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RTX 5050 might be the exact same chip as 4050, coexisting with the 4050 Max-Q. We don't know.

Or maybe it will be multiple different old chips all called RTX 5050, with wildly different performance levels. Or maybe a RTX 5050 mobile won't be released and they'll just rename their lowest-end design to RTX 5060 Ti Mobile at the last minute. Who knows. It's Nvidia.
All we know is that they don't want to make new gaming chips because of the opportunity cost, so prices for everything they make will go up (probably even their old chips) when they release the next gen.... if they even bother releasing a next gen.

What are you going to do about it?
 
No problem, nVidia will still make their revenue gains while AMD might gain tens of sales worldwide from this situation.

Everybody wants green, so that's ya'lls problem.
 
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DS426 said:
Everybody wants green, so that's ya'lls problem.
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not really. people want performance for their perceived money value.

If next AMD gpu's are 4080 ish at price of a 4070 many people would switch so long as performance is there. (and if FSR4 is better which should as isn't the rumor of it being more liek dlss?)

fsr 3 is bad (by comparison) and rt performance on amd is worse. if they fix those issues nvidia loses the benefits apart from the HALO tier buyers.
 
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This is simple. They put the (planned) price up, don't buy them. The prices will soon fall.

But we don't do that, as we continue to put up with fake rises. Same for phones and tablets. Profits keep increasing.
 
Giroro said:
RTX 5050 might be the exact same chip as 4050, coexisting with the 4050 Max-Q. We don't know.

Or maybe it will be multiple different old chips all called RTX 5050, with wildly different performance levels. Or maybe a RTX 5050 mobile won't be released and they'll just rename their lowest-end design to RTX 5060 Ti Mobile at the last minute. Who knows. It's Nvidia.
All we know is that they don't want to make new gaming chips because of the opportunity cost, so prices for everything they make will go up (probably even their old chips) when they release the next gen.... if they even bother releasing a next gen.

What are you going to do about it?
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If Nvidia doesn't launch, N44 and N48 will be way better positioned to launch

hotaru251 said:
not really. people want performance for their perceived money value.

If next AMD gpu's are 4080 ish at price of a 4070 many people would switch so long as performance is there. (and if FSR4 is better which should as isn't the rumor of it being more liek dlss?)

fsr 3 is bad (by comparison) and rt performance on amd is worse. if they fix those issues nvidia loses the benefits apart from the HALO tier buyers.
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In that situation Nvidia would paper launch a 5070 mobile to discourage AMD buyers
 
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hotaru251 said:
not really. people want performance for their perceived money value.

If next AMD gpu's are 4080 ish at price of a 4070 many people would switch so long as performance is there. (and if FSR4 is better which should as isn't the rumor of it being more liek dlss?)

fsr 3 is bad (by comparison) and rt performance on amd is worse. if they fix those issues nvidia loses the benefits apart from the HALO tier buyers.
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That’s assuming most buy Nvidia because of ray tracing and DLSS. The simple truth is most buy Nvidia because they were told to.
 
Also the volume. Generally more Nvidia cards in OEMs and on the shelves because there are simply more of them. If everyone switched to AMD, they wouldn't be able to keep up in the short term.

AMD would have to wildly over produce and drop prices if they wanted to make much progress, and they still wouldn't be competing that well at the top end.

But it makes more financial sense for them to keep even their prices high at the top end so that enthusiasts can cover the costs of the big GPUs.

Not sure why a new release product being more expensive than the current one is a surprise to anyone. Nvidia is basically competing with themselves in the low end mobile gaming market. Can't say I see any good deals on discrete AMD mobile graphics with any regularity. Always RTX 3050/4050 laptops on sale.
 
Eximo said:
Also the volume. Generally more Nvidia cards in OEMs and on the shelves because there are simply more of them. If everyone switched to AMD, they wouldn't be able to keep up in the short term.

AMD would have to wildly over produce and drop prices if they wanted to make much progress, and they still wouldn't be competing that well at the top end.

But it makes more financial sense for them to keep even their prices high at the top end so that enthusiasts can cover the costs of the big GPUs.

Not sure why a new release product being more expensive than the current one is a surprise to anyone. Nvidia is basically competing with themselves in the low end mobile gaming market. Can't say I see any good deals on discrete AMD mobile graphics with any regularity. Always RTX 3050/4050 laptops on sale.
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despite Navi 33 not being used at a 24CU configuration. Pretty sure AMD has quite a bit of those yields, but isn't using them
 
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They may be putting them out in the Asian market or reserving them for OEM GPUs. Or the yields are good so that the smallest they make is 28 CU.
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When AMD puts a card to the Asian market, it eventually reaches the west, so if they put it to the Asian market, we would have already seen it in the western market. When a card is launched for OEMs, it eventually reaches the used space, and I haven't heard of that happening either.
 
I always assumed the lack of popularity in AMD mobile GPUs was due to poor availability.
The pricing and value wasn't bad, just not stellar.

Most people seem perfectly content with the iGPU on a Ryzen 7840HS. The price jump from APU to dGPU is a hard pill to swallow with the downsides it has on a laptop.

Nvidia, on the other hand, always offers plenty of stock for their ultra low end mobile GPUs. Do you know how crap a mobile RTX 2050, 3050, and 4050 are? Like they barely manage 60fps lows with DLSS in performance mode.
 
hotaru251 said:
not really. people want performance for their perceived money value.

If next AMD gpu's are 4080 ish at price of a 4070 many people would switch so long as performance is there. (and if FSR4 is better which should as isn't the rumor of it being more liek dlss?)

fsr 3 is bad (by comparison) and rt performance on amd is worse. if they fix those issues nvidia loses the benefits apart from the HALO tier buyers.
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If you say you're willing to consider switching, but need to have total parity or better in every category as well as a full tier price saving... then you're not really interested in switching, you're just justifying the decision you already made to go Team Green, and wish AMD would drive their prices down so you can buy Nvidia for cheaper.
 
subspruce said:
despite Navi 33 not being used at a 24CU configuration. Pretty sure AMD has quite a bit of those yields, but isn't using them
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No. If they had a ton of Navi33 sitting around at 24CU binning there would exist an rx 7500xt, probably with 6GB on a 96 bit bus. Why would they just sit on a ton of dies that still had 75% of CUs functional? That makes literally zero sense.
 
Pierce2623 said:
No. If they had a ton of Navi33 sitting around at 24CU binning there would exist an rx 7500xt, probably with 6GB on a 96 bit bus. Why would they just sit on a ton of dies that still had 75% of CUs functional? That makes literally zero sense.
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oh wait im actually stupid
 
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