News Meteor Lake seemingly struggles against AMD's Phoenix APU in early MSI Claw review

[Admin]

The Meteor Lake-equipped MSI Claw was trounced by the Phoenix-powered ROG Ally in an early review, especially at low TDPs.

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[salgado18]

It's amazing how can vendors still use Intel hardware for power-limited scenarios. Time and again it has been proved that AMD has more efficient CPUs, but do they listen? Noo, a very cheap chip (it has to have a big discount) is too tempting to pass. But now we are stuck with the majority of notebook designs using Intel, and lacking options woth AMD hardware.

 

[peachpuff]

Surprise surprise, intel loses when its not boosting to 300+ watts

 

[Notton]

Just 2 months ago, you had a news article about Meteor Lake being 10% faster than 780M at 28W TDP.

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-com...the-graphics-performance-compared-to-i7-1370p

What changed since then?
And I checked, the only difference between 155H and 165H is a 50Mhz bump in GPU clock speed.

 

[peachpuff]

What changed since then?

Those are intel supplied numbers and are in a laptop not a handheld, that's the issue.

 

[salgado18]

Just 2 months ago, you had a news article about Meteor Lake being 10% faster than 780M at 28W TDP.

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-com...the-graphics-performance-compared-to-i7-1370p

What changed since then?
And I checked, the only difference between 155H and 165H is a 50Mhz bump in GPU clock speed.

That's according to Intel, in unspecified scenarios. Cyberpunk 2077 (according to them) is 4% faster, but we don't know the specific system they used. Did they use a highly ventilated notebook which let the turbo boosts go wild, while keeping the claim of 28W with many caveats?

Want to be sure? Wait for third party benchmarks. But there is no miracle: Intel stuff today is hot and loud.

 

[Pierce2623]

Just 2 months ago, you had a news article about Meteor Lake being 10% faster than 780M at 28W TDP.

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-com...the-graphics-performance-compared-to-i7-1370p

What changed since then?
And I checked, the only difference between 155H and 165H is a 50Mhz bump in GPU clock speed.

What changed is those number were in synthetic benchmarking and everybody knows Intel tunes their stuff to score unrepresentatively good in benchmarks.

 

[DaveLTX]

What changed is those number were in synthetic benchmarking and everybody knows Intel tunes their stuff to score unrepresentatively good in benchmarks.

And also, cranking up power limits absolutely helps when the arch is less efficient
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No surprise meteor lake is less impressive than Hawk or Phoenix. Then tack on how varying Arc is. It's not outright broken at times like it was but it still goes from broken to working across titles. Especially if you run a older title

And also, what on earth is "unoptimized software" when it's running windows and x86?