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I think what has been missed is the parameters for the attack has changed, Windows PC used to be prime targets due to their large market presence, the prime use of an infected PC was control, so the PC itself can be further utilized in other activities which may prove more profitable, info stealing capabilities were later added, but this caused unnecessary bloat given the primary role of infection, given a few hundred compromised PCs only a handful may have profitable info.
Now the demographics for a Mac user is completely different, doesn't take a genius to realize Mac users tend to have more financial leverage, they are also less guarded about storing sensitive information and significantly less likely to have security software, sure there are less of them but the chances of profiting from each one is far higher
a really smart malware programmer targeting Macs would not create something big and bloated that tries to get everywhere slowing the machine down sending out large swaths of information trying to always connect to the internet, he would create a small stealth instrument which remains hidden and imperceptible sending out very precise and select pieces of information, in short the Mac user would think that they were not infected, for the malware author maintaining the status quo would be their most important weapon
Now the demographics for a Mac user is completely different, doesn't take a genius to realize Mac users tend to have more financial leverage, they are also less guarded about storing sensitive information and significantly less likely to have security software, sure there are less of them but the chances of profiting from each one is far higher
a really smart malware programmer targeting Macs would not create something big and bloated that tries to get everywhere slowing the machine down sending out large swaths of information trying to always connect to the internet, he would create a small stealth instrument which remains hidden and imperceptible sending out very precise and select pieces of information, in short the Mac user would think that they were not infected, for the malware author maintaining the status quo would be their most important weapon
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[citation][nom]DifferentAttack[/nom]Now the demographics for a Mac user is completely different, doesn't take a genius to realize Mac users tend to have more financial leverage, they are also less guarded about storing sensitive information and significantly less likely to have security software, sure there are less of them but the chances of profiting from each one is far higher[/citation]
Actually there is a bit of interest in hacking windows machines for information. Most enterprises use windows as their OS of choice.
Actually there is a bit of interest in hacking windows machines for information. Most enterprises use windows as their OS of choice.
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thats a whole different kettle of fish requiring real research, if you plan on infiltrating a company for commercial information via a PC then your going have to use a extremely refined and highly targeted attack and more social engineering then facebook can wave a stick at, using a glut of zombie machines to send you every document on that machine would ensure that you be sifting for useful information for the better half of the next decade, also the legal and security resource a mega corp can point in your direction would scare even the most ardent anarchist
thats a whole different kettle of fish requiring real research, if you plan on infiltrating a company for commercial information via a PC then your going have to use a extremely refined and highly targeted attack and more social engineering then facebook can wave a stick at, using a glut of zombie machines to send you every document on that machine would ensure that you be sifting for useful information for the better half of the next decade, also the legal and security resource a mega corp can point in your direction would scare even the most ardent anarchist
[citation][nom]Vladislaus[/nom]I guess this is the reason why it took Windows 7 till December to overtake all versions of the Mac OS X in terms of market share. Keep in mind that Windows 7 achieved the RTM milestone at the end of July and was made available to the general public at the end of October. It only needed less the half a year to achieve what apple achieved in almost 10 years.[/citation]
Err, which December are you talking about? December 2009 or 2010? Because Windows 7 went full release in October 2009, not October 2010. So if Win7 overtook OSX in December 2010, that would be less than a year and a half. I'm not an Apple fanboy, but your post is confusing (and possibly innaccurate).
Err, which December are you talking about? December 2009 or 2010? Because Windows 7 went full release in October 2009, not October 2010. So if Win7 overtook OSX in December 2010, that would be less than a year and a half. I'm not an Apple fanboy, but your post is confusing (and possibly innaccurate).
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[citation][nom]mchuf[/nom]Err, which December are you talking about? December 2009 or 2010? Because Windows 7 went full release in October 2009, not October 2010. So if Win7 overtook OSX in December 2010, that would be less than a year and a half. I'm not an Apple fanboy, but your post is confusing (and possibly innaccurate).[/citation]
What I meant was that Windows 7 achieved RTM at the end of July 2009 was released at the end of October 2009 and by December 2009 it already had more market share than all versions of Mac OS X put together. The Mac OS X was launched almost 10 years ago.
What I meant was that Windows 7 achieved RTM at the end of July 2009 was released at the end of October 2009 and by December 2009 it already had more market share than all versions of Mac OS X put together. The Mac OS X was launched almost 10 years ago.
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Vladislaus:
You do realize that the mac OS market share can never outgrow the mac market share? in short this means that the growth of windows 7 in compare to mac OS x is irrelevant. The only things that are relevant to the claims in the article above are 1. Trendmicro needs us to be afraid and buy there crap 2. The amount of malware crapware and virus that are released and their installed base (though trend forgets to mention any relevant information on this).
You do realize that the mac OS market share can never outgrow the mac market share? in short this means that the growth of windows 7 in compare to mac OS x is irrelevant. The only things that are relevant to the claims in the article above are 1. Trendmicro needs us to be afraid and buy there crap 2. The amount of malware crapware and virus that are released and their installed base (though trend forgets to mention any relevant information on this).
Mac users should be happy the os only had the small market share as there don't seem to be much of a hatch to bend down once the attacks start, windows on the other hand have been under attack 24/7 for years and learned well how to protect its users.
I for one will laugh when the bliss that is ignorance is gone and the cold reality hits their exposed systems! Like sheep in a yard where the wolf only ignores them because he have juicier targets!
I for one will laugh when the bliss that is ignorance is gone and the cold reality hits their exposed systems! Like sheep in a yard where the wolf only ignores them because he have juicier targets!
Hahahaha!! Trend micro, sorry but the credibility of this article just went out the door when I read that. Trend micro can't even make their own decent software.
They withdraw from the VB100 tests because they didn't like their testing methodology, in other words, they kept getting crap scores and they pulled out. http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archive/results?display=summary
They withdraw from the VB100 tests because they didn't like their testing methodology, in other words, they kept getting crap scores and they pulled out. http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archive/results?display=summary
Oh the good old market share myth. If you think market share is as big of a factor as a lot of you tend to think it is, I submit to you this. Apache had, till recently, 70% of the web server share on the internet. IIS has the remaining 30%, yet was hacked far more often that Apache.
Also, don't forget that there has not been one self installing virus for OSX yet, only tojans that have the user screw themselves. Enter my admin account, ok.
And finally, Trend Micro.. yeah, not so much on the credibility factor.
Also, don't forget that there has not been one self installing virus for OSX yet, only tojans that have the user screw themselves. Enter my admin account, ok.
And finally, Trend Micro.. yeah, not so much on the credibility factor.
if one is worried about viruses then they will spend the extra 40 bucks for cornerstone or deep freeze to insure system integrity, or for more tech-advanced individuals they will have a stand by raid setup to avoid frustrations from the more popular website and protocol weaknesses being exploited. There are a lot of threats out there, and more and more are being discovered and exploited every day; therefore, as popularity gains increase with mac os x or future operating systems, they too will experience security flaws and longer patch cycles.
one has to do what they have to do, right.
besides, more antivirus programs are only out there to alert the individual of a threat or possible hole in one's security, in hopes of the user being able to further fortify and prevent the security deficiency from doing harm to them.
one has to do what they have to do, right.
besides, more antivirus programs are only out there to alert the individual of a threat or possible hole in one's security, in hopes of the user being able to further fortify and prevent the security deficiency from doing harm to them.
funny treat Ubuntu is best !! what most forget is that there is a much more active antivirus market on the windows side.. how often does a mac or linux users scan there computer ?? Never !! how does they know then..
I ran across this, while Googling for a Mac version of the game Risk (I know how to search, but "risk" is probably too generic a word to get the optimal results)...this "article" is about the dumbest and most irresponsible thing I've seen, in awhile.
Obviously, the "reporter" is NOT a Mac user and doesn't know the first thing about Macs or decent writing. "Trend Micro" says, repeated several times, is NOT journalism, reporting or anything remotely what a reasonable person should base any kind of decision on...aside from the fact that Trend Micro is total crap.
If the "reporter" got paid for this drivel, the site should dock his pay for posting garbage
Got my first Mac, 2 years ago, and I'll never go back to a PC.
Obviously, the "reporter" is NOT a Mac user and doesn't know the first thing about Macs or decent writing. "Trend Micro" says, repeated several times, is NOT journalism, reporting or anything remotely what a reasonable person should base any kind of decision on...aside from the fact that Trend Micro is total crap.
If the "reporter" got paid for this drivel, the site should dock his pay for posting garbage
Got my first Mac, 2 years ago, and I'll never go back to a PC.
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