Low FPS with i5-6500 3.20 GHz and Nvidia 1070 GTX 8 GB

[lolington]

CPU: i5-6500 3.20 GHz
GPU: Nvidia 1070 GTX 8 GB
RAM: 16 GB DDR4
SSD: KINGSTON SSDNow UV400 240GB
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1 TB
Mobo: B150 Pro Gaming
Power Supply: Fortron Hyper S 500 - 500 W

Store page: https://www.alza.sk/EN/alza-gamebox-neo-gtx1070-d4304764.htm

Hi there! Im so glad that I found this website, my problem is in low FPS in strategy games, city building games and so on. Like Cities: Skylines, Hearts of Iron IV, The Guild 3, Transport Fewer, so on. GPU looks fine, Im worried that my CPU is killing the FPS, can you please help me to find some solution? Of course I using newest graphic drivers and performance is set to high. Thanks.

 

[CrazyDingo]

ram? os? os up to date? tested for malware? run any tests or diagnostics? any error logs or crash reports?

 

[lolington]

Ram is specified above, W10 up to date, tested - no problems, no errors.

Even if game runs at like 30 fps, CPU activity is 70% and GPU 35%.

 

[sizzling]

What are your cpu & gpu temperatures when gaming? Also what speed (GHz) is the cpu running at while gaming?

You can use a program like MSIAfterburner to monitor this.

 

[lolington]

No problem with heatwave, also FPS are low even when GPU/CPU are cold, CPU boosts during gaming to 3.6 GHz.

 

[sizzling]

Ok, monitor individual cpu cores and not total cpu usage. Do any individual cores hit or get close to 100%?

 

[lolington]

Nope, all of them are used to same level, just first core is higher like by 0-5% sometimes. None of them near 100%.

 

[sizzling]

Nope, all of them are used to same level, just first core is higher like by 0-5% sometimes. None of them near 100%.

Then nothing to indicate the cpu is limiting performance. Using something like msiafterburner can you see any hardware running very high usage?

What fps are you getting and in what games?

 

[lolington]

Cities: Skylines at larger cities 20-40 fps
The Guild 3 15-30 fps
Transport fewer 25-45 fps
AC: Origins 10-25 fps

I have no idea why CPU dont go up to 99% if the game needs more calculations.

 

[nobspls]

Which connector on the back of your machine is being connected to the monitor? The thing is if you are connected to the integrated IGPU connector, then you are NOT even using the the GTX1070, and would easily explain the low FPS.

 

[lolington]

There is only one VGA like port and something like 4x USB port, but its not USB for sure.

 

[lolington]

Here is a pic: https://image.ibb.co/e1o5o0/44443880-484989008688550-8004917865410985984-n.jpg

 

[COLGeek]

The white connector is a DVI cable connected to a DVI port.

In addition, there are 2 DisplayPorts and 2 HDMI ports on the GPU.

 

[lolington]

Sooooo... DVI port is the good one, or nup?

 

[COLGeek]

Yes, the DVI port is fine to use. Your are connected properly to your GPU (not connected to the integrated video adapter as the previous member was ruling out).

 

[lolington]

Well, Im kinda lost. Whats the problem... fps are low, but CPU and GPU are not even fully used. As I said before, GPU 35% and CPU around 75%...

 

[COLGeek]

The CPU is a bit under-powered when compared to the more capable GTX 1070 from a perspective of performance potential. A stronger CPU, like an i7-6700k would help balance out your system.

What resolution are you gaming at?

 

[lolington]

1920x1080, how about i5-7700k?

 

[COLGeek]

You mean i7-7700k? Likely requires a BIOS update to work properly.

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/B150-PRO-GAMING/HelpDesk_CPU/

 

[nobspls]

The stronger CPU like the 7700K vs a 6600 is not going to make up the drastic low FPS you are talking about.

You want to identify configuration problems, setup problems, before jumping to replacing hardware.

Now that we know you are connected to the DVI port from the GPU, one of the next thing to check is your drivers. Are you running with nVidia's drivers or are you stuck using some random default drivers that is not actually making use of your video card.

Another thing to check is to verify that you have actual PCI-E power lines feeding your GTX1070. Missing either one of these will lead to bad results.

 

[lolington]

My i5 uses 65W, i7-6700k uses 91 W, where exactly I can find information if my power supply can support +26 W?

 

[lolington]

I using Nvidia drivers and not sure yet about PCI-E.

 

[nobspls]

If you look as the benchmark data for AC Origins here:
https://www.pcgamer.com/assassins-creed-origins-performance-guide/

The expected FPS should be over 60 fps. CPU upgrades are not going to fix a 40 fps difference.

 

[nobspls]

The PCI-E connector should be in your case, should look something like this:
https://i.imgur.com/xrZL6fr.jpg

That is a picture of the internals of my build. You see the white ASUS GTX1070 a the bottom, and at the end of the GTX1070 there is the PCI-E power cables plugging into it.

So you'll want to open up you case and check the physical cabling.

 

[COLGeek]

PCIe power refers to the power connections going from your PSU to your GPU (powering the video card).

The CPU discussion earlier was about system balance. This one is out of balance and will contribute to overall performance.

I agree with nobspls that a CPU upgrade will not resolve the entire issue. Seems there is something else holding back system performance.

Has this system been fully scanned for malware/viruses lately?