[SOLVED] looking for apu

[ragez0r]

please list me a zen2 apu cpu for am4 mobo... please

 

[hotaru.hino]

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/cpu/#f=108

Only one PCPP in the US side is picking up is the 4600G. Unless you need Zen 2 for some reason, I suggest getting the 5600G instead.

 

[ragez0r]

motherboard only supports zen 2

 

[DSzymborski]

motherboard only supports zen 2

I have never seen an AM4 motherboard that supports the Zen 2 APUs, but not the Zen or Zen 3 ones.

In any case, if you want people to recommend APUs that work for a specific motherboard, you should actually tell us what the motherboard is rather than making a parlor game of it.

 

[ragez0r]

msi b450m... yes it can use zen 3 but i want a zen 2 with igpu in it

 

[CountMike]

msi b450m... yes it can use zen 3 but i want a zen 2 with igpu in it

AMD Ryzen 5 3400G

 

[SkyNetRising]

msi b450m... yes it can use zen 3 but i want a zen 2 with igpu in it

That's not a full model name.
There are 16 matching models.
https://www.msi.com/search/msi b450m?page=1&type=8

 

[--SID--]

AMD Ryzen 5 3400G

That's a Zen+

 

[ragez0r]

AMD Ryzen 5 3400G

THANK YOU

 

[ragez0r]

THANK YOU

guess zen+ isnt compatible ?

 

[Darkbreeze]

How would anybody know, you STILL haven't posted the ACTUAL motherboard model? B450m is NOT a motherboard model. It needs to be something like B450m-A, or whatever the model is, but all B450m tells us is that it is a B450 chipset and that it is a microATX form factor. There is nothing there that explains what the model is.

And for only 28 dollars more than the 4600G, I agree with the first reply here. No way if I needed an APU for AM4 I'd be looking at anything other than the 5600G. It outperforms the rest of the AM4 APUs in cost versus performance and it isn't even a competition.

 

[hotaru.hino]

I'm going to guess this is OP's motherboard, because it's the only one that doesn't support Zen 3: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450M-PRO-M2-V2/support#cpu

 

[Darkbreeze]

Huh. That's crazy. I didn't think there even were any B450 boards that never got Zen3 support. Hate to say it, but it must be a REALLY low end board because it can't just be due to the ROM size. If they can eliminate Bristol ridge and lower to include support for newer models then they could do the same for the next step up.

 

[DSzymborski]

guess zen+ isnt compatible ?

That would be highly unusual. But we still don't actually know what your motherboard actually is. For obvious reasons, that may have a significant negative effect on the accuracy of answers because you're making us play psychic detective.

 

[Karadjgne]

[SOLVED] - B450m motherboards for zen 3

Hi i have a question in mind. According to the 3rd point in this post View: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/gmp45o/the_zen_3_architecture_is_coming_to_amd_x470_and/ which is "The select beta BIOSes will enable a one-way upgrade path for AMD Ryzen Processors with “Zen 3,” coming later...

forums.tomshardware.com

In other words, if you want a Zen3 compatible bios, ask MSI if there's a bios version for specific download, as it's very probable that there is, it's just not publicly accessible. Wouldn't be the first time this was done to prevent the general public from bricking a bios, since it's a one way trip with no reversal. It'll be Zen3 and Only Zen3, but will then support the 5000 series cpus.

 

[CountMike]

OP was adamant about Zen2 for whatever the reason why question it ?

 

[Karadjgne]

3600G is the best APU that board publicly supports, so that would normally be the extent of knowledge that most Op's would be expected to know. However there does exist a possibility of an upgraded, non publicly announced bios that would allow Op for almost the same price and some emails that they could use an APU on more of a performance and ability level of an imaginary 3900tiG, the 5600G. OP may or may not be aware of that possibility.

 

[Darkbreeze]

OP was adamant about Zen2 for whatever the reason why question it ?

Lots of people are adamant about a lot of things, thinking they already know all there is to know about it, when in fact they know very little, so it's ALWAYS a good idea to question things that seem off or inaccurate. That might not be the case here, but there is equally the fact that if somebody can't provide the simple information asked for before people start slinging answers at the wall to see what sticks then they aren't really looking for intelligent answers to begin with.

 

[CountMike]

Lots of people are adamant about a lot of things, thinking they already know all there is to know about it, when in fact they know very little, so it's ALWAYS a good idea to question things that seem off or inaccurate. That might not be the case here, but there is equally the fact that if somebody can't provide the simple information asked for before people start slinging answers at the wall to see what sticks then they aren't really looking for intelligent answers to begin with.

Many also do but even if not I don't feel I should try to change somebody's mind, may be disrespectful.

 

[Karadjgne]

Many also do but even if not I don't feel I should try to change somebody's mind, may be disrespectful.

That's kinda subjective. If you walk around the site, you'll see plenty of posts where ppl are offered an alternative, whether that's build advice on a budget, talking someone out of a custom loop, offering a better alternative for cheaper with a gpu, buying overly expensive motherboards etc. Ppl may or may not be looking for alternatives, but it's also generally in their best interest that they have an option especially if there's a valid reason for the option. Then it's on them.

Some would argue that not supplying an alternative would be doing the Op a gross disservice as the value of their aim is far less than an alternative, when you are in a position to know of a better alternative solution with much higher value, that would serve them better, for longer, and don't tell them.

For instance, if I'd known Op was planning on purchasing that particular mobo, with maybe possibilities of upgrading the cpu, I'd have tried to find a way to talk him out of that particular board, as it has no public accessibility to 5000 series cpus, even being a B450 chipset. Even a few $ more for a better mobo, and this discussion would have ended multiple posts ago with the posting of 5600G.