Looking to upgrade my CPU

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What i'm looking fpr
I'm looking to upgrade my CPU. I'm planning to do some streaming of League of Legends probably as my only game. I can currently stream at 720p@30fps, however, my temperatures are reaching 64-65 degrees during this (probably because of the dual core) and in general, I'd also like to have better cooling, as I currently only have the Intel stock cooler which is attached by 3 pins (the fourth pin broke off when I was applying new thermal paste, so it isn't cooling as well as it should be). I'm only looking to replace my CPU, however, if it is worth it, I may be willing to upgrade the motherboard as well.

Suggestions i've currently received
I've received the suggestions of purchasing an i5-6500 and i5-6600k both of which are in my budget range and I wouldn't have to purchase a new motherboard with either of them.

I have also received suggestions of purchasing an i3-8100, as well as an i3-8500, however, with both of these, I would need to get a new motherboard, and also, one person said that upgrading to the i3-8100 wouldn't be much of an upgrade, and it would be more of a sidegrade.

I have also received the suggestion of getting an AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6 core processor along with the GIGABYTE GA-AB350 motherboard, which would cost me 218 pounds.

Budget and country of purchase
My budget is around 200 pounds, and I'd be buying in the UK.

Thanks
 
Solution
^ that makes more sense, you'll get £50-60 for your current cpu & board if you sell it.

Your upgrade to a current socket & cpu comes in at £140-150 then.

As asoroka said, if you want to get a new/'recent' generation CPU you will have to account for buying new DDR4 RAM. As the standard is 8GB of RAM to do anything worthwhile with your PC, you will have to go over your budget unless you scale down what kind of CPU you buy, as well as the motherboard.

Personally, in your case, I would go with the 6600k, having to buy new DDR4 RAM will really push you out of budget.
 


He would most likely go over budget because of having to buy DDR4 RAM. If he needs the upgrade now he's better off getting the 6600k, or wait for sometime to be able to upgrade to Ryzen, which has my pick also.
 


Already have DDR4 RAM, 8GB of it as well. https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/7tBKhy
 
I kind of disagree about the Ryzen suggestion. You may have DDR4, but Ryzen performs best with higher speed RAM, while an Intel processor should cope better with your existing DDR4-2133.

My suggestion would be for at least a quad-core i3-8100 with a new motherboard, which will be very similar in performance to an i5-6600. An i5-6500 might be around 10% slower, while an i5-6600K around 10% faster at stock clocks, but at a much higher price, unless perhaps you find some significantly better pricing on the used market.

Or, if you're willing to spend a little more, go for a six-core i5-8400, which will perform comparable to an i5-6600K at stock clocks, but has two more cores, which will make it better suited for streaming, and probably keep your system relevant for longer with newer games, provided you also do a graphics card upgrade at some point in the future.
 
£200 budget ? Future proof yourself,with either of these 2 options.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor (£147.97 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI - H310M PRO-VDH Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£49.98 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £197.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-12 16:01 BST+0100

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (£142.79 @ Alza)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350M-DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£61.98 @ PC World Business)
Total: £204.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-12 16:02 BST+0100
 


Would upgrading to the i3-8100 be an "upgrade"? I asked some other people and some said that it'd be more of a sidegrade rather than an upgrade based on my current specs. Also, for some reason the price difference between the i5-6500 and i5-6600k is only 4 pounds, as the 6500 is 159 and the 6600k 163. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-BX80662I56600K-i5-6600K-LGA1151-3-5-3-9/dp/B010T6DCBS Unless this is some lower end i5-6600k.
 
You don't get a cooler with the 6600k so need to add £20 for one.

The i3 8100 is in between an i5 6500 & 6600k (the new i3 is a fully fledged quad core)

Irregardless you are better upgrading fully to either of the options I mentioned.

You'll get £80-100 back for your current cpu & board second hand.
 


Where would you rate the i5-8400 amongst those? And also, I read on a few places that Ryzen is better at multitasking and stuff like rendering, streaming etc and streaming is a thing that i'd like to do. Is this true, and how well would the i5-8400 compare to the Ryzen you mentioned?
 

Intel increased core counts for their "8th gen" Core processors to better compete with AMD's Ryzen, so the new i3 processors now have performance comparable to the previous generation i5s, and the new i5s have performance comparable to previous i7s. As a result, an i3-8100 ends up being similar in performance to an i5-6600. That would be somewhat of an improvement over what you have, since it has 4 physical cores, rather than just 2 cores with hyperthreading, like your current i3.

However, I agree that for streaming, and to keep your system relevant longer, it may be worth spending a bit more for a 6-core processor. Compared to processors from your current CPU's generation, the 6-core i5-8400 will be most similar in overall performance to an i7-6700K at stock (non-overclocked) settings. In addition to having more cores, it should also be around 10% faster per-core compared to your current processor.
 


This may/may not be relevant for OP, but the AM4 motherboard will be supported until 2020, with Ryzen 3 series, with vastly improved number of IPC, and of course even greater multi-core performance coming out next year, along with another refresh in 2020. Just something to note.
 


What would you say about getting a second hand i7-6700k? I think i'm going to rule out Ryzen as I'm not entirely sure if I will be streaming much, and I may end up streaming a few times and then never again, however, i'm just wondering whether the i7-6700k won't be a bit overkill as I've only got a GTX 950 for a GPU.

 
How much is it compared to an i5-8400? I wouldn't bother if it costs as much as an 8400+motherboard. Also keep in mind that as an unlocked "K" processor, Intel doesn't include a cooler for it, so the second-hand one probably won't have one either, and your existing i3 cooler wouldn't be good enough, so you would likely need one of those as well. The 8400, on the other hand, includes a stock cooler. Your current motherboard can't be used for overclocking either.
 


The prices seem to be between 125-170 pounds on second hand ones on Ebay. I didn't think about not being able to overclock, not that I was going to anyway, but it'd probably be a waste to even get a "k" processor then.
 


I think i'll probably go for the i5 8400 + motherboard then.
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/7NvgP3 < - This is what my full build would look like with this. Already got everything there, would just need to get the CPU & Motherboard.