Looking to upgrade my system...

[jcrog]

I currently have:

AMD Phenom 9850 BE
XIGMATEK LOKI SD963 92mm HYPRO Bearing CPU Cooler
GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-DS4 Motherboard
G. SKILL 4 GB UDIMM 800 MHz PC2-6400 DDR2 Memory (F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ)
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)
CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-550VX 550W
MSI Radeon HD 5770
Mushkin Enhanced ECO3 2.5" 480GB SATA III TLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
SAMSUNG 850 EVO 2.5" 500GB SATA III 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
Some Generic Case

I plan to keep the SSDs, PSU and probably the case. But everything else needs replaced. Looking to spend $500 - $650. Open to wait for Black Friday deals.

Thoughts?

 

[vapour]

For your budget, 6 core 12 threads will last a long time, 1060 6gb can most games @ 1080p ultra for 60 FPS:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($194.29 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($73.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($90.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card ($259.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $619.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-18 16:27 EDT-0400

 

[jcrog]

Like that build but should I get more than 8GB Ram?

Also FWIW I don't overclock so that is not a concern.

Thanks!

 

[vapour]

16 gb will exceed your budget, or you can wait for cheaper 3xx mb comes out and get I5-8400 build since you don't OC.

 

[jcrog]

If I was able to expand my budget a bit which mobo do you recommend with the I5-8400

 

[vapour]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.89 @ B&H)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($111.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($90.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card ($259.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $662.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-18 19:25 EDT-0400

 

[jcrog]

I think I can swing that. Ok one last question... Is it worth waiting for black friday? Would thee be deal on any of these components???

 

[vapour]

Good components won't, but nobody knows, worth a try. Similar components may be on sale, you can swap.

 

[jcrog]

ok Thanks so much for your help

 

[jcrog]

Anything here change that? I am close to a MicroCenter and these seem like good deals.

http://www.microcenter.com/site/brands/intel-processor-bundles.aspx
http://www.microcenter.com/site/products/amd_bundles.aspx

Or is it better just to go with the i5-8400?

Thanks

 

[vapour]

Yeah, currently they have 50 off bundle deal, you may want to check local store inventory though, many good mb are already out of stock. Someone online claimed coffee lake belongs to the sale too but I have no idea.

 

[vapour]

It all depends on budget, 7th gen at discount price is also a good buy, but no upgrade path anymore. If the discount can allow you to get one level higher gpu, I think it is a good buy, otherwise, I will get coffee lake.

 

[jcrog]

Any thoughts on swapping in this video card instead?
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500402

 

[ohiou_grad_2006]

As long as you aren't overclocking, any of those 6gb 1060s should perform similar if you can keep it cool.

I think Microcenter is doing pre Black Friday now. The one near me has been advertising the AMD R5 1600 for 169.99. I think they usually take 30 bucks off the board too.

Back in summer I paid 189 for my 1600 and got 30 off a board. The ASRock is a decent board. I've got the micro version of it. My 1600 is stable at 3.7ghz. could run it on stock cooler, but I still got an aftermarket.

One thing I'd say, the Intel will perform better now, but socket am4 is supposed to be around till 2020. So hopefully you'll be able to upgrade when zen 2 or zen 3 comes out. They are already supposed to drop more CPUs come February I think.

Intel is already slated to release Cannon lake next year I think. So who knows if they'll change sockets again or if you'd have to get a new board etc if you wanted to upgrade again.

What are you gaming at? I'm at 1080p with the 1600, an RX 480 8gb, and 8gb of ram and it runs all I want. May grab more ram later just because though. But plays most stuff at 1080p high/ultra at the moment.

 

[jcrog]

I am not playing newer games. So I have not had too many issues. But it is just time to upgrade. I recently got the latest Doom so being able to play it would be nice.

I bought a new case and 16GB of the RAM for the Intel mobo. Should I sell it and go a different route?

Hoping to finish purchasing most of this over the BF/Cyber Monday weekend.

 

[ohiou_grad_2006]

Either one is going to do well. Get what you can afford. Personally I'm an AMD fan myself, and Ryzen is so much much better than Phenom 2 and the FX series.

However Intel is ahead in gaming, but I think for multitasking, until you get to the i7 coffee lake, AMD has an advantage.

I also think going forward, if AMD can get their act together and keep increasing the single core performance, that within the next couple of releases, I think they will be almost on par with Intel. They were within spitting distance as of kaby lake I think. I think that's why Intel rushed coffee lake out so fast.

Either way, if you go with say a 6 core Intel i5, if what you will mainly do is some general usage and gaming, then it will be a fine chip and should serve you well for a few years.

 

[jcrog]

I got the i5-8400 CPU.

Which mobo?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157796

or

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813145043

Thanks

 

[vapour]

First one, judging from limited reviews.

 

[ohiou_grad_2006]

I say either one is fine. I have used a lot of Gigabyte boards and rarely any issues with them. If course the ASRock in my ryzen build is doing well too. Toss up. I think I'd lean toward the Gigabyte.

One reason I have an ASRock is I just wanted something different than I'd had previously, and the sales guy at Microcenter said that the ASRock boards seemed the most reliable with Ryzen.

 

[jcrog]

Then there is this one...but it doesn't have many reviews

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813144111

 

[ohiou_grad_2006]

I think I'd roll with the gigabyte out ASRock. Just my opinion.

 

[vapour]

For the price, GA>MSI>ASROCK

 

[jcrog]

Ok getting the ASRock.

Any of these GPUs worth paying tax for? They are all about the same final price as the EVGA after rebates...

http://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.aspx?Ntt=gtx+1060+6gb&Ntk=all&sortby=match&N=4294966998&myStore=true

 

[vapour]

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500402&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

 

[jcrog]

Done! Thanks so much for all your help this system is ready to build!