The thing about Panasonic ToughBook, like ThinkPads. Not ALL Toughbooks are the same. They have both business class, which are like ThinkPads and Industrial Class which Lenovo or IBM never made. IE: Industrial laptops are HUGE, made to work in very harsh environments - such as boats, tanks, dusty warehouses with rubber keys, etc.
These beasts such as the Toughbook 19 & 31 can upwards of 3" thick and costs $4000~7000! Their more "business" models that are 1.5~2" thick are in the $2000~3500 and are about 7+lbs.
Thinkpads are excellent for business and don't usually costs $3000~6000. They are far more affordable at $800~1600 for most configs and are about 3~5lbs.
JRFC is correct, they are NOT comparable to ThinkPads. But they are also NOT in the same market either. Toughbooks are bought with the expectation of being being dropped, thrown, stepped on, getting treated like garbage.
ThinkPads are better for business people, professionals, student and even still, for home users. Where accidents may happen and the notebook WILL survive. They are not flashy, but I think THEY do look great. Opposite of Macbooks, HP and other glossy junk.
Trust me.. I think many of us have seen notebooks die from spilling of drinks, power connector wears out (HP) and lack of serious functions or features.
Most of us will NEVER want to buy a Toughbook... they are the HUMMER of notebooks
Sudeshc : Eyes of the beholder. Some Thinkpads look better than others. Some even come in RED. They have their IdeaPad line which is more mainstream that look quite nice with pretty much NONE of the feature sets of ThinkPads, but are generally better built than HP... the Lenovo G-Series is as crappy as any other $300~400 notebook. G=Garbage I guess.
I walked by the PCs at Walmart... HP isn't EVEN trying anymore. They have both Compaq and HP branded notebooks side by side, and the chassis/keyboard/etc were exactly the same! On the logos were different. Why bother with the Compaq brand?
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