Looking to buy a graphics card!

[Baily Case]

I'm going to buy my first graphics card. (getting sick of the on-board graphics) I've searched and searched and it came down to these two, but i'll accept anymore that you guys can suggest to me.
Option One= http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102942&cm_re=radeon_6570-_-14-102-942-_-Product

Option Two= http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127683&cm_re=geoforce_gt_630-_-14-127-683-_-Product

I'm looking to play games like Modded Minecraft,COD, Fallout New Vegas, Battlefield 4 (maybe because of the prices?) Team Fortress 2

Medium to High graphics on Fallout and TF2

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

The max I want to spend is about 65$

 

[SHADE117]

for a bf4 GPU you´re going to have to pay atleast 150$ those cards you selected can´t do much more than HD video playback

 

[Baily Case]

for a bf4 GPU you´re going to have to pay atleast 150$ those cards you selected can´t do much more than HD video playback

I figured as much. That's fine. But looking at some videos on YouTube the Sapphire was running smoothly on most games I listed. Besides BF4

 

[Baily Case]

It ran Watch Dogs on Med. Graphics? http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8ng_OLIgXFZ7BTJN-5p_rw

 

[SHADE117]

for a bf4 GPU you´re going to have to pay atleast 150$ those cards you selected can´t do much more than HD video playback

I figured as much. That's fine. But looking at some videos on YouTube the Sapphire was running smoothly on most games I listed. Besides BF4

yea but those cards are already like 4-5 years old any new games you might want to play simply wont work

 

[Baily Case]

for a bf4 GPU you´re going to have to pay atleast 150$ those cards you selected can´t do much more than HD video playback

I figured as much. That's fine. But looking at some videos on YouTube the Sapphire was running smoothly on most games I listed. Besides BF4

yea but those cards are already like 4-5 years old any new games you might want to play simply wont work

Yeah I know that. Just check this channel out. He's playing some games that I expect to play if I buy the card. http://www.youtube.com/user/punkcoredz/videos

 

[GetOwnedGaming]

I would spend $150 and get a GTX 750 ti

 

[SHADE117]

for a bf4 GPU you´re going to have to pay atleast 150$ those cards you selected can´t do much more than HD video playback

I figured as much. That's fine. But looking at some videos on YouTube the Sapphire was running smoothly on most games I listed. Besides BF4

yea but those cards are already like 4-5 years old any new games you might want to play simply wont work

Yeah I know that. Just check this channel out. He's playing some games that I expect to play if I buy the card. http://www.youtube.com/user/punkcoredz/videos

yea...hmm... the FPS is total turd though those cards may be cheap but they just don´t cut it anymore do you have a 1080p monitor? or 720p that makes a huge diference too you can max out all settings all day if you play at a tiny reolution

 

[Baily Case]

for a bf4 GPU you´re going to have to pay atleast 150$ those cards you selected can´t do much more than HD video playback

I figured as much. That's fine. But looking at some videos on YouTube the Sapphire was running smoothly on most games I listed. Besides BF4

yea but those cards are already like 4-5 years old any new games you might want to play simply wont work

Yeah I know that. Just check this channel out. He's playing some games that I expect to play if I buy the card. http://www.youtube.com/user/punkcoredz/videos

yea...hmm... the FPS is total turd though those cards may be cheap but they just don´t cut it anymore do you have a 1080p monitor? or 720p that makes a huge diference too you can max out all settings all day if you play at a tiny reolution

This is the monitor i'm currently using http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009127
Sorry forgot to post the link

 

[Baily Case]

I would spend $150 and get a GTX 750 ti

I don't have the money for that though! I'm doing a rebuild of my PC soon which is why I need help!

 

[SHADE117]

I would spend $150 and get a GTX 750 ti

I don't have the money for that though! I'm doing a rebuild of my PC soon which is why I need help!

you might be able to find a GTX 650 for less than 100$

 

[Baily Case]

I would spend $150 and get a GTX 750 ti

I don't have the money for that though! I'm doing a rebuild of my PC soon which is why I need help!

you might be able to find a GTX 650 for less than 100$

I'd really like to stay in the range of 65$ But i'm looking

 

[Baily Case]

I'm just looking for a card to play medium games such as TF2 on med-high graphics and that's all. I don't need a big expensive card yet.

 

[BigBadBeef]

My old rig's radeon HD 6570 DDR3 1GB can handle fallout 3 max graphics, I believe any of the cards you intend to buy would be... "enough".

 

[Baily Case]

My old rig's radeon HD 6570 DDR3 1GB can handle fallout 3 max graphics, I believe any of the cards you intend to buy would be... "enough".

I'm not as experienced as I want to be in graphics cards so why does memory on a graphics card matter?

 

[BigBadBeef]

Well what is your short-term memory for?

Memory is used on graphics card to store information pertaining to textures and models for buffering. The higher the resolution, the more textures and models they need to display, the same goes with higher quality textures in and of themselves.

 

[Baily Case]

Well what is your short-term memory for?

Memory is used on graphics card to store information pertaining to textures and models for buffering. The higher the resolution, the more textures and models they need to display, the same goes with higher quality textures in and of themselves.

Ahhh. Okay, thanks. So I should go with the 6570 rather than the 630?

 

[BigBadBeef]

See if you can find a GDDR5 variant of these 2 cards, that memory is faster.

 

[Baily Case]

See if you can find a GDDR5 variant of these 2 cards, that memory is faster.

Found these
1. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133459
2. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130868

 

[bccorrupt]

See if you can find a GDDR5 variant of these 2 cards, that memory is faster.

Found these
1. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133459
2. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130868

If you have to keep the budget that low, at least go with a gddr5 model like was mentioned already. There's a 30-50% increase in framerates in benchmarks with most cards of the same model but ddr5 instead of ddr3.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202053
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500308

 

[Baily Case]

Also forgot to put my processor.... If that will even help with finding a good card. AMD Phenom 9600 Quad-Core 2.30 GHz

 

[bccorrupt]

Any card under $100 will still be the bottleneck with that processor, especially anything ddr3.

 

[Baily Case]

Any card under $100 will still be the bottleneck with that processor, especially anything ddr3.

Bottleneck? What will happen?

 

[bccorrupt]

It just means that your framerates are going to be restricted by the speed of the card before the rest of the computer. Basically when you're playing a game your GPU may be running at 100%, but your CPU at 50%. If you spent $250 on a gtx760, then it would be reversed, with your CPU now running at 100% trying to keep up, but the GPU lazily running at 50%. Something will always be the bottleneck to some degree depending on the situation.

 

[Baily Case]

It just means that your framerates are going to be restricted by the speed of the card before the rest of the computer. Basically when you're playing a game your GPU may be running at 100%, but your CPU at 50%. If you spent $250 on a gtx760, then it would be reversed, with your CPU now running at 100% trying to keep up, but the GPU lazily running at 50%. Something will always be the bottleneck to some degree depending on the situation.

So how much would I have to spend to make it equal? Where there is no bottleneck?