Li-Fi delivery system

[limpwalking]

Can power-line deliver Li-Fi?

 

[nigelivey]

You question is very confusing, please ask with more detail. Powerline allows network connectivity through mains electricity wiring, LiFi (when established) allows network connectivity through LED light. How are you expecting them to work together?

 

[13thmonkey]

Li-Fi would be just a node on a network, no reason why that node couldn't be supplied by powerline. But I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for it. Why is wifi not an option?

 

[nigelivey]

So are we think hanging a LIFi LED fitting off a powerline adapter, maybe an extension cord????lol Or powerline at one end magically uses the same protocols and establishes connectivity with the LED??

 

[vmfantom]

Can power-line deliver Li-Fi?

Deliver it? No. Li-Fi is a marketing name for a low throughput type of visible light communications. 96 Mbps is the highest Li-Fi standards go at the moment. You can't convert photons into an OFDM modulated electromechanical wave with off the shelf consumer hardware.

 

[limpwalking]

So are we think hanging a LIFi LED fitting off a powerline adapter, maybe an extension cord????lol Or powerline at one end magically uses the same protocols and establishes connectivity with the LED??

The last sentence is what i'm thinking about, first idea works fine too.

 

[limpwalking]

Why is wifi not an option?

Because Li-fi can be utilized to take advantage of fiber.

 

[USAFRet]

Why is wifi not an option?

Because Li-fi can be utilized to take advantage of fiber.

So then what does a powerline device have to do with it?
You can't pump light signals through a copper wire.

 

[limpwalking]

Why is wifi not an option?

Because Li-fi can be utilized to take advantage of fiber.

So then what does a powerline device have to do with it?
You can't pump light signals through a copper wire.

That's why I came to this forum, to ask.

 

[USAFRet]

Why is wifi not an option?

Because Li-fi can be utilized to take advantage of fiber.

So then what does a powerline device have to do with it?
You can't pump light signals through a copper wire.

That's why I came to this forum, to ask.

Then the answer to your mostly confusing question..."Can power-line deliver Li-Fi? "
...is no.

Similarly, a glass fiber does not transmit electrons, nor a copper cable transmit photons.
At each terminator, there might be a conversion device.

Optical to ethernet, or ethernet to WiFi, or whatever.

But you don't transmit light (LiFi) over the electrical wiring in your house (powerline).

 

[limpwalking]

Why is wifi not an option?

Because Li-fi can be utilized to take advantage of fiber.

So then what does a powerline device have to do with it?
You can't pump light signals through a copper wire.

Why is wifi not an option?

Because Li-fi can be utilized to take advantage of fiber.

So then what does a powerline device have to do with it?
You can't pump light signals through a copper wire.

That's why I came to this forum, to ask.

Then the answer to your mostly confusing question..."Can power-line deliver Li-Fi? "
...is no.

Similarly, a glass fiber does not transmit electrons, nor a copper cable transmit photons.
At each terminator, there might be a conversion device.

Optical to ethernet, or ethernet to WiFi, or whatever.

But you don't transmit light (LiFi) over the electrical wiring in your house (powerline).

There need to be a conversion device at each terminator. The LED light and the adapter needs to have a conversion device. right?

Li-Fi don't work through walls so i was thinking of the middle-man like power-line since it's in the walls.

 

[USAFRet]

There need to be a conversion device at each terminator. The LED light and the adapter needs to have a conversion device. right?

Yes. Even if it is just the receiver on your phone or PC. A conversion device.

For instance, at my house, FiOS connection.

Fiber cable from the street to the wall of my house
Terminator conversion box
coax to the router
Terminator
ethernet (and/or WiFi) to the PC
or
powerline terminator
house electrical wiring
powerline terminator
PC

My PC can't natively use the actual glass fiber signal. It must be converted to something else along the way.

The LiFi is just another transmission type. Just like RF, WiFi, ethernet, MOCA, IR, bluetooth, powerline, whatever...each has its own benefits and drawbacks.

 

[limpwalking]

There need to be a conversion device at each terminator. The LED light and the adapter needs to have a conversion device. right?

Yes. Even if it is just the receiver on your phone or PC. A conversion device.

For instance, at my house, FiOS connection.

Fiber cable from the street to the wall of my house
Terminator conversion box
coax to the router
Terminator
ethernet (and/or WiFi) to the PC
or
powerline terminator
house electrical wiring
powerline terminator
PC

My PC can't natively use the actual glass fiber signal. It must be converted to something else along the way.

The LiFi is just another transmission type. Just like RF, WiFi, ethernet, MOCA, IR, bluetooth, powerline, whatever...each has its own benefits and drawbacks.

So can it be done because Li-Fi don't work through walls and power-line is in the walls.

 

[USAFRet]

So can it be done because Li-Fi don't work through walls and power-line is in the walls.

Sure.
Just like there are powerline devices that also speak WiFi.

Nothing magic. Just needs the proper receiver.

Can you buy one today? No.

https://www.techworld.com/data/what-is-li-fi-everything-you-need-know-3632764/

 

[limpwalking]

So can it be done because Li-Fi don't work through walls and power-line is in the walls.

Sure.
Just like there are powerline devices that also speak WiFi.

Nothing magic. Just needs the proper receiver.

Can you buy one today? No.

https://www.techworld.com/data/what-is-li-fi-everything-you-need-know-3632764/

It's been five-six years since Li-Fi is discovered why isn't it in consumer shelves already?

 

[USAFRet]

So can it be done because Li-Fi don't work through walls and power-line is in the walls.

Sure.
Just like there are powerline devices that also speak WiFi.

Nothing magic. Just needs the proper receiver.

Can you buy one today? No.

https://www.techworld.com/data/what-is-li-fi-everything-you-need-know-3632764/

It's been five-six years since Li-Fi is discovered why isn't it in consumer shelves already?

Significant drawbacks.

https://www.techworld.com/data/what-is-li-fi-everything-you-need-know-3632764/
"Li-Fi vs Wi-Fi

While some may think that Li-Fi with its 224 gigabits per second leaves Wi-Fi in the dust, Li-Fi's exclusive use of visible light could halt a mass uptake.

Li-Fi signals cannot pass through walls, so in order to enjoy full connectivity, capable LED bulbs will need to be placed throughout the home. Not to mention, Li-Fi requires the light bulb is on at all times to provide connectivity, meaning that the lights will need to be on during the day."

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What? I need to replace all the lightbulbs again?
What advantages does this give me over WiFi or Cat5e?


Just because a thing exists, does not mean it is useful for all applications and installations.

 

[limpwalking]

So can it be done because Li-Fi don't work through walls and power-line is in the walls.

Sure.
Just like there are powerline devices that also speak WiFi.

Nothing magic. Just needs the proper receiver.

Can you buy one today? No.

https://www.techworld.com/data/what-is-li-fi-everything-you-need-know-3632764/

It's been five-six years since Li-Fi is discovered why isn't it in consumer shelves already?

Significant drawbacks.

https://www.techworld.com/data/what-is-li-fi-everything-you-need-know-3632764/
"Li-Fi vs Wi-Fi

While some may think that Li-Fi with its 224 gigabits per second leaves Wi-Fi in the dust, Li-Fi's exclusive use of visible light could halt a mass uptake.

Li-Fi signals cannot pass through walls, so in order to enjoy full connectivity, capable LED bulbs will need to be placed throughout the home. Not to mention, Li-Fi requires the light bulb is on at all times to provide connectivity, meaning that the lights will need to be on during the day."

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What? I need to replace all the lightbulbs again?
What advantages does this give me over WiFi or Cat5e?


Just because a thing exists, does not mean it is useful for all applications and installations.

LOL Lazy People...
That's what light switches are for.

 

[USAFRet]

LOL Lazy People...
That's what light switches are for.

Yeah....flip the light switch, turn off the internet.
Grand idea!

 

[limpwalking]

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[limpwalking]

[video="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enisEolQXnw"][/video]And people joke about why you can't browse porn with the lights on/off... How can you even see the keyboard?

 

[limpwalking]

smart bulb socket: can this be integrated to powerline adapters to deliver li-fi? if so, why aren't manufacturers on this?

 

[hang-the-9]

smart bulb socket: can this be integrated to powerline adapters to deliver li-fi? if so, why aren't manufacturers on this?

Because WiFi exists and it works with less hassle without all the drawbacks of not being able to pass through walls. I know I don't want to have internet or network access dependent an having to put in special hardware in every room and having the lights on all the time. It's a solution looking for a problem. Sometimes research just does things without a practical need or an issue they are trying to solve and it may be decades before anything useful is done. Look at holographic data storage as a good example, been around for decades with no products you can buy https://www.photonics.com/Articles/Holographic_Data_Storage_When_Will_It_Happen/a16229 and currently https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/res...rchers-look-to-holographic-storage-solutions/

Why not contact some network companies and ask why they don't make the products you are looking for? That is the most straight-forward way of finding out.