[SOLVED] Looking for 4TB M.2 for my Laptop

[DANI3L]

So I recently bought this laptop:
ZenBook 14 UM433 (4000 series Ryzen)｜For Home｜Laptops ｜ASUS Global

I really love this laptop and I'm looking to upgrade the NVME (since its a 14 inch laptop there's no space for another HDD)

So I'm looking to upgrade to a 4TB M.2 NVME.

First I want to ask If my Laptop supports PCIe 4, because when I check any 4TB M.2 they all say PCIe Gen3 x4 and I get really confused...
I left the link for the laptop up there, Thanks for who will answer that question..

Now the 4TB NVMEs, I know Sabrent's NVMEs are really good, but I found 3 versions and their prices are really similar.. whats their difference ?
1.
Amazon.com: Sabrent 4TB Rocket Q4 NVMe PCIe 4.0 M.2 2280 Internal SSD Maximum Performance Solid State Drive R/W 4900/3500 MB/s (SB-RKTQ4-4TB): Computers & Accessories
2.
Amazon.com: Sabrent 4TB Rocket NVMe PCIe M.2 2280 Internal SSD High Performance Solid State Drive (SB-ROCKET-4TB): Computers & Accessories
3.
Sabrent 4TB Rocket Q M.2 2280 Internal SSD SB-RKTQ-4TB B&H Photo (bhphotovideo.com)

And also I need one with the best available temperature.. because I heard they can overheat...
Sorry for my stupid question I don't really understand about this..

 

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Mobile Ryzen 4000 series does not support Gen4 PCIe . it is has Gen 3 Lanes.

No need to pay more for Gen 4 NVME , look for GEN3 PCIE NVME

 

[DANI3L]

Mobile Ryzen 4000 series does not support Gen4 PCIe . it is has Gen 3 Lanes.

No need to pay more for Gen 4 NVME , look for GEN3 PCIE NVME

Where can I find 4tb nvme m.2 gen 3?
I saw somewhere that You can still run pcie 4 nmve but they will run at pcie 3 speeds

 

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Where can I find 4tb nvme m.2 gen 3?
I saw somewhere that You can still run pcie 4 nmve but they will run at pcie 3 speeds

1- Corsair MP400 4TB
2- Corsair MP510 4TB
3- Samsung SSD PM983 3.84TB
4- Micron 7300 pro M.2 NVME 3.84 TB

and in case you want 8TB NVME M.2

1- Corsair MP400 8TB

search for them in different sites and look for good prices and offers.

And yes Gen 4 should work on Gen 3 slots ... but I dont trust Sarbent SSD it is not a known brand for SSD

 

[DANI3L]

1- Corsair MP400 4TB
2- Corsair MP510 4TB
3- Samsung SSD PM983 3.84TB
4- Micron 7300 pro M.2 NVME 3.84 TB

and in case you want 8TB NVME M.2

1- Corsair MP400 8TB

search for them in different sites and look for good prices and offers.

And yes Gen 4 should work on Gen 3 slots ... but I dont trust Sarbent SSD it is not a known brand for SSD

But I always see YouTubers like Linus Tech Tips always recommend them for some reason...

Anyway what is the difference between the MP400 or the MP510?

 

[Deleted member 14196]

Youtubers recommend them because they’re paid to do so don’t listen to these guys

 

[USAFRet]

Question - Why 4TB?

 

[DANI3L]

Question - Why 4TB?

I'm a music producer & video editor
must of my plugins / sample packs are always in need and they are about 2 TB..
Since the OS & Softwares take some space I need more then 2TB and the only option is a 4TB NVME...
I have an external 2TB drive but its slow and its always dangaling around (or however you say that)...
I tried to stick it on the back of my laptop with a silicon pad but its just annoying and sometimes can fall...
My laptop only has one slot which is the NVME.2 one, so no way to install and internal SSD..
I knew that before I bought the laptop but its really powerful & small..
So upgrading to a 4TB nvme m.2 will be perfect for me, anyway the price isn't a big concern for me.

 

[USAFRet]

OK, just checking.

 

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Anyway what is the difference between the MP400 or the MP510?

1- MP400 has 800TBW Endurance (After 800TB of write it will stop)

and it uses Phison’s E12S NVMe SSD controller and Micron’s high density 96-layer QLC

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categ...SSDs/MP400/p/CSSD-F4000GBMP400#tab-tech-specs


2- MP510 has 6820 TBW endurance (will write 6820 Terabytes until it is dead)
it uses Phison’s E12 controller, and Toshiba’s BiCS3 TLC NAND flash

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categ...ries-MP510/p/CSSD-F4000GBMP510#tab-tech-specs

TLC is better than QLC


3- Samsung is enterprise level (with 5400TBW for 4TB) and good and cheaper but it is 110 length , I dont know if it will fit or not.

https://www.samsung.com/us/labs/pdfs/collateral/Samsung-PM983-NF1-Product-Brief-final.pdf

can be found oem only in some stores ...

Samsung PM983 in ebay link

but it is 110 length not 80 length , you need to check if it fits.

 

[USAFRet]

1- MP400 has 800TBW Endurance (After 800TB of write it will stop)

That is the warranty number.
Not when it will "stop".

Like a warranty of 5 years. It does not ":stop" on 5 years + 1 day.

 

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That is the warranty number.
Not when it will "stop".

Like a warranty of 5 years. It does not ":stop" on 5 years + 1 day.

TBW

The "W" stands for Written , not Warranty.

 

[DANI3L]

1- MP400 has 800TBW Endurance (After 800TB of write it will stop)

and it uses Phison’s E12S NVMe SSD controller and Micron’s high density 96-layer QLC

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categ...SSDs/MP400/p/CSSD-F4000GBMP400#tab-tech-specs


2- MP510 has 6820 TBW endurance (will write 6820 Terabytes until it is dead)
it uses Phison’s E12 controller, and Toshiba’s BiCS3 TLC NAND flash

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categ...ries-MP510/p/CSSD-F4000GBMP510#tab-tech-specs

TLC is better than QLC


3- Samsung is enterprise level (with 5400TBW for 4TB) and good and cheaper but it is 110 length , I dont know if it will fit or not.

https://www.samsung.com/us/labs/pdfs/collateral/Samsung-PM983-NF1-Product-Brief-final.pdf

can be found oem only in some stores ...

Samsung PM983 in ebay link

but it is 110 length not 80 length , you need to check if it fits.

My eyes are actually on the MP510, I saw some reviews on it.
The dimensions of it are standard? This 80 length will fit my laptop?
Currently my M.2 Nvme is this:
Samsung SSD PM991 OEM 512GB MZVLQ512HALU-00000 M.2 2280 NVMe

 

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My eyes are actually on the MP510, I saw some reviews on it.
The dimensions of it are standard? This 80 length will fit my laptop?
Currently my M.2 Nvme is this:
Samsung SSD PM991 OEM 512GB MZVLQ512HALU-00000 M.2 2280 NVMe

Yes the Corsair MP510 4TB is a standard M.2 2280 NVME (80mm length)

you can find all the specs here

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categ...ries-MP510/p/CSSD-F4000GBMP510#tab-tech-specs

 

[USAFRet]

TBW

The "W" stands for Written , not Warranty.

Yes, we know this.
TBW is the Total Bytes Written.
800 is the point at which is it no longer covered under warranty. The 'guaranteed' endurance.

Have YOU personally seen an SSD, of any make or model, die as it reaches whatever number is written in their warranty terms?
Similarly, age. For this drive, 5 years.

 

[DANI3L]

Yes the Corsair MP510 4TB is a standard M.2 2280 NVME (80mm length)

you can find all the specs here

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Storage/M-2-SSDs/Force-Series-MP510/p/CSSD-F4000GBMP510#tab-tech-spec

Thank you! I just ordered it from Newegg

 

[nofanneeded]

Thank you! I just ordered it from Newegg

You are welcome

 

[nofanneeded]

One more thing , Get a USB-C Nvme Enclosure to use it with your 512GB Samsung NVME SSD.
Dont waste that NVME SSD.

also this would help in making an image from the current SSD with system and files into the 4TB one.

This one is cool

https://www.newegg.com/asus-esd-s1c...closure-_-17-320-006-_-Product&quicklink=true

 

[DANI3L]

One more thing , Get a USB-C Nvme Enclosure to use it with your 512GB Samsung NVME SSD.
Dont waste that NVME SSD.

also this would help in making an image from the current SSD with system and files into the 4TB one.

This one is cool

https://www.newegg.com/asus-esd-s1c-blk-g-as-enclosure/p/N82E16817320006?Description=Asus M2 nvme enclosure&cm_re=Asus_M2 nvme enclosure--17-320-006--Product&quicklink=true

Yea I thought the same about that Already ordered one!

 

[mdd1963]

Yes, we know this.
TBW is the Total Bytes Written.
800 is the point at which is it no longer covered under warranty. The 'guaranteed' endurance.

Have YOU personally seen an SSD, of any make or model, die as it reaches whatever number is written in their warranty terms?
Similarly, age. For this drive, 5 years.

Intel's SSDs , at least models from a few years ago, upon hitting their TBW values, actually stopped allowing new writes, giving an advisory to the effect of 'exceeding authorized/warranted write totals', essentially forcing the owner to go purchase a new SSD....