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Dreadbeard

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Hello, I’m potentially looking at updating to a whole new system, from my current *listed in sig* to something like the following
At the moment I’m gaming at 1440p with my current system, and am finding newer games are getting lower and lower frames, at the moment specifically remnant 2 *I know it isn’t optimised super well* but I’m looking to go up to a system that shouldn’t have issues in any game with the possibility of going to 4k at some point, would this be a good deal? I’ve seen a few different variations on this build, but most come with around an 850w psu, I feel the 1000w will be more capable with the 5 ish storage devices I will add from my current system
If you have any other suggestions I’d be happy to hear them, even if it’s an amd system, I want to get the maximum performance possible in games at 1440p at the moment
I’m aware this maybe an extremely expensive investment that’s why I’m only considering it at this point, thanks all.
Or am I crazy for wanting to upgrade?

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TBH you pretty much never see a 13900K recommended for a gaming build due to a few facts such as that cpu runs hot, requires a 420 AIO to get the most out of that cpu and most of all it only gets a few more frames per second than the 13 gen i7.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700F 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor (£350.39 @ Newegg UK)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG620 BK ARGB 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler (£57.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: *MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (£155.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory (£129.12 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: *Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£114.98 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: *Gigabyte GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card (£1607.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL III RGB ATX Mid Tower Case (£162.98 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Power Supply: *MSI A1000G PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£159.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Operating System: *Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit (£109.99 @ AWD-IT)
Total: £2848.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-25 03:04 BST+0100

https://lian-li.com/product/lancool-iii/

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zE9Rg6wGvA
 
Why_Me said:
TBH you pretty much never see a 13900K recommended for a gaming build due to a few facts such as that cpu runs hot, requires a 420 AIO to get the most out of that cpu and most of all it only gets a few more frames per second than the 13 gen i7.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700F 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor (£350.39 @ Newegg UK)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG620 BK ARGB 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler (£57.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: *MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (£155.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory (£129.12 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: *Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£114.98 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: *Gigabyte GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card (£1607.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL III RGB ATX Mid Tower Case (£162.98 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Power Supply: *MSI A1000G PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£159.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Operating System: *Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit (£109.99 @ AWD-IT)
Total: £2848.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-25 03:04 BST+0100

https://lian-li.com/product/lancool-iii/

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zE9Rg6wGvA
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Gotcha! I like the build you have listed quite a lot, my issue is - I don’t want to build it myself, whilst I do know how and have done previously, I want to be able to get a warranty on the whole system just incase something went wrong, plus having the added cable management *something I’m terrible at* is a bonus.
However I have noted that the cpu can run hot, and I can change it out in the build I linked for the i7 you listed - is the 13700 the current best intel cpu? Is there a amd cpu that does it better? Looking for all options to future proof *as much as possible*
And is it worth it to jump up to such a a system from my current one? Especially for 1440p currently
 
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arctic freezer ii 420mm aio is probably the best AIO on the market at its price point ( not the best looking )
13900k with a 4090 i would go 1000w platinum1200w psu would be a better choice to be safe ..
240mm on a 13900k is like strapping AMD wrath box cooler on to a 7950x pure stupidity !!
 
Dreadbeard said:
Gotcha! I like the build you have listed quite a lot, my issue is - I don’t want to build it myself, whilst I do know how and have done previously, I want to be able to get a warranty on the whole system just incase something went wrong, plus having the added cable management *something I’m terrible at* is a bonus.
However I have noted that the cpu can run hot, and I can change it out in the build I linked for the i7 you listed - is the 13700 the current best intel cpu? Is there a amd cpu that does it better? Looking for all options to future proof *as much as possible*
And is it worth it to jump up to such a a system from my current one? Especially for 1440p currently
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building is super easy there are like a bazillion videos on youtube on how to do it ..
i was skeptical before i built my first now its like super easy and heaps of fun and saves you heaps of money also alot of fun searching different parts on sale comparing stats etc etc ..
remember the fundamentals solid cpu cooling and decent psu wattage and have fun !!
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if gaming is your only thing 7800x3d is better and cheaper than the 13700k and 13900k in alot of cases that said though AM5 socket life is what id be buying AMD for over 13th gen !!
another better option is if your going a 4090 and looking at 4k a 7700 non x decent x670e for life span and will do 4k gaming all day long save on cost cooling and power draw !!
 
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Dreadbeard said:
Gotcha! I like the build you have listed quite a lot, my issue is - I don’t want to build it myself, whilst I do know how and have done previously, I want to be able to get a warranty on the whole system just incase something went wrong, plus having the added cable management *something I’m terrible at* is a bonus.
However I have noted that the cpu can run hot, and I can change it out in the build I linked for the i7 you listed - is the 13700 the current best intel cpu? Is there a amd cpu that does it better? Looking for all options to future proof *as much as possible*
And is it worth it to jump up to such a a system from my current one? Especially for 1440p currently
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The 13700 / 13700F is an ideal gaming cpu. ^^
 
Here’s an updated build - how does this look?
I’m thinking it could likely have some price cut somewhere
```ini
Case = Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic Evo Gaming Case - Black
Extra_Fans = None Selected
CPU = Intel® Core™ i7-13700KF - 16-Core [8P @ 3.40GHz-5.40GHz / 8E @ 2.50GHz-4.20GHz] - 30MB Cache, Ultimate OC Compatible
Overclocking = No Overclocking
Cooler = Corsair iCUE H150i RGB ELITE 360mm Liquid Cooler, Ultimate OC Compatible
Motherboard = MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI: ATX w/ PCIe 5.0, Wi-Fi 6E, USB 3.2 Gen 2x2
M2 = 2TB WD Black SN850X M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD - 7300MB/s Read & 6600MB/s Write Single Drive
M2nd = 2TB (1x2TB) WD Black SN770 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD - 5150MB/s Read & 4850MB/s Write Single Drive
SSD = 2TB Samsung 870 QVO 2.5" SSD - 560MB/s Read / 530MB/s Write 1 Drive
HDD = 4TB Seagate BarraCuda SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 5400RPM Hard Drive 1 Drive
RAID = None Selected
RAM = 64GB (2x32GB) DDR5/5600mhz Corsair Vengeance RGB Memory
GPU = MSI GeForce® RTX 4090 SUPRIM 24GB - Ray Tracing Technology, DX12®, VR Ready, HDMI, DP - 4 MIN. Monitor Support Single Card
PSU = Corsair HX1000i 1000W 80+ Ultra-Low Noise ATX 3.0 Platinum Modular Gaming Power Supply
PSU_Braided_Cables = None Selected
Wifi = None Selected

[Total Price]
PRICE = 3348

[https://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/...ource=discord&utm_medium=social&utm_id=shared]
```
 
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Zerk2012 said:
If your going to a 4K monitor the processor is not going to matter much.
I would probably just upgrade the power supply, get a 4090 and go ahead and buy a 4K monitor.
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I’m not looking to move up to 4k just yet, the idea is to have the system ready for 4k when I would like to bump up, hence why I’ve made this system like this, pushing as much power as I can for the time being, I feel like this setup would be pretty much my dream build, having the most performance I could get, with enough storage for all the games and stuff I want
 
Why_Me said:
13700K = unlocked with integrated graphics
13700KF = unlocked with no integrated graphics
13700 = locked with integrated graphic
13700F = locked with no integrated graphics
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Thank you, I’m likely to go for the k, I have a further question, I’ve heard the i7 13700 series run incredibly hot? So much so they throttle a lot? Is this true?
Should I be looking into one of the bigger amd cpus? For instance the 7950x3d? Or will a 360mm aio cool the 13700 efficiently ?
 
Dreadbeard said:
Thank you, I’m likely to go for the k, I have a further question, I’ve heard the i7 13700 series run incredibly hot? So much so they throttle a lot? Is this true?
Should I be looking into one of the bigger amd cpus? For instance the 7950x3d? Or will a 360mm aio cool the 13700 efficiently ?
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The locked cpu's such as the 13700 / 13700F run cool as a cucumber while giving you similar performance.
 
Dreadbeard said:
Yeah i know the 13700 and f are slightly lower in clocks tho, which is why im looking at the k, I want to push as much as I absolutely can out of the system
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This is the difference between the locked 12 gen i7 and unlocked 12 gen i7 ... a whopping one frame per second on average and I doubt it's any different with the 13 gen cpu's.

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I am so incredibly confused as to what to do at this point - I’ve had people say to use the 13700k, the f, that the i9 13900k runs hot, same with the i7 k, some people said to use the r7900x3d or such - I’m super lost in it all, I have decided I will run at 4k so now I just need to figure out the cpu thing
I can only select up to 32gb or 6000mhz ram but can get 64 at 5600 MHz I’m just confused where to go, I will put a 360mm aio on which ever cpu I’m reccomended hoping itl cool it sufficiently,
I have two extra questions -
Is this a good 4k monitor to get - 27" Cooler Master GP27U 1MS 160Hz UHD 4K HDMI / DP / USB Flat IPS Mini-LED & FreeSync Premium Monitor
Will a 4090 gaming x trio or suprim fit in a lian li eco dynamic case?
Thanks for the advice and such hopefully someone can clear it up for me
 
Dreadbeard said:
Yeah i know the 13700 and f are slightly lower in clocks tho, which is why im looking at the k, I want to push as much as I absolutely can out of the system
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Your link don't show all of your changes ( yes you posted the wrong link that don't include your change as the price says 2400), but dump the KF processor and get the K, if your video card fails your PC is 100% down with the F processor.

As far I I know that case comes with 0 fans so those need to be added.

For mainly a gaming PC your drive selection is messed up.

EDIT don't buy extras from them like a monitor look at the price they charge and what it cost somewhere else
 
Zerk2012 said:
Your link don't show all of your changes ( yes you posted the wrong link that don't include your change as the price says 2400), but dump the KF processor and get the K, if your video card fails your PC is 100% down with the F processor.

As far I I know that case comes with 0 fans so those need to be added.

For mainly a gaming PC your drive selection is messed up.

EDIT don't buy extras from them like a monitor look at the price they charge and what it cost somewhere else
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I have added 6 fans to the build, as well as the 360mm aio, I’m not sure why the link doesn’t show how I have it setup I’ll look into that,​

Can you explain why the drive selection is messed up?
The alternative monitor I’m looking at is similar in price, but on the top of the list from Tim’s hardware and that’s this one -
www.tomshardware.com

Dell G3223Q 32-inch 4K Gaming Monitor Review: Exceptional Color Accuracy And Speed

A 32-inch 4K IPS gaming monitor with 144 Hz, Adaptive-Sync, HDR 600 and extended color
www.tomshardware.com www.tomshardware.com
Okay so I should buy the k variant of the cpu for it, will a 360mm aio be able to keep it sufficiently cool as I’ve heard they tend to throttle themselfs alot
 
Dreadbeard said:
Thank you, I’m likely to go for the k, I have a further question, I’ve heard the i7 13700 series run incredibly hot? So much so they throttle a lot? Is this true?
Should I be looking into one of the bigger amd cpus? For instance the 7950x3d? Or will a 360mm aio cool the 13700 efficiently ?
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I have a 13700K - It doesnt get above 55/65C under load in games with my 360 AIO.
 
Zerk2012 said:
Your link don't show all of your changes ( yes you posted the wrong link that don't include your change as the price says 2400), but dump the KF processor and get the K, if your video card fails your PC is 100% down with the F processor.

As far I I know that case comes with 0 fans so those need to be added.

For mainly a gaming PC your drive selection is messed up.

EDIT don't buy extras from them like a monitor look at the price they charge and what it cost somewhere else
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Adding a further response to the bit about the monitor, the monitor listed with them is £660, that same monitor else where is near enough £800
 
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