Meet The Tiki: Core i7-3770K And GeForce GTX 680 In A Mini-ITX Box?

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[citation][nom]Iluv2raceit[/nom]Wonderful, nother Falcon Northwest product that 99% of the PC gaming community is NOT going to buy BECAUSE IT IS TOO EXPENSIVE!! No one in their right mind is going to pay the crazy premium just to have a small form factor PC. I would rather spend $2,700 on an Alienware M18X with dual GTX680Ms that would beat the crap out of this system's performance and would come with it's own 18.4" 1920x1080 screen![/citation]

Laptop GPUs will never come anywhere even remotely close to their desktop counter parts. Nice try.

And Alienware isn't fit to lick Falcon Northwest's shoes.
 
Wow. That's the first click-through article where I didn't hate the maker for being an adwhore.
 
I couldn't stop reading >.< This is so amazing. I too, dabbled in the itx land to see what I could fit into a case and was using the zotac mobo. I couldn't get nearly that much power out of it 😛 Also the granite is so full of win. This is like a piece of art and after seeing the R&D involved I can see why it would be $2500. If only the itards would buy these instead of macs.
 
looks sweet as sin .. the kind of sin that makes you say daaaaamn that was great. of course only way i'd ever spend taht much money non a small for factor computer was if i was super rich , , for 2000 bucks if i ahd it right now i'd jsut build myself a super system ina regular ATX form factor with dual vid cards.
 
A comment of mine criticizing this review format has been deleted?? At any rate, a quote of it still appears in a later comment. Come on, TH! Can't you accept criticism?
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We're all about addressing *useful* feedback. Thanks! =)
 

I don't understand, you find that if a reader finds your picture format unfriendly, it is unuseful to you as editor? To the extent that you don't even want anyone else to see it so you delete it?

Well, your picture format renders any review unuseful to many readers. Just look at how many comments you have to delete from unhappy readers.

I understand that you don't enjoy when many readers dislike a new venture you guys tried, but calling a clean criticism unuseful is a bit too defensive.

Assaf
 
Is there an actual market for this sort of build? I don't see many people who want enthusiast-level performance wanting their expensive parts to be crammed into a tiny space for a premium... I personally think that the novelty will wear off before long and won't be worth the risk of overheating components.

I'm just having a little trouble understanding why 100mm was such a priority; couldn't the case be 105 or 110mm to accommodate a superior fan?

For Falcon's sake, I hope I'm wrong and that there are enough people out there who want a minimalist-enthusiast computer.
 
[citation][nom]hellokitty987[/nom]Is there an actual market for this sort of build? I don't see many people who want enthusiast-level performance wanting their expensive parts to be crammed into a tiny space for a premium...[/citation]

While the granite base might throw you off, most people who build mini-ITX desktops (not HTPCs) do so for the portability. Notebooks don't come with the i7-3770k. And this is a tiny little box. But Falcon with that silly granite base seems to be marketing this box more toward richey rich who simply want to show off a tiny but powerful desktop. Either way, it takes up half the volume of my mini-itx portable, and I'm impressed.
 
Slide 22 talks about the video card "intake" fan. I thought the stock fans on most video cards are exhaust fans (blowing air out the slots on the backplate). What am I missing here?
 


Your original comment was off-topic whining. You didn't read the story because you were annoyed. Great. That doesn't tell us anything about what we could improve. And I'm *always* happy to pass that sort of feedback along to our dev guys.

This isn't a review. It's a picture-based walk-through of Falcon's system. Any review we publish is in the review format, as it should be.

Let's keep the discussion on-topic, please!
Chris
 
I really like the picture/story format. To tell a story along with pictures makes it very interesting. I wish there were more of them.
 
[citation][nom]assafbt[/nom]I don't understand, you find that if a reader finds your picture format unfriendly, it is unuseful to you as editor? To the extent that you don't even want anyone else to see it so you delete it?Well, your picture format renders any review unuseful to many readers. Just look at how many comments you have to delete from unhappy readers.I understand that you don't enjoy when many readers dislike a new venture you guys tried, but calling a clean criticism unuseful is a bit too defensive.Assaf[/citation]
These multi-page reviews have been around for years, I remember other reviews where all the content would be on the same page and scrolling down FOREVER. The format isn't the issue, but complaining about the format while having NOTHING to say about the subject of the review makes the comments utterly pointless. You may as well say you don't like a white background. Get over it or go read a review on Engadget instead.
 
This is one of the most interesting articles I've read here. Very impressive engineering. While most of us probably would not buy this, this could be perfect for someone with very tight space constraints. Or a internet/gaming cafe might buy 20 of these.

The 3.5" HDD seems like more trouble than it's worth. I would have stuck with a 2.5" drive with similar capacity, maybe settled for one SSD, which would then have bought me a ton more space.
 
Great story ... great result.

Seeing the work going into putting something like this together is really interesting.

The photos were particularly good ... helped tie the whole story together.

Good tech story.
 


Interesting, so if I am giving criticism about the review's format, it will naturally be on TomHardware, and not about the product.
As you define it, if it is not about the product, it is off-topic.

Hence, all criticism, by your definition, is off-topic.

Great self-protecting logic you've got there, Chris!

Well, I've cast my vote in this, as a decade and a third-long reader who is annoyed with the new dosage of picture-book articles for those who don't have the patience to read. But my vote hit a wall of ego, so I've had enough of this bickering, you heard me and others that were silenced here, "light TH" is not what gave TH it's fastest percentage growth in the late 90's - early 00's, but go metro-UI for all I care, just start listening to criticism instead of deleting it because you're gambling on new demographics.
 
What riser card for GPU did they used? I built a custom case similar to this and I tried an extended pcie flexible riser cable but not that good result. :/
 
This is like 10 years ahead of modern console systems. A well-engineered little machine that beats my pc in size, speed, and power consumption. I think I win cooling though. *wink*

Overall, this is what a console or a prebuilt pc should be like. A well-built system that out-stripes what many of us "casual enthusiasts" can do.
 
Why is it that boutique builders always want to sell you a "custom" system with parts that THEY WANT, and not parts that YOU WANT?

I recently pinged Falcon for a Tiki quote with some minor variations to the components they use in their build (different SSD/HDD), and received a reply questioning my choices. Yet these "changes" I was requesting had no impact on compatibility or thermal/size conflicts. I think when the end-user knows more about what they're buying than the seller, you have a problem!

That's in addition to even failing to address basic questions with regards to shipping, lead times, etc.

I've never purchased from a boutique builder, but if their definition of custom means putting in parts I don't want, refusing to answer basic questions and unable to go the extra mile to obtain readily-available user-specified components, maybe it's time for them to close up shop.
 
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