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In case anybody here isn't an RPG.netizen, I'd mention it here, 'cause I
think it's neat.
It's been mentioned before, here, that there is a general theory that
each Sidereal ability sutra could be linked to a Primordial, with the
most obvious linkage being The Ebon Dragon and the Scripture of the
One-Handed Maiden (Resistance). Discussion on RPG.net and reference to
a relevant discussion page on the wiki expands on the idea somewhat.
Here's a neato list of sutras and possible corresponding Primordials,
with reasoning:
The Scripture of the One-Handed Maiden (Resistance)
Once, there was a maiden...
....who struck an iron wall until it shattered her hand.
She did not stop, though cracks spread through her bones.
She did not stop, though blood sprayed her eyes.
She did not stop until she shattered the wall.
"Survival is fury," she said.
The Ebon Dragon. "The Ebon Dragon's nature is to test the limits of his
prison. He does not trust the work of the gods to contain him, for he
is that which they are not. Thus, the Yozis have given him the task of
breaking their durance, and his plans work always to free him from his
cell." -Games of Divinity page 88
The Scripture of the Eternal Maiden (Endurance)
Once, there was a maiden...
....made from a lump of iron, shaped by wind, sea, and fire.
Fearing how wood might shape her, she ran, and did not look back.
One day, she forgot what she ran from.
So, she pulled out her hear to ask it.
"Why don't you look back and see?" it said.
So, she sighed and threw her heart away.
"I have no use for beginnings," she said.
Autochthon. Autochthon contains the elements of earth, air, water, and
fire, but has no wood within him. He runs from the world, and his
heart, or at least his Eye, is separate from him.
The Scripture of Lover and Maiden (Craft)
Once, there was a maiden...
....who met a thing that lived outside the world, and there was beauty to it.
It burned with an unholy wrath that could destroy Creation.
It hated her as much as it loved her.
Its kiss was blood and perfection, for its teeth were sharp.
It offered her power, and with it, hooks to tear her soul.
With care not to burn her fingers, she took it into her life.
"Love is what you make of it," said she.
Gaia. It speaks of her relationship with Luna. There's always been
something strange about Luna. [Alternately, for a vastly more upbeat
take on the Gaia/Luna relationship, Gaia could be the Scripture of the
Bride (Linguistics).]
The Scripture of the Maiden in Chains (Occult)
Once, there was a maiden...
....and before her came all the peoples of Creation, and knelt.
They set aside their petty squabbles in her name.
They acclaimed her with many shouts.
They prayed for her safety, and her weal.
Not one of them struck free her chains.
"To know the world..."
"...is to own it," she said.
Who could it be but She Who Lives In Her Name? (Incidentally, it is an
interesting parallel, if we are considering that sorcery may have come
from the Yozis, that there are three Circles of Sorcery, and She Who
Lives In Her Name broke three of her spheres against Creation, assuming
there's something to the associating Primordials with sutras thing. I
mostly point this out because hey, this is the Occult sutra. On the
other hand, the skill with which a sutra is associated may have nothing
to do with the Yozi with which it is associated; otherwise I'd really
expect Autochthon to be linked to Crafts.)
The Scripture of the Expectant Maiden (Martial Arts)
Once, there was a maiden...
....who was always looking forward to the way things would be.
She said, "Someday, I'm getting out of this place."
"Someday, I'm going to kill that boy that put me here."
"And while I wait, I don't much mind,
'cause it's better to dream tomorrow than to be there."
....
"I'm holding at bay," she said, "what I know to be true."
"That I'll never get out. I won't let my dreams die!"
"I'll hang on to hope," she said, "until Time itself ends. But--"
"There's always an ending," said Time.
Sacheverell, He Who Knows the Shape of Things to Come. "Lucien kills
those whose deeds would awaken Sacheverell, the Demon Prince that knows
the shape of things to come, for Sacheverell's sleep is prized by gods
and Yozis alike." -Games of Divinity page 101
Source: http://www.lensmen.net/wiki/exalted.pl?InterpretingScriptures
As usual, I have not an original thought in my head, but excel at
functioning as a filter through which the thoughts of others can be
organized.
--
Stephenls
Geek
"You do your arguments no favor by insulting those you ought persuade."
--Greg Stolze, Rites of the Dragon
In case anybody here isn't an RPG.netizen, I'd mention it here, 'cause I
think it's neat.
It's been mentioned before, here, that there is a general theory that
each Sidereal ability sutra could be linked to a Primordial, with the
most obvious linkage being The Ebon Dragon and the Scripture of the
One-Handed Maiden (Resistance). Discussion on RPG.net and reference to
a relevant discussion page on the wiki expands on the idea somewhat.
Here's a neato list of sutras and possible corresponding Primordials,
with reasoning:
The Scripture of the One-Handed Maiden (Resistance)
Once, there was a maiden...
....who struck an iron wall until it shattered her hand.
She did not stop, though cracks spread through her bones.
She did not stop, though blood sprayed her eyes.
She did not stop until she shattered the wall.
"Survival is fury," she said.
The Ebon Dragon. "The Ebon Dragon's nature is to test the limits of his
prison. He does not trust the work of the gods to contain him, for he
is that which they are not. Thus, the Yozis have given him the task of
breaking their durance, and his plans work always to free him from his
cell." -Games of Divinity page 88
The Scripture of the Eternal Maiden (Endurance)
Once, there was a maiden...
....made from a lump of iron, shaped by wind, sea, and fire.
Fearing how wood might shape her, she ran, and did not look back.
One day, she forgot what she ran from.
So, she pulled out her hear to ask it.
"Why don't you look back and see?" it said.
So, she sighed and threw her heart away.
"I have no use for beginnings," she said.
Autochthon. Autochthon contains the elements of earth, air, water, and
fire, but has no wood within him. He runs from the world, and his
heart, or at least his Eye, is separate from him.
The Scripture of Lover and Maiden (Craft)
Once, there was a maiden...
....who met a thing that lived outside the world, and there was beauty to it.
It burned with an unholy wrath that could destroy Creation.
It hated her as much as it loved her.
Its kiss was blood and perfection, for its teeth were sharp.
It offered her power, and with it, hooks to tear her soul.
With care not to burn her fingers, she took it into her life.
"Love is what you make of it," said she.
Gaia. It speaks of her relationship with Luna. There's always been
something strange about Luna. [Alternately, for a vastly more upbeat
take on the Gaia/Luna relationship, Gaia could be the Scripture of the
Bride (Linguistics).]
The Scripture of the Maiden in Chains (Occult)
Once, there was a maiden...
....and before her came all the peoples of Creation, and knelt.
They set aside their petty squabbles in her name.
They acclaimed her with many shouts.
They prayed for her safety, and her weal.
Not one of them struck free her chains.
"To know the world..."
"...is to own it," she said.
Who could it be but She Who Lives In Her Name? (Incidentally, it is an
interesting parallel, if we are considering that sorcery may have come
from the Yozis, that there are three Circles of Sorcery, and She Who
Lives In Her Name broke three of her spheres against Creation, assuming
there's something to the associating Primordials with sutras thing. I
mostly point this out because hey, this is the Occult sutra. On the
other hand, the skill with which a sutra is associated may have nothing
to do with the Yozi with which it is associated; otherwise I'd really
expect Autochthon to be linked to Crafts.)
The Scripture of the Expectant Maiden (Martial Arts)
Once, there was a maiden...
....who was always looking forward to the way things would be.
She said, "Someday, I'm getting out of this place."
"Someday, I'm going to kill that boy that put me here."
"And while I wait, I don't much mind,
'cause it's better to dream tomorrow than to be there."
....
"I'm holding at bay," she said, "what I know to be true."
"That I'll never get out. I won't let my dreams die!"
"I'll hang on to hope," she said, "until Time itself ends. But--"
"There's always an ending," said Time.
Sacheverell, He Who Knows the Shape of Things to Come. "Lucien kills
those whose deeds would awaken Sacheverell, the Demon Prince that knows
the shape of things to come, for Sacheverell's sleep is prized by gods
and Yozis alike." -Games of Divinity page 101
Source: http://www.lensmen.net/wiki/exalted.pl?InterpretingScriptures
As usual, I have not an original thought in my head, but excel at
functioning as a filter through which the thoughts of others can be
organized.
--
Stephenls
Geek
"You do your arguments no favor by insulting those you ought persuade."
--Greg Stolze, Rites of the Dragon
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