Lian-Li's PC-Q19 Is Sleek, Slim & All-Aluminum

[N.Broekhuijsen]

Lian-Li's latest Mini-ITX chassis brings a good balance between performance and size.

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[TechieNewbie]

"The case will house a Mini-ITX motherboard, along with dual-slot graphics cards measuring up to 22 cm long (perfect for those Mini-ITX oriented graphics cards) using a PCI-Express riser card."

Seriously, why don't more ITX cases use riser cards? I've seen so many fine looking itx enclosures that are limited to having low profile cards in them when they could easily fit a full sized GPU with a riser, brace, a piece of aluminum, and like 4 pop rivets. All that would add, what, around $10 to the total cost of the case? Anyway, good to see Lian Li still know what they're doing (though the market is still in desperate need of more train enclosures).

 

[LePhuronn]

So much wasted space. This is very much form over function, trying to get away from cubes and boxy shapes. Drop the SFX PSU down level with the motherboard and you'd get another 5cm length for the GPU at half the height.

And what is it with SFF case designs still fixating on 3.5" hard drives? Yes I know laptop drives are more expensive, but these are supposed to be SMALL cases.

 

[Drejeck]

One big drive could always be useful since there are no really good storage options in the 2,5" market. Yes SSDs, and some 2TB blues, SSHDs also, but 3,5" are inexpensive and maybe appealing. You have first to break in the market, most of the people don't have "good taste". You can't sell a concept car until the market is ready to accept it. I would like to see more riser cards ITX slim cases. Lian Li and Silverstone are the top quality of cases and the price usually keeps people away from them.

 

[balister]

The need to have added an intake on the other side for the GPU to get cool air. Silly to have a grill for the CPU and for the PSU, but not for the GPU.

 

[balister]

They needed to have an intake for the GPU on this. It's pretty silly to have intakes for the CPU and PSU, but not for the GPU.

 

[jasonelmore]

"The case will house a Mini-ITX motherboard, along with dual-slot graphics cards measuring up to 22 cm long (perfect for those Mini-ITX oriented graphics cards) using a PCI-Express riser card."

Seriously, why don't more ITX cases use riser cards? I've seen so many fine looking itx enclosures that are limited to having low profile cards in them when they could easily fit a full sized GPU with a riser, brace, a piece of aluminum, and like 4 pop rivets. All that would add, what, around $10 to the total cost of the case? Anyway, good to see Lian Li still know what they're doing (though the market is still in desperate need of more train enclosures).

Riser's add latency to the GPU because the wire traces are much much longer. There is a performance impact, however no tech sites have really been interested in testing it thus far.

 

[urbanman2004]

Shit skinny as hell... looks wack

 

[Vlad Rose]

So basically this is an old style desktop put on it's side and sold as a mini-itx? It looks way too large imo vs. others like the silverstone raven rvz01b.

 

[TechieNewbie]

Riser's add latency to the GPU because the wire traces are much much longer. There is a performance impact, however no tech sites have really been interested in testing it thus far.

That's a very fair point, but I'm wondering if having the ability to put a full size GPU vs. the current low profile offerings would offset any added latency (I'm speaking directly towards the "slim" itx cases and not cube cases like the 250D, Prodigy, Carbide air 240, etc.). Could be a fun project, I might just have to give it a go.

 

[2Be_or_Not2Be]

This is a little rough-looking in regards to airflow. I can't see any intake fans, so I can only assume the CPU & GPU fans would have to be the outward-blowing type.

So if you keep the case vertical, then hot air would mostly flow up. Doesn't seem to help the GPU any, and it seems to funnel most of the hot air up to the PSU. Adding heat isn't a good thing for a PSU.

If you set the case down horizontally, not only is taking more space than you probably wanted (unless you have it as a HTPC in your entertainment stand w/nothing above it), but you also can't put things on it due to the cooling vents. The GPU would then be upside down, which would seem to make it have to work just a bit more because all of the heat expelled would still be underneath it.

So unless this system has some unknown fans somewhere to help push the heat out, this case is a no-go for me.

 

[cyb34]

Looks good for my grandmas PC.

 

[Vlad Rose]

Riser's add latency to the GPU because the wire traces are much much longer. There is a performance impact, however no tech sites have really been interested in testing it thus far.

That's a very fair point, but I'm wondering if having the ability to put a full size GPU vs. the current low profile offerings would offset any added latency (I'm speaking directly towards the "slim" itx cases and not cube cases like the 250D, Prodigy, Carbide air 240, etc.). Could be a fun project, I might just have to give it a go.

From an electrical standpoint, the wire trace lengths 'should' not make a difference viewable from a human standpoint as electricity moves at 2/3 the speed of light. Loss of power would be a bigger risk (ie, not even running). If there is noticable latency, it would be due to the extra interconnect from the board to the riser to the video card. With that said, I have a Raven RVZ01 that uses a riser card and have never noticed a difference when i switched my system to that case.

 

[ceh4702]

It is gigantic. May as well just buy a mid tower ATX case.