News Lunar Lake laptop seemingly has 5 hours longer battery life than Apple M3 MacBook — Lenovo Yoga Slim 7i reaches almost 24 hours of video playback

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Cool - if only we didn’t have Windows’ built in battery consumption for excessive windows update processing and then Teams to reduce that figure to a third in real life.
 
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Without knowing the details of which "Laptop with M2/M3" this may not be a apple's to apple's comparison. The Yoga-Slim-7i has a 70 Wh capacity battery, the 13 inch MacBook Air with a M2/M3 only has a 52.6 Wh capacity battery, the 15 inch Air has a 66.5 Wh battery and the MacBook Pro has a 70 Wh battery. Without knowing which model they are testing against this could be really impressive or just matching.

Still bolds well for these processors, but hard to say which is "better" without a more details about the battery capacity.
 
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It would be nice to see how much watt/hours it sips, but I understand those kinds of tests are harder to measure when the laptop/mini-PC behave differently when plugged in.

Ultimately, laptops are about the complete package, including the use of larger battery and screen type.
 
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baboma said:
It doesn't matter, because like-to-like compare is not the main purpose. The purpose is to impress into the audience's mind that the Lenovo laptop (w/ Lunar Lake) is "just as good or better" than MacBook in battery life.
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I does matter if they are comparing a 13" laptop to a 15" laptop (which seems likely since Apple advertises 18 hours of playback for the 13" Air). In most cases a 13" laptop won't outlast a 15" laptop of similar eras due to being able to house a larger capacity battery. Size of the battery matters in terms of how long something will last. This is why bigger phones have longer battery life.

If it's the 15" vs the 15" I agree with you all day, but without knowing that, I standby my original post of, it bolds well for these processor, but doesn't really provide evidence that is better or worse than what Apple is offering in terms of battery life.
 
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I am eagerly awaiting a purchase of lunarlake laptop, and I compared all 19 pre-order pre-release units and exactly 3 have a TB4 on both the right and left side (which is something I prefer as I deal with docking stations that sometimes want left or right connections).
As only the Lenovo offers normal ports(USB-A on tap) and a workable keyboard, as well as a dedicated power button(I really detest having that on the keyboard). It is the laptop I am gunning for. The Dell and HP are try-hard macs with odd design choices (e.g. function keys that are haptic on the xps...).

I also considered the Asus Zenbook S 14 OLED UX5406SA and MSI Prestige 13 AI+ Evo [both have OLED, the lenovo won't have this till 2025]. I think the Zenbook has the best build quality, even with the price premium and the MSI has the best availability (Amazon) and with great port selection(micro SD!). The problem is Lenovo if you order today, you will not receive till November if you are getting the 32GB and for a fixed ram laptop, It seems very short sighted to get the 16gb config especially when the difference is 100 quid.

That is the annoying thing, bestbuy has a lot on pre-order but all the models the sport only 16gb versions. I do think Costco will end up with some good 32gb choices around the holidays but I am eager to get one now.
 
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While this sounds like a good start for Intel’s Lunar Lake, we will know if all these efficiency claim holds when the product is release. Playing video is only 1 type of use case, but people don’t buy expensive laptops to just watch movies or shows.
 
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I think this progress is fantastic! Genuinely. We all want more power, but we also (well, many of us) want more time away from being plugged into the wall for power.

...that said...
Show of hands: Who here uses their laptop with no WiFi (ok, airplane flights, road trips...), keyboard backlighting turned off, watching a video at 24fps with the screen at a ridiculously low screen brightness of 150nits for more than a few hours at a time?

HAHA, ok, it STILL is a good sign of general power efficiency, but I wish this reporting and other reporting was maybe a liiiiiiiiiitle more assertive about highlighting the carefully orchestrated data (it is pointed out in this article, I wish there was more data though about more normal use cases and how tests like this need to be seen for what they are...slight of hand). Back to what really matters though, we are genuinely seeing some great new hardware coming out and competition heating up around balancing performance and power efficiency. 👍
 
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BirdNerd said:
I think this progress is fantastic! Genuinely. We all want more power, but we also (well, many of us) want more time away from being plugged into the wall for power.

...that said...
Show of hands: Who here uses their laptop with no WiFi (ok, airplane flights, road trips...), keyboard backlighting turned off, watching a video at 24fps with the screen at a ridiculously low screen brightness of 150nits for more than a few hours at a time?

HAHA, ok, it STILL is a good sign of general power efficiency, but I wish this reporting and other reporting was maybe a liiiiiiiiiitle more assertive about highlighting the carefully orchestrated data (it is pointed out in this article, I wish there was more data though about more normal use cases and how tests like this need to be seen for what they are...slight of hand). Back to what really matters though, we are genuinely seeing some great new hardware coming out and competition heating up around balancing performance and power efficiency. 👍
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That's why I wait for reviewers to show what we can expect. I'm glad I waited on buying a Ryzen Zen 5 CPU. I wanted to get one on day one. Well, it turns out I'd be better off with a 7000 CPU, taking in price/performance in my workload. Lol, saved me money!

I am hunting for a laptop as well and I'm excited for LNL! But I will def wait to see what it can really do.
 
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JamesJones44 said:
I does matter if they are comparing a 13" laptop to a 15" laptop (which seems likely since Apple advertises 18 hours of playback for the 13" Air). In most cases a 13" laptop won't outlast a 15" laptop of similar eras due to being able to house a larger capacity battery. Size of the battery matters in terms of how long something will last. This is why bigger phones have longer battery life.

If it's the 15" vs the 15" I agree with you all day, but without knowing that, I standby my original post of, it bolds well for these processor, but doesn't really provide evidence that is better or worse than what Apple is offering in terms of battery life.
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The laptops pictured in the video are 15 inch Airs.
 
good. it's not apples to apples here but not long ago you couldn't find a single scenario to outperform apple. this is a bit of a win even if it's not lunar lake actually beating apple. Let's see normal workloads on equivalent machines and we'll talk.
 
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If Intel's new tile based approach really delivers, going forward AMD is in a spot of bother. By Panther Lake Intel will be on not only 1.8nm node, but offering Backside Power delivery. AMD will be on N3 and TSMC won't have BSPD ready until N2 at the earliest and AMD wouldn't be on that until Zen 7, facing Nova Lake's successor on 14A.
 
BirdNerd said:
I think this progress is fantastic! Genuinely. We all want more power, but we also (well, many of us) want more time away from being plugged into the wall for power.

...that said...
Show of hands: Who here uses their laptop with no WiFi (ok, airplane flights, road trips...), keyboard backlighting turned off, watching a video at 24fps with the screen at a ridiculously low screen brightness of 150nits for more than a few hours at a time?

HAHA, ok, it STILL is a good sign of general power efficiency, but I wish this reporting and other reporting was maybe a liiiiiiiiiitle more assertive about highlighting the carefully orchestrated data (it is pointed out in this article, I wish there was more data though about more normal use cases and how tests like this need to be seen for what they are...slight of hand). Back to what really matters though, we are genuinely seeing some great new hardware coming out and competition heating up around balancing performance and power efficiency. 👍
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I think Lenovo was trying to isolate CPU power consumption under light use by reducing the extra peripheral power consumption. Kind of like measuring just the CPU power draw during gaming vs whole system power draw during gaming.

And it is notable that Windows 11 is a less efficient OS than the one Apple is using.

We will have to wait for reviews, but it is looking plausible that no capable processor/OS combination will be able to match Lunar Lake x86 on W11 in efficiency for normal common consumer tasks.

Last year that seemed as likely as Battlemage turning out great and Intel winning the next Xbox contract.
 
Never use local media playback to test battery as it doesnt even use the processor's processing. Infact it only uses fixed function blocks which is intel quicksync in this case. Vendors that use these kind of test are incompetence at best, or intentionally misleading at worst.
 
No buy for me until Linux fully supported.
Would like to eek out that extra battery with a OS that works for me, and not a company
 
have to see the testing environment detail, if really use 1800p at120hz refresh rate , 150 nits brightness, battery life can last 23:50 hours, it is awesome.
 
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have to see the testing environment detail, if really use 1800p at120hz refresh rate , 150 nits brightness, battery life can last 23:50 hours, it is awesome.
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I'm afraid these numbers are made up, they defy the laws of physics. With a 65whr baterry, to get 24 hours of baterry life the whole thing has to be sitting at 2.7w an hour. The screen, speakers and nvme alone can consume that much.
 
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more battery life ? does not matter , already both are long enough. we need to know performance per watt to decide which is better. full stop.
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It's a mobile device, baterry life does matter a lot. I got one of the best laptops when it comes to baterry life and it's nowhere near a 149 euro chromebook. The chromebook literally lasts 3 to 4 times longer.
 
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TheHerald said:
I'm afraid these numbers are made up, they defy the laws of physics. With a 65whr baterry, to get 24 hours of baterry life the whole thing has to be sitting at 2.7w an hour. The screen, speakers and nvme alone can consume that much.
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LG claims over 20h:
View: https://youtu.be/5e94cv8-Csc?t=79

Acer claims 29h video playback and 23h web browsing:
View: https://youtu.be/vfzQjqdfqoY?t=194

Asus 27-29h and 20h doing "pcmark10 office productivity" whatever that is:
View: https://youtu.be/W998AZhrOg4?t=144


So it is looking plausible at least. Still have to wait for reviews.
And I don't think having the best battery life running CB is important. I care about how long the battery will last while I am using it and like the majority of users I rarely run Cinebench on a laptop on battery.
 
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LG claims over 20h:
View: https://youtu.be/5e94cv8-Csc?t=79

Acer claims 29h video playback and 23h web browsing:
View: https://youtu.be/vfzQjqdfqoY?t=194

Asus 27-29h and 20h doing "pcmark10 office productivity" whatever that is:
View: https://youtu.be/W998AZhrOg4?t=144


So it is looking plausible at least. Still have to wait for reviews.
And I don't think having the best battery life running CB is important. I care about how long the battery will last while I am using it and like the majority of users I rarely run Cinebench on a laptop on battery.
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Not talking about cinebench. Just local video playback with the wifi turned off (thas how they are testing) you can't get 24 hours on a 65whr baterry. That's what the slim7i 2023 uses.

I've got a laptop that supposedly scores over 11 hours of online video playback, I think it's the best baterry life currently on any laptop. Yet in actual usage and after tuning the OS to be as lightweight as possible I barely get 7. Which is around 9 watts powerdraw for the whole machine. The cpu only consumes 2 W. So no matter how great intel chips are, even if they are drawing 0 watts, you cannot hit those insane numbers
 
TheHerald said:
It's a mobile device, baterry life does matter a lot. I got one of the best laptops when it comes to baterry life and it's nowhere near a 149 euro chromebook. The chromebook literally lasts 3 to 4 times longer.
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as i said : it is ALREADY enough. it is not like Apple has 4 hours battery life ... they have almost full day use on a single charge .. so AFTER that , Performance per watt matters more . who cares about 4 hours more when you have enough ?
 
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