Low budget gaming cpu

[henrudorsey320]

I am looking for a very cheep cpu to game with, I already have a 1060 6gb, a EVGA 500w PSU, and a case. I was wondering how the intel pentium G5400 would perform with a 1060 6gb.

 

[volkgren]

Do you need anything else to go with this CPU, or do you already have a motherboard and RAM?

If you have nothing and are looking to build a cheap gaming PC, the cheapest option to consider is probably the Pentium Gold G5400 on an H310 mobo, or a Pentium G4560 on a B250 motherboard. Both would require DDR4 RAM.

Another option is the Ryzen 3 1200 on a B350 motherboard (B350 is recommended for gaming as apposed to A320 because you can run faster memory on the B350 and overclock the CPU if you wanted), also required DDR4 RAM.

Also on the AMD side is the Ryzen 3 2200G, which comes with an integrated GPU that is capable of playing modern games at lower resolution. Requires updated B350 motherboard or B450.

 

[omegadoom13]

Also...what's your budget?
What games do you play? hope to play? monitor specs?

 

[henrudorsey320]

I plan to play on 1080p (1980 by 1080) and my budget is around 200 ( I have the GPU, psu, and case) but I would like to get 60 FPS on GTA 5

 

[volkgren]

Okay, so you have a budget of $200 for just the CPU? Or does that need to include a motherboard and RAM also?

What GPU do you have?

 

[henrudorsey320]

That includes the motherboard and ram. I have A 1060 6gb. I also have 8gb of ddr3 1600mhz and I was wondering if FX would work or is the bulldozer architecture to old.

 

[volkgren]

FX is not a good CPU to buy in to. It's not only old, but it was never really that fast. It's okay for multi-threaded games and applications, but most games rely on single-threaded speed along with some multi-threaded.

If you want to use DDR3, your best option is to buy a used H81, B85, Z87, or Z97 motherboard and your choice of a 4th-gen CPU such as i5-4590, 4690K, i7-4790, 4790K.

But it would probably be best to sell the DDR3 and buy all new parts. With your GTX 1060 6GB, I'd skip the cheaper Pentium and go for an i3-8100. It's faster than a 4th-gen i5. I suppose if you had a hard budget of $200, you could get the Pentium Gold G5400 until you could afford a better CPU.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i3-8100 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($118.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B360M DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($65.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: ADATA - 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $264.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-27 22:02 EDT-0400

or the cheaper Ryzen 3 1200, which is faster when overclocked.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350M-DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $239.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-27 22:04 EDT-0400

 

[henrudorsey320]

Alright, thanks I think I’ll go with the Ryzen 3 1200.

 

[volkgren]

Okay but I didn't necessarily mean that it was faster than the i3-8100 when overclocked, just that it was faster in general; most people overclock it. The i3-8100 would still probably be faster than the Ryzen 3 1200.

 

[henrudorsey320]

Ok, I’ll keep that in mind, thanks for the help.

 

[cyan1de_]

Dude you forgot the SSD and HDD...
lol

 

[cyan1de_]

Alright, thanks I think I’ll go with the Ryzen 3 1200.

Don't go with the Ryzen 3 1200. Get the Ryzen 3 2200g. It's better, faster and has a great intergrated GPU that will cover you if your GPU breaks or is sent for repairs.

HEAD'S UP
You better have a 400W+ PSU or else any of the listed builds won't run.

EDIT: This build is $250 without the SSD and HDD. If you do go with this build, you should update the BIOS of the motherboard.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($94.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU800 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($57.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($43.50 @ Newegg)
Total: $351.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-28 09:02 EDT-0400

 

[volkgren]

Ryzen 3 2200G requires a bios update on a B350 motherboard and may not be compatible out of the box. https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/2Gen-Ryzen-AM4-System-Bootup.aspx

You could go with a B450 motherboard, which is a little more expensive.

 

[cyan1de_]

Ryzen 3 2200G requires a bios update on a B350 motherboard and may not be compatible out of the box. https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/2Gen-Ryzen-AM4-System-Bootup.aspx

You could go with a B450 motherboard, which is a little more expensive.

It's only a BIOS update. Nothing wrong with that, is it? Just download the BIOS into a USB and plug it in and watch a YT video on how to. Fairly simple. Not worth spending the extra money on the new motherboard when you can literally download the BIOS for free.

 

[henrudorsey320]

I’ll go with the 2200g and Ryzen has a program where they give you a loaner cpu for the bios update. I do have a 500w psu and I can stick with my hard drive until I can get enough to upgrade to an ssd

 

[cyan1de_]

I’ll go with the 2200g and Ryzen has a program where they give you a loaner cpu for the bios update. I do have a 500w psu and I can stick with my hard drive until I can get enough to upgrade to an ssd

Select the new best answer please I'm desperate lol.

 

[volkgren]

Ryzen 3 2200G requires a bios update on a B350 motherboard and may not be compatible out of the box. https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/2Gen-Ryzen-AM4-System-Bootup.aspx

You could go with a B450 motherboard, which is a little more expensive.

It's only a BIOS update. Nothing wrong with that, is it? Just download the BIOS into a USB and plug it in and watch a YT video on how to. Fairly simple. Not worth spending the extra money on the new motherboard when you can literally download the BIOS for free.

You can't administer the bios update without a compatible CPU. So, you'd either have to buy one or request one from AMD via the link I provided above.

Ryzen 2200G is better, it just comes with a hassle or extra cost on the B450 motherboard.

 

[cyan1de_]

Ryzen 3 2200G requires a bios update on a B350 motherboard and may not be compatible out of the box. https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/2Gen-Ryzen-AM4-System-Bootup.aspx

You could go with a B450 motherboard, which is a little more expensive.

It's only a BIOS update. Nothing wrong with that, is it? Just download the BIOS into a USB and plug it in and watch a YT video on how to. Fairly simple. Not worth spending the extra money on the new motherboard when you can literally download the BIOS for free.

You can't administer the bios update without a compatible CPU. So, you'd either have to buy one or request one from AMD via the link I provided above.

Ryzen 2200G is better, it just comes with a hassle or extra cost on the B450 motherboard.

*facepalm*
You could just go to the motherboard's manufacturers' website and download the BIOS update from there...

 

[volkgren]

*facepalm*
You could just go to the motherboard's manufacturers' website and download the BIOS update from there...

Yes, but you won't be able to interface with the bios unless you already have a compatible CPU. So all you'd be looking at were a blank screen. To install a motherboard bios update, you must have a compatible CPU. By compatible, that means compatible with the current motherboard bios.

You could avoid that headache by purchasing a B450 motherboard which is compatible out of the box with Ryzen 3 2200G.

Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($72.98 @ Newegg)

 

[cyan1de_]

*facepalm*
You could just go to the motherboard's manufacturers' website and download the BIOS update from there...

Yes, but you won't be able to interface with the bios unless you already have a compatible CPU. So all you'd be looking at were a blank screen. To install a motherboard bios update, you must have a compatible CPU. By compatible, that means compatible with the current motherboard bios.

You could avoid that headache by purchasing a B450 motherboard which is compatible out of the box with Ryzen 3 2200G.

Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($72.98 @ Newegg)

If so, then how did people update the BIOS without a compatible CPU...
People have built PCs with Ryzen 5 2600 CPUs (2nd gen) with 1st gen mobos, B350.
That is literally the same case but the CPU is a Ryzen 3 2200g.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJrLLXY5tWU

 

[volkgren]

*facepalm*
You could just go to the motherboard's manufacturers' website and download the BIOS update from there...

Yes, but you won't be able to interface with the bios unless you already have a compatible CPU. So all you'd be looking at were a blank screen. To install a motherboard bios update, you must have a compatible CPU. By compatible, that means compatible with the current motherboard bios.

You could avoid that headache by purchasing a B450 motherboard which is compatible out of the box with Ryzen 3 2200G.

Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($72.98 @ Newegg)

If so, then how did people update the BIOS without a compatible CPU...
People have built PCs with Ryzen 5 2600 CPUs (2nd gen) with 1st gen mobos, B350.
That is literally the same case but the CPU is a Ryzen 3 2200g.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJrLLXY5tWU

They either had a first-gen Ryzen to update the bios, requested a loaner CPU from AMD, or the motherboard was manufactured after the bios update was released and already had the update.

 

[cyan1de_]

*facepalm*
You could just go to the motherboard's manufacturers' website and download the BIOS update from there...

Yes, but you won't be able to interface with the bios unless you already have a compatible CPU. So all you'd be looking at were a blank screen. To install a motherboard bios update, you must have a compatible CPU. By compatible, that means compatible with the current motherboard bios.

You could avoid that headache by purchasing a B450 motherboard which is compatible out of the box with Ryzen 3 2200G.

Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($72.98 @ Newegg)

If so, then how did people update the BIOS without a compatible CPU...
People have built PCs with Ryzen 5 2600 CPUs (2nd gen) with 1st gen mobos, B350.
That is literally the same case but the CPU is a Ryzen 3 2200g.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJrLLXY5tWU

They either had a first-gen Ryzen to update the bios, requested a loaner CPU from AMD, or the motherboard was manufactured after the bios update was released and already had the update.

If so, wouldn't they have said in the video?? It's pretty obvious you're wrong here.

 

[omegadoom13]

I’ll go with the 2200g and Ryzen has a program where they give you a loaner cpu for the bios update. I do have a 500w psu and I can stick with my hard drive until I can get enough to upgrade to an ssd

I like the 2200g, however, you already have a dedicated gpu - the 1060 6GB- and the 2200g is an APU, so I'd rather get a more powerful cpu

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-2600-vs-AMD-Ryzen-3-2200G/3955vsm441832
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-1600-vs-AMD-Ryzen-3-2200G/3919vsm441832
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113496
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113435

I realize OP is limited by budget as well... but he has a GTX 1060 6GB, so it doesn't make too much sense to get an APU albeit a very good cpu 2200g

 

[cyan1de_]

I’ll go with the 2200g and Ryzen has a program where they give you a loaner cpu for the bios update. I do have a 500w psu and I can stick with my hard drive until I can get enough to upgrade to an ssd

I like the 2200g, however, you already have a dedicated gpu - the 1060 6GB- and the 2200g is an APU, so I'd rather get a more powerful cpu

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-2600-vs-AMD-Ryzen-3-2200G/3955vsm441832
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-1600-vs-AMD-Ryzen-3-2200G/3919vsm441832
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113496
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113435

I realize OP is limited by budget as well... but he has a GTX 1060 6GB, so it doesn't make too much sense to get an APU albeit a very good cpu 2200g

Yes, he is limited by his budget so the best option is to get the 2200g. Or he could find a deal somewhere for a Ryzen 5 CPU. The 1400, 1500x, 2400g, 1600 and 1600x are all great CPUs. If he can find a deal on that, then that would be marvellous.

 

[omegadoom13]

I’ll go with the 2200g and Ryzen has a program where they give you a loaner cpu for the bios update. I do have a 500w psu and I can stick with my hard drive until I can get enough to upgrade to an ssd

I like the 2200g, however, you already have a dedicated gpu - the 1060 6GB- and the 2200g is an APU, so I'd rather get a more powerful cpu

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-2600-vs-AMD-Ryzen-3-2200G/3955vsm441832
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-1600-vs-AMD-Ryzen-3-2200G/3919vsm441832
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113496
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113435

I realize OP is limited by budget as well... but he has a GTX 1060 6GB, so it doesn't make too much sense to get an APU albeit a very good cpu 2200g

Yes, he is limited by his budget so the best option is to get the 2200g. Or he could find a deal somewhere for a Ryzen 5 CPU. The 1400, 1500x, 2400g, 1600 and 1600x are all great CPUs. If he can find a deal on that, then that would be marvellous.

Yeah, it's unfortunate. those cpus you listed are great. If he can find a great deal, yeah. good luck OP