Looking for a pc under $1200

[Dropment]

I feel $1200 is enough to go all out on a beast pc that will be great for years to come. Since gpu prices have come down not sure if it is worth getting a gtx 1070 ti over a 1080
Heres what im think
i7 8700 or r7 1800x
matx or atx
16gb ram 2400mhz or 3000mhz
gtx 1070 ti or 1080
ssd only will have windows and apps that i use alot
semi modular psu black cables plz
Overall im stuck on picking parts and thanks in advance to those who helped.

 

[bmockeg]

My 300mhz comments are in relation to the 8600k and 8400. I know exactly how turbo boost works.

 

[Frag Maniac]

My 300mhz comments are in relation to the 8600k and 8400. I know exactly how turbo boost works.

Yet you believe a static bench means same disparity throughout a game, and nit pick about one small typo in a bench that shows everything. Like I said, you don't understand how the bench game works. It's mostly hype when looking only at static benches.

Earlier you were comparing the 8400 to a 8700k, claiming it's almost as close, that's why I mistook your meaning for how you were comparing turbo. Your notion that a 65w chip is going to be able to hang consistently with a 95w chip is ill conceived.

Even if it came down to only a handful of games having severe frame drops over the 3 plus years I owned a CPU, I would still every time go for the $40 more one. Such components are too important in a gaming rig to be cheaping out on.

Just the fact that the 8600k is OCable makes it a no brainer, especailly at only $40 more. He may not want to OC now, but what if he finds out it is very easy to do just by a moderate OC via mulitiplier, without even touching the BLCK? He'd be stuck without that option on an 8400.

This is a big part of what makes the two chips quite a bit different than you clam. At 4.3GHz (actually more like 4.4), I've yet to play a game where I feel my 8700k would need an OC, but I knew had I settled for the 8600k, I'd at least have done a moderate OC to make it equal a 8700k.

With a Z370 MB (which start at pretty low prices now) and the 8600k, and a very simple OC, he could easily match the performance of my 8700k rig. You'd still have only 3/4 the cache of an 8700k though, so you'd have to actually bump the speed a bit higher than that of a 8700k to compensate, maybe like 3.9GHz base. With an 8400 he's stuck in budget rig land. This is why it's a chip that doesn't belong with a high end GPU like the 1080.