Looking to upgrade. GeForce 780ti is dead, long live the new GeForce (or AMD?).

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Dear all,

I am looking to upgrade my five years old PC.

Initially, I have planned to upgrade after the cryptocurrency craze is over but my GPU recently died (meh).
I need some help with what would be the best course of action. What should I replace (apart from GPU - I think I have to wait for 1070 prices to drop down. Otherwise it would be a side-grade, right?).
Regarding budget... well I would love to say it's unlimited but unfortunately, there are limits. I would target mid-range options., although I would not mind spending more money if it happens to be worth the extra pounds.


Power Supply 750W EVGA Gold 80PLUS (recently upgraded from 620W Seasonic Evo Bronze)
Motherboard MSI Z87M-G43 - motherboard - micro ATX - LGA1150 Socket - Z87 - LGA1150 Socket
Processor Intel Core i7 4770K, 1150, Quad Core, 3.5GHz,
Processor Cooler NZXT Kraken X31 120mm Variable Speed Liquid Cooler (Upgraded from Corsair Hydro Series H80 [was noisy])
Memory 16GB DDR3 1600mhz Kit
Solid State Drive 1x 128GB 1x 255
Hard Disk Drive 1TB (getting another one soon)
Graphics EVGA GeForce GTX780Ti Superclock 3072MB GDDR5 (It has died 🙁)
Sound Onboard Sound (thinking of getting Creative Sound Blaster Z )
Operating System Windows 10 64bit
Monitor 27" IPS Widescreen Monitor VGA + HDMI

My PC is mainly used for gaming and work (MATLAB, SPSS, InDesign etc.). Sometimes my partner uses my PC for her architecture stuff (Vectorworks, Lumion Pro, Rhino, V-ray).


Thanks for all your help.
 
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I can't say I agree with you. As far as Intel, amd performance is a lot better than it used to be. Plus they are releasing new CPUs pretty shortly, like the next few months.

As far as GPUs, it depends. They are getting better about drivers. One thing I'll say I've noticed, and I've run both Nvidia and AMD cards, AMD cards imo sometimes seem to age better. Case in point, I bought back in 2013 or 2014 a used reason 7950 for 120 dollars, which at that time was a pretty potent card. I ran that until last year, and sold it.

From what I could tell, I still was close in performance with a GTX 1050ti. I think AMD may be getting better on drivers, but they still have work to do for sure. Nvidia is generally very good on driver...
No a 1070 is about 40% faster than a 780 Ti.

If you were happy with your current performance a 1060 6GB is more of a side-grade.

The prices do suck though. That's really a tough call.

I would just come up with the amount you are actually comfortable spending and go from there.
 
GPU prices are insane right now. To give you an idea, I had an RX 480 8gb I paid 250 for last year, just sold on eBay for 365. We just moved to a new place and I'm in need of a new lawn mower. So after selling my card, I've got roughly 200 to get another card, then I'll have money left to go towards a mower.

What is sad though, is last year, a GTX 1050ti was about 140 dollars. Now I'm looking at 200 or just over. Even the RX 560 for a decent 4gb model is going to be 170 or so.
 
I can't say I agree with you. As far as Intel, amd performance is a lot better than it used to be. Plus they are releasing new CPUs pretty shortly, like the next few months.

As far as GPUs, it depends. They are getting better about drivers. One thing I'll say I've noticed, and I've run both Nvidia and AMD cards, AMD cards imo sometimes seem to age better. Case in point, I bought back in 2013 or 2014 a used reason 7950 for 120 dollars, which at that time was a pretty potent card. I ran that until last year, and sold it.

From what I could tell, I still was close in performance with a GTX 1050ti. I think AMD may be getting better on drivers, but they still have work to do for sure. Nvidia is generally very good on driver support and can get the most out of a card the day off release. It seems with AMD that they have to over engineer their cards so that they can compete when they first are released. However, it seems as the cards get older, that the AMD cards sometimes hold up better as AMD finally releases better drivers that actually take advantage of what the cards can do.

I'll say that when I go to buy a card, I'll probably pick up a GTX 1050ti due to performance being better right now. But you notice even the RX 560 starts to gain ground on dx 12 titles. Your winner in say a year or 2 how it will look if AMD refined their drivers more.

Just some observations I've had the last few years.
 
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Go fr a used 980ti....980ti has performance similar to that of a 1070....nd u can find it in used market fr around $250-330 which is still a bargain considering the price hike of gpus due to cryptocurrency mining
 
Exactly how much are we talking about?
Prices are still silly, but I've noticed they seem to be coming down here in the UK but both price and availability vary wildly.
As has been said a GTX1060 is basically a replacement while anything higher is an upgrade.,
You may want to consider the systems working performance as well as its gaming prowess, if your software can use CUDA or more basic GPU acceleration a faster and more expensive card may make more sense than just a direct replacement/sidegrade ( could it count as a business/work expense your accountant could deduct? ).
 
Thanks guys for all your answers, all of you are really helpful! Much appreciated.

To answer coozie7 question, I would settle for about £350-£450. Even though I don't mind paying so much, I do mind overpaying, so ideally I a GPU would cost a price that was not affected by the mining craze.
 
Bad news is that with the current market conditions you're going to be stuck with a GTX 1060 unless you look very, very hard AND score a good deal, a quick check through my usual suspects shows GTX 1070s are at a minimum of <>£520-slightly more than I paid last year for my '1080! 🙁
Depending on the software situation, working needs and gaming aims you might be better off grabbing a used part off E-bay or Gumtree and holding off on a larger upgrade/replacement until this cryptocurrency madness ends.
 
Just be careful if you go used. With the current market right now, with all the miners out there, who knows how a card has really been treated. Not only that but I've been perusing eBay for a card myself and have come across some shady looking GTX 960 cards that I tend to doubt they are legit. So be wary.

You might even just do as I am and grab a stop gap card now and upgrade when prices come down to reasonable levels again.