News Meteor Lake-PS CPUs will be the first chips to use Intel's LGA1851 socket

[Admin]

iBase MI1002 motherboard will sport Intel's LGA1851 socket, with support for the Core Ultra Meteor Lake-PS processors.

Meteor Lake-PS CPUs will be the first chips to use Intel's LGA1851 socket : Read more

 

[CmdrShepard]

Great, more e-waste. Thanks, Intel!

 

[Notton]

Great, more e-waste. Thanks, Intel!

I don't understand how it's e-waste?

SBCs using x86 mobile CPUs have existed for over a decade now. Essentially, they are NUCs without the casing.

 

[usertests]

What is Meteor Lake-N? A rebrand?

 

[cyrusfox]

What is Meteor Lake-N? A rebrand?

Based on the picture and the subtitle saying SBC with Intel Alder Lake N Series, it unfortunately appears you are right

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

What is Meteor Lake-N? A rebrand?

No, definitely not a rebrand. These N-Series processors are usually designed for low-powered and affordable slimline notebooks/desktops, where "efficiency" is the sole concern, alongside performance per watt.

They are based on the same CPU microarchitecture, which Intel uses for it's efficiency/atom (E) cores. I have seen several N-series chips targeted mainly towards entry-level notebooks, Chromebooks, and also for low-power customers.

Like e.g., the Alder Lake-N chips use the "Gracemont" cores, the same core architecture Intel uses for efficiency/E cores in its 12/13th gen lineup. So Meteor Lake-N should also follow the same path.

 

[usertests]

No, definitely not a rebrand.

A rebrand of Alder Lake-N. I know WTF Alder Lake-N is thank you very much.

Meteor Lake-H/U uses Crestmont E-cores, so if Meteor Lake-N is using the same 8-core Gracemont die clocked up 100 MHz, that would be a disappointment. And that is a good guess based on the subtitle in the picture.

It's not like Crestmont is a huge improvement either, just that a full revision of the Atom lineup could make other changes.

 

[thestryker]

A rebrand of Alder Lake-N. I know WTF Alder Lake-N is thank you very much.

Meteor Lake-H/U uses Crestmont E-cores, so if Meteor Lake-N is using the same 8-core Gracemont die clocked up 100 MHz, that would be a disappointment. And that is a good guess based on the subtitle in the picture.

It's not like Crestmont is a huge improvement either, just that a full revision of the Atom lineup could make other changes.

I think the point is more that Intel doesn't do what you're describing so it doesn't make any sense to put credence into what the slide shows being accurate. They're not bashful about single generations using different core designs, but they don't fake code names when doing so.

 

[usertests]

I think the point is more that Intel doesn't do what you're describing so it doesn't make any sense to put credence into what the slide shows being accurate. They're not bashful about single generations using different core designs, but they don't fake code names when doing so.

There's already been a leak of "Twin Lake" being a minor refresh of Alder Lake-N, and now we have a "Meteor Lake-N" image showing "Alder Lake N Series" inside.

I would put nothing past Intel, their naming schemes are a mess.

 

[CmdrShepard]

I don't understand how it's e-waste?

SBCs using x86 mobile CPUs have existed for over a decade now. Essentially, they are NUCs without the casing.

I was referring to the ever-changing number of pins and new socket layouts -- they just can't let a single CPU socket last for more than 2 years in consumer space.

 

[Notton]

I was referring to the ever-changing number of pins and new socket layouts -- they just can't let a single CPU socket last for more than 2 years in consumer space.

Well at least this new socket has additional features, like an additional x4 PCIe 5.0 lanes.
You no longer have to drop your GPU down to x8 connection when you plug in a Gen5 NVMe SSD.

 

[CmdrShepard]

Well at least this new socket has additional features, like an additional x4 PCIe 5.0 lanes.
You no longer have to drop your GPU down to x8 connection when you plug in a Gen5 NVMe SSD.

Oooohhh!!! How very generous of Intel to give us consumers WHOLE 4x PCIe 5.0 lanes!

And that after PCIe 5.0 being mainstream for like what, at least one year if not more?

Are you even sure those lanes come from CPU and not from chipset? If the latter then it's not even a socket feature and there was no need to change number of pins and socket layout YET AGAIN.

I mean, with last year's Xeon CPUs and W790 chipset you can have from 64 to 128 PCI-E 5.0 lanes (depending on the CPU installed) plus whatever amount of lanes that comes from the chipset itself and it's not even that much more expensive than the cosumer crap with the bare minimum of improvements and no upgrade compatibility to speak of which they shovel at people shamelessly year after year because they can.

 

[Notton]

Are you even sure those lanes come from CPU and not from chipset? If the latter then it's not even a socket feature and there was no need to change number of pins and socket layout YET AGAIN.

The rumors and leaks for Meteor Lake-S widely point to 16+4x Gen5, 4x Gen4 off the CPU, and 24x Gen4 off the Z890 chipset.
These rumors and leaks have been consistent for a year.