LG's Next-Gen Phone Has New Display, Battery, Snapdragon

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OH GOD PLEASE DON'T MAKE ANOTHER DAMN THIN PHONE, I'M SICK OF ALL THE PAPER THICK PHONES OUT THERE....

And on the positive note its good to see that it will have an IPS screen and not an AMOLED, i hate those screens i have yet to see one that does not have a hue of eider Green or Blue. Yes even the almighty S2 and S3, tho i have to admit the strides on the S3 over the S2 screen are impressive, but still. And here is a vague hope that the phone will actuary last the day with 1 charge.
 
[citation][nom]olaf[/nom]OH GOD PLEASE DON'T MAKE ANOTHER DAMN THIN PHONE, I'M SICK OF ALL THE PAPER THICK PHONES OUT THERE.... And on the positive note its good to see that it will have an IPS screen and not an AMOLED, i hate those screens i have yet to see one that does not have a hue of eider Green or Blue. Yes even the almighty S2 and S3, tho i have to admit the strides on the S3 over the S2 screen are impressive, but still. And here is a vague hope that the phone will actuary last the day with 1 charge.[/citation]

I thought that the hue of blue or green was just because it was a more true colored screen than my crappy droid 3. So AMOLED screens actually are off on color?
 
Igod is coming to crush Igalaxy therefore seek Isalvation before it is too late and you receive Idestruction. Ipray for thee..
 
[citation][nom]kewl munky[/nom]I thought that the hue of blue or green was just because it was a more true colored screen than my crappy droid 3. So AMOLED screens actually are off on color?[/citation]

Unfortunately i have yet to see one AMOLED screen have the perfect color balance good IPS panel can deliver, and worse part of AMOLED is the overtime decay that occurs.
 
"Standard mobile phone batteries offer 500 charges at best, but the new one is 60-percent more efficient, providing 800 charges."

umm my palm pre battery lasted almost 4 years without needing a new battery charge lasted most of a day and charged it every day so that is at least 1200 charges ... to be fair most people won't keep thier phone more than 2 years anyway still better battery tech is always nice
 
Only question is how comfortable it will be to hold in the hand. I know LG has been put down a bit lately on build quality but I think they have turned the corner. From the reviews I preferred the color of the display and camera of LG Optimums 4X over the S3. Though they were really close. It looks like the LG display only uses less power when displaying an all white screen. This is nothing new, which means AMOLED still uses less power when large portions of the screen are black. So it depends on usage.
 
[citation][nom]g00fysmiley[/nom]"Standard mobile phone batteries offer 500 charges at best, but the new one is 60-percent more efficient, providing 800 charges."umm my palm pre battery lasted almost 4 years without needing a new battery charge lasted most of a day and charged it every day so that is at least 1200 charges ... to be fair most people won't keep thier phone more than 2 years anyway still better battery tech is always nice[/citation]

It is entirely the fault of the author of the article who clearly doesn't know the basic function of a battery. What is referred to is not charges but cycles. Which is the number of times the battery can be fully discharged and recharged. Lithium batteries that are not fully discharged can last an order of magnitude more charges than the specified number of cycles.

Also note that a battery is not dead after the specified number of cycles. The cycle number usually indicate at how many cycles the capacity of the battery has degraded to 85% of it's nominal value.

More modern battery chemistries (that cannot be found in any phone, to my knowledge) like LiFeYPO4 are normally specified to 85% capacity after 7000 (seven thousand) cycles and 60% after 12000 cycles. That's a full discharge/recharge cycle every day for 19 years (or 33 years for 40% degradtion).
 
[citation][nom]dragonsqrrl[/nom]How is it overrated?[/citation]
Reviewers everywhere calling it "powerful" and "screamer", nvidia touting the "console quality gaming" nonsense and people falling for that.
QUAD-CORE cpu and 12 COAR!!! gpu became big marketing words for them.

I'm ok for 4 cpu cores if there ARE applications that make use of them, but there aren't any at the moment.
and you'd think they included a good gpu this time around, but it can't even hold a candle to the 2-core SGX543 in the year+ old ipad2, and even the 4-core mali400 in the Galaxy S3 completely leaves it in the dust.
 
I really like the tile of this article,
could you imagine: "next gen LG phone will keep the same battery, same screen tech and same proc"?
Made me laugh a little
 
[citation][nom]saturnus[/nom]It is entirely the fault of the author of the article who clearly doesn't know the basic function of a battery. What is referred to is not charges but cycles. Which is the number of times the battery can be fully discharged and recharged. Lithium batteries that are not fully discharged can last an order of magnitude more charges than the specified number of cycles.Also note that a battery is not dead after the specified number of cycles. The cycle number usually indicate at how many cycles the capacity of the battery has degraded to 85% of it's nominal value.More modern battery chemistries (that cannot be found in any phone, to my knowledge) like LiFeYPO4 are normally specified to 85% capacity after 7000 (seven thousand) cycles and 60% after 12000 cycles. That's a full discharge/recharge cycle every day for 19 years (or 33 years for 40% degradtion).[/citation]

thanks for the info i was going to possibly gt a nissan leaf so i guess i won't want to run its lithium ion batteries out then, just as well it is a 100 mile range and i only have a 10 mile drive to work so maybe charge every other day
 
[citation][nom]netlink[/nom]Igod is coming to crush Igalaxy therefore seek Isalvation before it is too late and you receive Idestruction. Ipray for thee..[/citation]

I gave you a thumbs up because you made me luls.
 
[citation][nom]darkchazz[/nom]Reviewers everywhere calling it "powerful" and "screamer", nvidia touting the "console quality gaming" nonsense and people falling for that.QUAD-CORE cpu and 12 COAR!!! gpu became big marketing words for them.I'm ok for 4 cpu cores if there ARE applications that make use of them, but there aren't any at the moment.and you'd think they included a good gpu this time around, but it can't even hold a candle to the 2-core SGX543 in the year+ old ipad2, and even the 4-core mali400 in the Galaxy S3 completely leaves it in the dust.[/citation]
The SGX543 also takes up considerably more die area than the GPU in Tegra 3, even after you normalize the different manufacturing processes (45nm vs 40nm) of the A5 and Tegra 3. Unsurprisingly it also consumes more power at load. Both of these attributes are very important factors of consideration when determining the value of a mobile SOC, given the increasing prevalence of mobile 3D apps, and the fact that a mGPU at load can have a particularly significant impact on battery life. I think power consumption and die area are far more important in the mobile market than the desktop, and unlike the desktop I don't think absolute performance is the primary determination of value for a mobile SOC.

I never really understood the negative 4 core Tegra 3 bandwagon. The processor doesn't consume anymore power under typical load than dual core options. In fact in certain instances it actually consumes less, and when you need the additional performance (albeit at the price of higher power consumption) it's available. With other Cortex A9 SOC's you don't even have that option. I think Nvidia actually did a pretty damn impressive job of maintaining the advantages of both dual and quad core options while greatly minimizing the disadvantages of adding 2 additional cores(primarily power consumption). And sorry, but I don't buy into the argument that you'll never need the additional performance in a mobile device. It just seems ignorant beyond words for anyone who's observed the progression in the tech industry for more than ~5 years to say something like that.

The Tegra 3 is a reasonably priced SOC that offers good competitive performance and reasonable power consumption, especially considering it's ~10 months old now (that's practically a generation in the mobile market). Other options might offer more GPU performance, but as I stated above that comes with tradeoffs that can be far more pronounced than in desktops. And outside the A5, how many SOC's that are currently available in devices on the market have an SGX543 or 544 in them? In other words, how many Android devices use an SGX543 or 544... The last time I checked not many, and no phones, although some were on the horizon. When you look at other SOC's in Android devices the GPU in the Tegra 3 is very performance competitive.
 
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