Low, medium and High builds

[mjohnson24]

Could someone help me out as far as what would be a good low end, medium and high end build? Its for a church using a program called propresenter which is a performance hog but its kinda like powerpoint. It shows videos and slides on a separate screen. high end could have maybe a 1070 max but i think a 1060 would be good too.

looking for basically: mobo, ram, cpu, cooler, gpu and maybe a mid tower case. The rest of the components isnt a big deal. But those are the main ones that count.

low end: $500-700
medium: 700-1000
highend: 1000-1500

It would be greatly appreciated if someone could help me put a list of components together or help me in anyway with what to get for each of the 3 builds.

 

[Rogue Leader]

I looked up that program, you do not need a GTX 1070 or even a 1060 o run it, that would simply be a waste of money

This would do that program no problem

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor ($174.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI H110M Gaming Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($62.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($76.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1050 2GB Mini Video Card ($109.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair SPEC-02 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($53.95 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($87.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $710.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-07 11:05 EST-0500

I only added the 1050 because the product site recommends not using Intel integrated graphics. I would have done a 750 ti, but the price difference is minimal. You don't need a cooler the stock one is fine, and even 16gb may be excessive, but I threw it in there.

 

[xFeaRDom]

Couple of 'High End' Builds:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2Jfwyf
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2Jfwyf/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($227.49 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($153.89 @ B&H)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($93.99 @ Jet)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($164.99 @ Jet)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.78 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 8GB STRIX Video Card ($633.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1516.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-07 11:05 EST-0500

Or, one with the 6700K:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qLPC4C
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qLPC4C/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($329.88 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($153.89 @ B&H)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($93.99 @ Jet)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($94.75 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.78 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING Video Card ($399.99 @ B&H)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1314.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-07 11:06 EST-0500

Mid end:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/38rKKZ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/38rKKZ/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($191.91 @ Jet)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: MSI H110M Gaming Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($62.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($93.99 @ Jet)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($94.75 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.78 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card ($249.99 @ Jet)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($78.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $924.27
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-07 11:08 EST-0500

Low End:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GTnzhq
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GTnzhq/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($191.91 @ Jet)
Motherboard: MSI H110M Gaming Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($62.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($93.99 @ Jet)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($44.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.78 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card ($144.89 @ B&H)
Case: Corsair 100R ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($54.02 @ B&H)
Total: $677.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-07 11:12 EST-0500

 

[Onus]

If you are building a computer for business presentations, no matter how complex, you may not need a separate graphics card even if you will be using 4K screens; certainly nothing more powerful than a GT730.
What will differentiate these machines are the CPU and the storage type. Do you know what makes Propresenter a "performance hog?" Does it use huge files, or is it also an image editor? If the former, the greatest performance improvement will be from getting a SSD; if the latter, a faster CPU like an i5 over a Pentium.

 

[clarkjd]

For your medium- high-end builds, just start with What Rogue Leader suggested, and start adding higher performance parts till you spend your money. I would also recommend a 1TB data HDD to store your presentations.

 

[snurp85]

Youre right that you dont need a 1070, the 1060 will do just fine. Unfortunately you lkely wont be able to do a low end option because the program requires at least an i5.

here is a decent build you can go with. you could save a few dollars by dropping down to 8gb, but since the program recommends 8, having a bit more might help. The corsair PSU should be fine, although going with a slightly more expensive EVGA from the P2, B2, G2 lines would be better (>550 watts). I would also recommend getting a OEM copy of windows 7 from ebay. you can usually find them for about $40.


https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NmrKKZ

You can always go higher, but there really is no need since you are only using it for presentations and such.

 

[geofelt]

The minimum requirements are:


ProPresenter version 6 for Windows (minimum Windows specifications)
•OS: (may run on Windows 7, but not guaranteed or supported)
- Windows 8 Pro with Windows Media Center (more info)
- Windows 10
•Processor: Intel i5 or equivalent AMD processor and above
•RAM: 8 GB RAM
•Graphics: A dedicated/discrete graphics card that supports OpenGL 3.2 or higher is required (i.e. NVIDIA GeForce series or AMD Radeon series card with a minimum of 1GB of dedicated memory). AMD FirePro and NVIDIA Quadro cards are not recommended. Intel HD Graphics may work if they support OpenGL 3.2 (more info), but are NOT recommended or supported.
•Stage Display: Additional output required for stage display function (third video out - PCI or USB)

On the cpu, I5 means 4 threads.
There is no amd fx processor than can compete with intel, and so I am thinking that the cpu requirements are not overly demanding.

I really think a i3-6100@3.7 will do the job at any level. Spend a bit more for a i3-6320@3.9 and you will be doing as well as you can short of a $250 i5-6600K with an overclock.
Single thread performance is all important to such apps.

Any H110 based motherboard will do the job. M-ATX will be a more compact size.

While 8gb of ram is recommended, a 2 x 8gb kit of ddr4 2400 speed ram would insure no ram capacity issues.

For graphics, most modern cards will meet the 1gb vram requirement.
Since fast action graphics is not needed, the card could be something like a GTX1050.

You will not need a aux cooler since the i3-6xxx comes with one.
But, I would buy one anyway primarily to keep the noise under load down.
Cryorig H7 would be good, also the scythe kotuetsu are in the $35 range.

For a M-ATX case, I highly recommend the Silverstone PS-07.
It is compact and quiet. It has easily cleaned front washable air filters.

Buy only a quality psu like Seasonic, xfx, antec.
500w is about right.

Do not forget a SSD for windows C drive.

 

[mjohnson24]

Wow this is why i love Tomshardware forums! Cause people are willing to help you with what you need. Other forums i go to dont have this kind of help. I didnt expect this kind of response honestly but wow thanks guys so far for the responses. Ill definitely look at those as soon as i get downtime here at work and check em all out.

I know the computer that we have now at the church is a prebuilt computer with 8gb Ram, i7 3.4ghz, nvidia geforce gt 620. Now supposedly thats what the guy told me the video card is but ill find out for sure tonight for myself and make sure but according to that video card he told me it has opengl 4.2 which is above the specs for propresenter. But the computer is running win 8.1. Sunday morning in a 45 minute window Propresenter crashed on me 2 times atleast and windows crashed i think 2-3 times as well. i may try to re do that computer and see if i can put win 10 on it and check it out. They also tried putting the latest driver for the nvidia gpu and pro presenter dont like it. It wont display the slides on the secondary screen.

thats basically why i was looking at buying parts and building a custom pc so i know it can be upgraded in future easier than pre builts.

 

[Rogue Leader]

Depending on what specific i7 is in there, I would just get a SLIGHTLY better GPU (maybe theres something wrong with that one) like a GT730 or at your craziest a GTX 1050, maybe add some ram and/or an SSD, and upgrade to Windows 10. No reason to spend any more money than that.

 

[mjohnson24]

Depending on what specific i7 is in there, I would just get a SLIGHTLY better GPU (maybe theres something wrong with that one) like a GT730 or at your craziest a GTX 1050, maybe add some ram and/or an SSD, and upgrade to Windows 10. No reason to spend any more money than that.

Yea thats what i was gonna try to do is upgrade to Win10 and make sure the software is installed correctly and all before upgrading the whole thing but then maybe its better anyway since it would give us another PC to use as a music server. I plan on talking to them about it tonight again and going from there. Since theres really no way of knowing if its a software bug or OS or GPU issue. I know i have the trial version of ProPresenter installed on my PC running:

i7 6900k
evga 1080 ftw gaming acx3 gpu
1200w PSU
samsung 950 pro evo m.2
win10

And all that runs the program flawlessly with the most recent GPU driver and sitting there it hasnt crashed ProPresenter. Ive also clicked around different slides and songs and all and still hasn't crashed so thats why i was gonna try doing a little more upgrading on the OS to win10 and redo the drivers and check the exact specs of the CPU and GPU tonight and see what i can find out.

Now if i do get a new GPU id probably do a 1060. Wanting something that will last quite a few years without having to upgrade again in a year unless the company beefs up their program tremendously.

But i do know if i do upgrade the PC i will do an ssd for sure.

 

[Rogue Leader]

Now if i do get a new GPU id probably do a 1060. Wanting something that will last quite a few years without having to upgrade again in a year unless the company beefs up their program tremendously.

But i do know if i do upgrade the PC i will do an ssd for sure.

A 1060 is a complete waste of money. 2D and video playback, etc wise there is no difference between a 1050 and a 1060, they are identical. Its when you get to 3D which propresenter will never use you get into an issue. Heck a GT 730 would be good enough. For what you are doing other than the video card failing there is no reason to ever need to upgrade.

 

[mjohnson24]

Now if i do get a new GPU id probably do a 1060. Wanting something that will last quite a few years without having to upgrade again in a year unless the company beefs up their program tremendously.

But i do know if i do upgrade the PC i will do an ssd for sure.

A 1060 is a complete waste of money. 2D and video playback, etc wise there is no difference between a 1050 and a 1060, they are identical. Its when you get to 3D which propresenter will never use you get into an issue. Heck a GT 730 would be good enough. For what you are doing other than the video card failing there is no reason to ever need to upgrade.

Question is can u do upto 4 screens on the 1050? Right now we have the main PC monitor i use then the projector in front but we may add a third projector in back strictly for the stage. right now we have the gt620 or whatever it is plus a usb vga style graphics adaptor and the usb one runs the back but if or when it stops sometimes or dont come on then its a pain to get it back up and running sometimes so it would be great if the 1050 or whatever did upto 4 screens at once.

 

[Rogue Leader]

Ok so you have found the one situation where you would need a GTX 1060 which supports 4 monitors, over a 1050 which supports 3. However to save money you could also just run 2 display adapters in the PC, a 1050 and a cheap additional card as well. Considering the 1050 is $150 cheaper than most 1060's this is a WAY better way to go.

That said based on your description I only count 3 (monitor, front projector, rear projector), so the 1050 should still work fine.

 

[Onus]

You could use the IGP as one of your outputs as well. There is no need to spend money on gaming graphics cards for this system, unless it will also be used to play 3D games.

 

[mjohnson24]

Ok so you have found the one situation where you would need a GTX 1060 which supports 4 monitors, over a 1050 which supports 3. However to save money you could also just run 2 display adapters in the PC, a 1050 and a cheap additional card as well. Considering the 1050 is $150 cheaper than most 1060's this is a WAY better way to go.

That said based on your description I only count 3 (monitor, front projector, rear projector), so the 1050 should still work fine.

Ill have to see what they say. i got all of it in a newegg temp wish list so they can get an idea of it and go from there. Its really want they want to do and their decision. Id say yea the 1050 for 3 displays would be fine but ill see what they say. I did take some of the highend parts from xFeaRDom highend list and make one thats more high end with a 6800k and x99-a ii board just for the heck of it. they are really looking for something that will have the performance even if its more than what they really need but to last for a long time. which is why the two high end builds i made would probably fit their wants more.

http://www.skycloudphotography.com/NewBuild/LifeChurch-HighEnd2.pdf
http://www.skycloudphotography.com/NewBuild/LifeChurch-HighEnd.pdf
http://www.skycloudphotography.com/NewBuild/LifeChurch-MidRange.pdf
http://www.skycloudphotography.com/NewBuild/LifeChurch-LowRange.pdf

the lowRange is probably not as low as i was thinking but it will do for now i think. The guy that will take this stuff to the pastor specifically wanted me really to lowball some of it so it will force them to look and say hey yea maybe the highend even though its more than what we need but it will or should last for a long time as far as performance is what we need or should get. I changed a couple things like case and all but the LifeChurch-HighEnd2.pdf version dont have the ram added or the cooler added. The NZXT case i saw didnt look like it had a cdrom bay to add a cdrom or dvd rom to it which is something that will be needed for sure since we play dvd's sometimes. But if theres a better case yall think than the corsair i added please let me know. And if im missing something on these then please let me know that as well.

 

[mjohnson24]

I looked up that program, you do not need a GTX 1070 or even a 1060 o run it, that would simply be a waste of money

This would do that program no problem

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor ($174.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI H110M Gaming Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($62.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($76.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1050 2GB Mini Video Card ($109.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair SPEC-02 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($53.95 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($87.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $710.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-07 11:05 EST-0500

I only added the 1050 because the product site recommends not using Intel integrated graphics. I would have done a 750 ti, but the price difference is minimal. You don't need a cooler the stock one is fine, and even 16gb may be excessive, but I threw it in there.

I still might add this one that rogueleader added first as a low low ball one for them so they can see it too.

 

[mjohnson24]

ok so they wanted to do the expensive one so it will last a long time which for the specs of the build and what the software recommends id think this build would last for about 5 years atleast as far as performance.

The build is at the link below. All i need to do is add a CPU cooler that works for this i7 6800k and ram for the board selected in the list. since there wont be any overclocking dont need anything expensive just something that works. I ws thinking of kingston hyperx (2x8gb sticks) 2133mhz. but dont know if a fan cooler would be enough for this cpu. If so is there one that is good and has good ram clearance for the ram and board selected? And if the fan cooler will clear the side of the case in the list or is there a better cheap case than the one i have that allows for DVD roms drives?

http://www.skycloudphotography.com/NewBuild/LifeChurch-HighEnd2.pdf

i decided to change the board to the below board. Its lower price and not as high tech as the x99-a ii but i think it will still be a really good board. So can fudge a few things higher priced to get something better like cooler, ram and case if needed. my max goal would be $1600.

ASUS X99-E LGA 2011-v3 Intel X99 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 USB 3.0 ATX Motherboard

Opinions?

 

[Rogue Leader]

A CRYORIG H7 is more than enough for that CPU. You're not overclocking, heck you won't even be pushing it. Anything else (ie liquid) is a waste of money.

As an aside you must be a good salesman, If I was a member of this church I would not be so thrilled my tithes were being used on essentially a high end gaming computer thats going to be used for glorified powerpoint presentations.

 

[mjohnson24]

A CRYORIG H7 is more than enough for that CPU. You're not overclocking, heck you won't even be pushing it. Anything else (ie liquid) is a waste of money.

As an aside you must be a good salesman, If I was a member of this church I would not be so thrilled my tithes were being used on essentially a high end gaming computer thats going to be used for glorified powerpoint presentations.

yea i get your point. I didnt really sell em on it though. i just laid out all 4 quotes and told em this would last about a year before getting outdated and this one would last a really long time before getting outdated. I still may downsize it to the 6700 instead. havent decided though. is the cryorig H7 good on ram clearance? and is the ram for the other builds work on this one or should i get something else. 2 8gb sticks is more than enough for this.

but im actually kinda glad they are doing it cause they've been leaving my area behind and not really updating anything i kinda needed. they been pretty much ignoring anything ive asked for.

but it will be used for that but also video stuff as well in the future.

 

[mjohnson24]

the Cryorig H7 didnt say it would fit the LGA 2011-3 socket so i found one that i think would clear ram and all and do the job good.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608067

Final build i think with yalls help. http://www.skycloudphotography.com/NewBuild/LifeChurchBuild.pdf

 

[Rogue Leader]

Yeah the Cryorig is excellent for ram clearance, the DDR4 you picked is perfectly fine, you'll run in dual channel, its only 16 gb anyway. I mean that board will do quad channel, you can get a 4x4gb set, but for what you are doing its not worth what you'd pay for that memory set.

 

[Rogue Leader]

the Cryorig H7 didnt say it would fit the LGA 2011-3 socket so i found one that i think would clear ram and all and do the job good.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608067

Final build i think with yalls help. http://www.skycloudphotography.com/NewBuild/LifeChurchBuild.pdf

The fan is small on that one, while its a noctua which is almost silent it still has to spin real fast to cool well, you should consider the U12S if you're gonna go that route.

I was wrong on the Cryorig H7 however the H5 will fit and is guaranteed to clear your ram slots

 

[mjohnson24]

the Cryorig H7 didnt say it would fit the LGA 2011-3 socket so i found one that i think would clear ram and all and do the job good.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608067

Final build i think with yalls help. http://www.skycloudphotography.com/NewBuild/LifeChurchBuild.pdf

The fan is small on that one, while its a noctua which is almost silent it still has to spin real fast to cool well, you should consider the U12S if you're gonna go that route.

I was wrong on the Cryorig H7 however the H5 will fit and is guaranteed to clear your ram slots

ill check those two out. I was actually looking at the Cryorig h5 universal but didnt know if it would work well.

They both clear ram and pcie slots so now its a matter of which to go with. I hear alot of great things about noctua though.

 

[mjohnson24]

what do ya think about the rest of the stuff? Besides being way more than what may be needed? Allthough i may drop the video card down to a evga 1060 instead but not sure yet.

 

[Rogue Leader]

All good choices of equipment. Overkill yes, but all good quality choices.

Noctua is ultra quiet which is nice, I love them I use them on both my wife's PC (U12S) and my Server (L9i). The particular one you picked though I don't love for your situation because its smaller, so it could get noisy. Better off with the quieter and more efficient U12S.