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I am posting this again because I never got a complete answer after
providing IPCONFIG and static route information as requested.
I am running a peer-to-peer network with five XP Home machines and one
Windows Me machine. One of the XP machines is the ICS host, sharing the DSL
connection with the others, which I shall call ICS clients. The broadband
connection is shared between the ICS host (running XP) and three of the ICS
client machines (2 on XP, one on ME) using an old HPNA (phoneline) network
(the machines have Phoneline cards and are connected over the telephone
wiring in the house). One of those ICS client machines is also connected via
Ethernet card to an Ethernet switch which in turn is connected to a wireless
AP. This enables the remaining two ICS client machines in the house to
access the AP using wireless adapters.
All of the machines can access each other's shared folders and shared
printers. All can ping each other fine. All can see each other's desktops
using VNC. All can access the shared Internet connection.
BUT -- remember, there are two machines that have wireless adapters and are
not connected to the Phoneline network. WELL, ONE of them cannot be seen on
the network (neither via NET VIEW nor by browsing the workgroup), and the
other one can. Let's call them the "invisible" wireless machine and the
"visible" wireless machine.
The invisible machine cannot even see ITSELF when it performs a NET VIEW or
browses the workgroup. BUT, all of the machines can see it in Explorer if
they specify its name (but not if they browse the workgroup or run a NET
VIEW).
As far as I can see, the settings on the two wireless machines are exactly
the same: same protocols, same firewall settings (disabled). The invisible
wireless machine is running a Microsoft USB adapter and the visible machine
is an Acer Travelmate 290 with built-in wifi adapter.
Here are the IPCONFIG and static route information for the
phoneline-to-ethernet bridge machine, the visible (laptop) wireless computer
and the invisible (desktop) wireless computer:
INVISIBLE WIRELESS COMPUTER:
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : [Computer Name Deleted for
Privacy]
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810X Family PCI
Fast Ethernet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-40-2B-76-8C-B5
Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : mshome.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft Broadband Networking
Wireless USB Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-3A-23-BE-34
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.156
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, April 14, 2004
9:25:11 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, April 21, 2004
9:25:11 PM
---Route Begins Here---
===========================================================================
Interface List
0x1 ........................... MS TCP Loopback interface
0x2 ...00 40 2b 76 8c b5 ...... Realtek RTL8139/810X Family PCI Fast
Ethernet NIC - Packet Scheduler Miniport
0x10004 ...00 0d 3a 23 be 34 ...... Microsoft Broadband Networking Wireless
USB Adapter - Packet Scheduler Miniport
===========================================================================
===========================================================================
Active Routes:
Network Destination Netmask Gateway Interface Metric
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.156 40
127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1
192.168.0.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.0.156 192.168.0.156 40
192.168.0.156 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 40
192.168.0.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.156 192.168.0.156 40
224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 192.168.0.156 192.168.0.156 40
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.156 2 1
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.156 192.168.0.156 1
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
===========================================================================
Persistent Routes:
None
VISIBLE WIRELESS COMPUTER:
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : AVI_LAPTOP
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Linksys HomeLink Phoneline +
10/100 Network PC Card (PCM100H1)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-04-5A-94-7F-8D
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast
Ethernet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-02-3F-BB-B7-85
Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : mshome.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless LAN 2100
3B Mini PCI Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-04-23-6F-C3-C0
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.122
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, April 14, 2004
9:25:11 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, April 21, 2004
9:25:11 PM
---Route starts here---
===========================================================================
Interface List
0x1 ........................... MS TCP Loopback interface
0x2 ...00 04 5a 94 7f 8d ...... Linksys HomeLink Phoneline + 10/100 Network
PC Card (PCM100H1) - Packet Scheduler Miniport
0x3 ...00 02 3f bb b7 85 ...... Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet
NIC - Packet Scheduler Miniport
0x10005 ...00 04 23 6f c3 c0 ...... Intel(R) PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini
PCI Adapter - Packet Scheduler Miniport
===========================================================================
===========================================================================
Active Routes:
Network Destination Netmask Gateway Interface Metric
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.122 30
127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1
192.168.0.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.0.122 192.168.0.122 30
192.168.0.122 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 30
192.168.0.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.122 192.168.0.122 30
224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 192.168.0.122 192.168.0.122 30
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.122 192.168.0.122 1
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.122 3 1
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.122 2 1
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
===========================================================================
Persistent Routes:
None
PHONELINE+WIRELESS AP BRIDGED MACHINE:
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : [Machine name deleted for
privacy]
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Network Bridge:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : mshome.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : MAC Bridge Miniport
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-09-5B-60-B4-D4
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.213
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, April 14, 2004
10:28:08 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, April 21, 2004
10:28:08 AM
---Route starts here---
===========================================================================
Interface List
0x1 ........................... MS TCP Loopback interface
0x2 ...02 09 5b 60 b4 d4 ...... MAC Bridge Miniport - Packet Scheduler
Miniport
===========================================================================
===========================================================================
Active Routes:
Network Destination Netmask Gateway Interface Metric
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.213 20
127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1
192.168.0.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.0.213 192.168.0.213 20
192.168.0.213 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 20
192.168.0.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.213 192.168.0.213 20
224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 192.168.0.213 192.168.0.213 20
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.213 192.168.0.213 1
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
===========================================================================
Persistent Routes:
None
All XP computers on the network have the standard XP firewall, of course,
but the wireless and phoneline connections are not firewalled; only the DSL
host computer has the Internet connection firewalled.
How do I make the invisible wireless machine visible?
Thanks!
PS I have a hunch this has nothing to do with networking settings, because
in any case, the "invisible" machine should be able to see itself on a NET
VIEW but it cannot. Ideas?
I am posting this again because I never got a complete answer after
providing IPCONFIG and static route information as requested.
I am running a peer-to-peer network with five XP Home machines and one
Windows Me machine. One of the XP machines is the ICS host, sharing the DSL
connection with the others, which I shall call ICS clients. The broadband
connection is shared between the ICS host (running XP) and three of the ICS
client machines (2 on XP, one on ME) using an old HPNA (phoneline) network
(the machines have Phoneline cards and are connected over the telephone
wiring in the house). One of those ICS client machines is also connected via
Ethernet card to an Ethernet switch which in turn is connected to a wireless
AP. This enables the remaining two ICS client machines in the house to
access the AP using wireless adapters.
All of the machines can access each other's shared folders and shared
printers. All can ping each other fine. All can see each other's desktops
using VNC. All can access the shared Internet connection.
BUT -- remember, there are two machines that have wireless adapters and are
not connected to the Phoneline network. WELL, ONE of them cannot be seen on
the network (neither via NET VIEW nor by browsing the workgroup), and the
other one can. Let's call them the "invisible" wireless machine and the
"visible" wireless machine.
The invisible machine cannot even see ITSELF when it performs a NET VIEW or
browses the workgroup. BUT, all of the machines can see it in Explorer if
they specify its name (but not if they browse the workgroup or run a NET
VIEW).
As far as I can see, the settings on the two wireless machines are exactly
the same: same protocols, same firewall settings (disabled). The invisible
wireless machine is running a Microsoft USB adapter and the visible machine
is an Acer Travelmate 290 with built-in wifi adapter.
Here are the IPCONFIG and static route information for the
phoneline-to-ethernet bridge machine, the visible (laptop) wireless computer
and the invisible (desktop) wireless computer:
INVISIBLE WIRELESS COMPUTER:
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : [Computer Name Deleted for
Privacy]
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810X Family PCI
Fast Ethernet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-40-2B-76-8C-B5
Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : mshome.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft Broadband Networking
Wireless USB Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-3A-23-BE-34
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.156
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, April 14, 2004
9:25:11 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, April 21, 2004
9:25:11 PM
---Route Begins Here---
===========================================================================
Interface List
0x1 ........................... MS TCP Loopback interface
0x2 ...00 40 2b 76 8c b5 ...... Realtek RTL8139/810X Family PCI Fast
Ethernet NIC - Packet Scheduler Miniport
0x10004 ...00 0d 3a 23 be 34 ...... Microsoft Broadband Networking Wireless
USB Adapter - Packet Scheduler Miniport
===========================================================================
===========================================================================
Active Routes:
Network Destination Netmask Gateway Interface Metric
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.156 40
127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1
192.168.0.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.0.156 192.168.0.156 40
192.168.0.156 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 40
192.168.0.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.156 192.168.0.156 40
224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 192.168.0.156 192.168.0.156 40
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.156 2 1
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.156 192.168.0.156 1
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
===========================================================================
Persistent Routes:
None
VISIBLE WIRELESS COMPUTER:
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : AVI_LAPTOP
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Linksys HomeLink Phoneline +
10/100 Network PC Card (PCM100H1)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-04-5A-94-7F-8D
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast
Ethernet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-02-3F-BB-B7-85
Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : mshome.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless LAN 2100
3B Mini PCI Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-04-23-6F-C3-C0
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.122
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, April 14, 2004
9:25:11 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, April 21, 2004
9:25:11 PM
---Route starts here---
===========================================================================
Interface List
0x1 ........................... MS TCP Loopback interface
0x2 ...00 04 5a 94 7f 8d ...... Linksys HomeLink Phoneline + 10/100 Network
PC Card (PCM100H1) - Packet Scheduler Miniport
0x3 ...00 02 3f bb b7 85 ...... Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet
NIC - Packet Scheduler Miniport
0x10005 ...00 04 23 6f c3 c0 ...... Intel(R) PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini
PCI Adapter - Packet Scheduler Miniport
===========================================================================
===========================================================================
Active Routes:
Network Destination Netmask Gateway Interface Metric
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.122 30
127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1
192.168.0.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.0.122 192.168.0.122 30
192.168.0.122 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 30
192.168.0.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.122 192.168.0.122 30
224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 192.168.0.122 192.168.0.122 30
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.122 192.168.0.122 1
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.122 3 1
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.122 2 1
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
===========================================================================
Persistent Routes:
None
PHONELINE+WIRELESS AP BRIDGED MACHINE:
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : [Machine name deleted for
privacy]
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Network Bridge:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : mshome.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : MAC Bridge Miniport
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-09-5B-60-B4-D4
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.213
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, April 14, 2004
10:28:08 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, April 21, 2004
10:28:08 AM
---Route starts here---
===========================================================================
Interface List
0x1 ........................... MS TCP Loopback interface
0x2 ...02 09 5b 60 b4 d4 ...... MAC Bridge Miniport - Packet Scheduler
Miniport
===========================================================================
===========================================================================
Active Routes:
Network Destination Netmask Gateway Interface Metric
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.213 20
127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1
192.168.0.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.0.213 192.168.0.213 20
192.168.0.213 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 20
192.168.0.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.213 192.168.0.213 20
224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 192.168.0.213 192.168.0.213 20
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.213 192.168.0.213 1
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
===========================================================================
Persistent Routes:
None
All XP computers on the network have the standard XP firewall, of course,
but the wireless and phoneline connections are not firewalled; only the DSL
host computer has the Internet connection firewalled.
How do I make the invisible wireless machine visible?
Thanks!
PS I have a hunch this has nothing to do with networking settings, because
in any case, the "invisible" machine should be able to see itself on a NET
VIEW but it cannot. Ideas?