Many HP, Dell Printers Incompatible with Windows RT

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"Unfortunately, manufacturers will likely not build new compatible drivers for old devices, as resources are typically dumped into current products."
Unfortunately for producers, the same is true for buyers: they prefer allocate their budget buying something really useful for their business rather than replacing perfectly working equipment.
 
Probably will enrage consumers when they realise that "Windows compatible" isn't the same as "Windows RT compatible" and Microsoft will cop the blame.

That and people like not having to buy printers which seem to find new ways of justifying selling less ink/$ to you.
 
[citation][nom]diddo[/nom]"Unfortunately, manufacturers will likely not build new compatible drivers for old devices, as resources are typically dumped into current products."Unfortunately for producers, the same is true for buyers: they prefer allocate their budget buying something really useful for their business rather than replacing perfectly working equipment.[/citation]

Ah yes - I've heard those words so many times. Why is your work fleet mostly comprised of Pentium III and a few Pentium IV workstations, minus execs - which have high end equipment? Because it works. Sure it's slow for that new CRM package your company just bought, but if it kind of runs on an underpowered XP workstation, that's good enough. Just keep cycling out those failing hard drives and memory. No sense in replacing perfectly working equipment =-p

Though, to your point, I don't see a business buying RT compatible equipment for the sake of it. Though, if you could integrate Dynamics AX or if there is a Dynamics AX shop floor module, then RT would have a place in many businesses.
 
Well at least they have a print function built into these tablets, which many tablets do not.

I don't really see much of a market for the RT ARM based tablets anyway though. I predict quick and rapid domination by x86 tablets such as the Atom based tablets and the i5 tablets. Realistically the price point on Atom based tablets should quickly lower to the $400- $500 price range.
 
[citation][nom]cscott_it[/nom]Ah yes - I've heard those words so many times. Why is your work fleet mostly comprised of Pentium III and a few Pentium IV workstations, minus execs - which have high end equipment?[/citation]
Gave thumbs up to your comment as it is a good point, but it is just the other side of the same coin (pun intended).
Keeping what works means keeping what is good for your business.
That is an entirely different beast that keeping an S/38 because it just did not blew up in the early '90s.
And, it is an entirely different beast than buying any brand new thing - either an OS or a printer that does not mix well with the rest of your infrastructure - just because it is was shown in the latest advertisement.
What keeps your business running properly should not be touched without a very very good reason, even in years when companies have moneys to throw out of the windows - that's not today.
 
"However the majority of devices are compatible with Windows 8 – so far HP hasn't released a compatibility list for inkjet printers."

So only 34 out of 200 HP devices and 32 out of 110 Dell devices are compatible but that = a majority? I'm confused.
 
I see no problem here. It's all about someone come up with a new driver for the unsupported devices. It won't be that hard to create one, as both windows 8 and windows RT share same kernel.
 
The company I recently started working for will be upgrading all their current computer systems. They're tired of having systems that are "good enough", they want systems that actually work and will provide less headaches for them. For my company "good enough" just doesn't cut it anymore, current systems are Core 2's running Windows XP, and the bare minimum of ram, they're going to be upgrading all their systems to Windows 7 along with modern hardware so we can actually do our jobs. They do have a Windows 8 machine as a test system that they're playing with, but this Win 8 machine could just be a tool so they can have more info on how to TS it. I do tech support for our customers so having modern equipment will make my job easier. The good thing is we don't support tablets/smart phones, we only support PC's, Laptops and Macs. Really though why would you need to print directly from a tablet you can transfer the files to a computer and print from that, and all tablets have that handy Sync feature.
 
So many consumers are going to get pissed and return thier new windows RT device when they get it home and learn that devices with RT are based on ARM and will not run any of thier existing windows software.

MS really should have done a better job of telling the consumer that RT is not the same as windows and that x86 or x64 software will not work.

I was trying to explain to my neighbor that Windows RT and Windows 8 are not the same but he said they looked the same to him and would not belive me. He plans to buy a windows tablet and install his day trader software on it so he can trade on the go. I tried to tell him he would have to go with an i3-i5 model but those cost twice as much as the arm model.
 
business side, non issue - either these things are connecting to a citrix box or RDS system.

Consumer side, kiss your fully functional HP Lasertjet 4200 goodbye, god I love that printer
 
you should be able to get basic functionality by installing the offending device as an "HP Laserjet 4". I have done this on windows many times when the proper driver was out of reach, and just basic printing functionality was needed. Almost all the advanced print drivers today are based on the old HP LJ 4.
 
Many HP printer drivers are incompatible with computer security software! Those HP printer drivers that utilize pre-compiled flash componentsthat can not be updated, and are constantly flagged by my security software. I have solved this by not buying HP printers. Maybe all printers should be forced to use a industry standard printer driver framework that is supplied and maintained by the writers of the computer operating system that comes with the computer! Or maybe the printer makers should be forced to move all their bloatware onto the printers themselves and only accept Postscript, or some other secure protocol to transfer information to and from the printer/scanner.
 
I noticed as much as I love windows 7, the print driver support is really lacking all together. There are a number of HP Printers with limited or no support because the "general" printer driver is suppose to work. I actually liked the Adobe branded print drivers better than the HP because it had all the detailed Postscript lvl 3 options which the HP driver does not.

I guess printers aren't going to exist just like the windows start bar has been taken away with windows RT/Windows 8. Personally still use my printers. Go figure.
 
My Canon imageCLASS 8180C works in Win 8, but I only tested for print and fax. Scanning hasn't been tried yet. However, it really wouldn't be a big deal for me to create an XP Mode, Hyper-V XP instance, or some other XP VM and scan that way if I really needed to. Win 8 (at least the PRO edition) comes with Hyper-V so you don't even need VMware to host a second O/S. However, XP Mode was free, while I suspect that a complete XP instance in Hyper-V on Win 8 won't be.

I am less concerned with printing from a Win 8 RT tablet. That might be good for e.g. a shop floor, a shipping company, or something else where you need to be mobile and also print receipts, labels, etc., but any company large enough to be doing that can potentially invest in a printer upgrade - or in x86-based tablets.
 
Adobe branded printer drivers that can be updated by adobe when security flaws are found, fine, but HP does not update the printer drivers on its printers that have pre-compiled flash DLLs in them, I think that drivers should be moved into the printers themselves, including the bloatware. Printers manufacturers should be forced to move drivers and bloatware to their hardware and printers will have to do more of this work for tablets, dew to the low power/performence of mobile devices!
 
They are getting closer to driver-less printing with the class driver stuff but seriously go the whole way!
It's possible to have driver-less printing!
 
[citation][nom]jn77[/nom]I noticed as much as I love windows 7, the print driver support is really lacking all together. There are a number of HP Printers with limited or no support because the "general" printer driver is suppose to work. I actually liked the Adobe branded print drivers better than the HP because it had all the detailed Postscript lvl 3 options which the HP driver does not.I guess printers aren't going to exist just like the windows start bar has been taken away with windows RT/Windows 8. Personally still use my printers. Go figure.[/citation]Wait, let me get this straight... you're blaming Windows because of HP's limited support? I've had no such issues with any of my Samsung, Brother, or Canon devices. I can't say the same for HP.[citation][nom]zubai[/nom]Meh.. I use canon.[/citation]That's kind of what I was thinking. What about REAL printers, like Canon and Brother lasers? I've even had really good luck with a couple of Samsung multifunction lasers, and they even had good working drivers available for older models.

Anyway, what about firmware updates? Could some of these incompatible models be made compatible if the manufacturer stepped up to the plate? Of course in HP's case, good luck.[citation][nom]annymmo[/nom]They are getting closer to driver-less printing with the class driver stuff but seriously go the whole way!It's possible to have driver-less printing![/citation]This is the best compromise. It gives them compatibility with a lot of current printers. If they went completely driverless right now, it wouldn't work with anything on the market right now.
 
So the PC is getting crippled again because tablet/smartphone don't have sufficient ass to print
This sounds like PC gaming being crippling for consoles, but for functions.
This is where the one OS for all has major problems
 
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