (unsure if there will be desktop or not) will be ADL/RPL.
3. When it comes to ADL-N the cadence for enterprise is likely a driver. Crestmont isn't a significant improvement over Gracemont so it would make sense for Intel to be planning a replacement with Skymont/Darkmont. Given the generally low margin of these parts it would make sense that Intel would prefer to use their own fabs and/or a cheaper process to make them and they likely don't have capacity right now. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw either Skymont or Darkmont on Intel 3 as the new N SKU down the road.

 

[User of Computers]

These are all the exact same architecture with regards to the CPU cores compute capability with same core count:
5800X:
Release Date: Nov 5th, 2020
5800XT:
Release Date: Jul 31st, 2024

With the half cache implementation:
5800H:
Release Date: Jan 12th, 2021
5700G:
Release Date: Apr 13th, 2021
6800H:
Released: Jan 2022
5700:
Release Date: Apr 4th, 2022
7735H
Release Date: Jan 4th, 2023

AMD and Intel both do the same thing and TLDR: money.

Realistically though there's three main reasons we're seeing it:

1. MTL was the first volume part from IFS using EUV while they were still installing machines in fabs so they'd have likely never had enough volume of MTL alone to cover the laptop market so we saw some RPL SKUs.
2. ARL is using TSMC N3 which costs a lot of money so it makes sense that the lower laptop SKUs (unsure if there will be desktop or not) will be ADL/RPL.
3. When it comes to ADL-N the cadence for enterprise is likely a driver. Crestmont isn't a significant improvement over Gracemont so it would make sense for Intel to be planning a replacement with Skymont/Darkmont. Given the generally low margin of these parts it would make sense that Intel would prefer to use their own fabs and/or a cheaper process to make them and they likely don't have capacity right now. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw either Skymont or Darkmont on Intel 3 as the new N SKU down the road.

This, basically. I assume that Intel has tons and tons of Intel 7 volume to go around, and very little leading-edge fab components. They have no reason to be wasting Intel 3 or 4 capacity on a low-volume, low-margin product such as this. Even Alder and Raptor Lake i5s and i7s on the mobile side will continue to be sold for years to come, because they don't have the fab capacity to discontinue the Intel 7 based products and introduce new products based on newer nodes for that swimlane.