[SOLVED] Micro-stutter with all processes

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So I recently upgraded to a RTX 2070, with that I am not sure if that is causing my issue. Here is the deal, everything I do and I mean everything I am getting consistent micro-stuttering, if that is a word. Even simply watching Netflix, micro-stutter when the camera pans or something of the sort. While playing GTA V I have no issues generally until a couple hours in then it will either have the micro-stutter issue or just freeze up all together and kick me out. AC Odyssey seems to be sluggish and choppy, even while limiting FPS to 50, and Forza 7 runs perfectly during game play like during a race, but any cinematics or cut scenes run like crap and stutter.

Nothing is over heating, GPU hits 68 C max, CPU hits 49 C max, during benchmark with Time Spy on 3D Mark. Here are some odd readings though. During the bench mark, the GPU never gets over 9% load and the CPU averaged in the high 70's and maxed out here and there. When 3D Mark tried to load the second graphics test, the program dumped and kicked me out. Crazy thing as well, there are uniform load spikes from the CPU and GPU in unison as I am just sitting here typing this out. RAM stays consistent, not fluctuation. I have updated all drivers, and even went as far as completely restoring windows to try and fix this issue, nothing has worked. Like I had mentioned earlier, I started having issues when I upgraded to a 2070 from a 1050Ti. I also stepped up monitors from a 60hz 1080p to a 144hz 1440p.

Here is what I am thinking, either something is going out like the CPU, or my power supply can't handle the upgrade, PC specs are below. One thing I also noticed is the stuttering got worse, significantly worse to the point where program windows stutter while being dragged across the screen, once I hooked my old monitor so I could see a live feed of the read outs while bench marking. I included anything I could think of in case anyone agrees that it may be a low PSU output issue.

Any help would be beyond grateful before I just cave and start buying components until it goes away, not how I would like to spend money right now.

PC Specs:
MOBO Gigabyte Gaming 7
i5 6600K OC'd by MOBO to 4.2Ghz, air cooled by a Hyper 212
16GB G. Skill Ripjaws 3200Mhz
RTX Gigabyte 2070 running at 1890Mhz core clock and 1750Mhz Memory clock
EVGA 650W 80+ Gold PSU
Windows runs off a 970 EVO NVMe
For games I have 850 EVO and a 860 EVO SSD's
Have additional WD Blue 7200 RPM 1TB HDD
Fan's- 5 120mm Corsair RGB, 1 140 Corsair non-RGB

I am sure I have left something out so please ask away. This could not be more frustrating.
 
Solution
Doubtfully. I think it's definitely a software issue at this point. If your games are working okay for now, then at least that's half the problem solved. Honestly, I'm not sure what would cause sfc or DSIM to fail unless the OS is bugged. I mean technically it could be something is unstable hardware related, but if you're running base clocks on everything we can only assume software.

Try running memtest 86. (RAM)
Try running Prime 95 (CPU)

A fresh copy of windows from the Microsoft webpage is really the only sure way that your OS is completely clean.
The most likely causes for your issue would be:
1. Drivers not installed properly
2. Unstable Overclock
3. Not enough power

I have built dozens of computers, and whenever I had this issue, it is usually one of those three things.

Step 1: I would try removing the overclock first as this takes the least amount of work. IF the problem goes away, it was most likely the overclock.
Step 2: Check your graphics drivers. The easiest way is to use DDU in safe mode then re-install them from the Nvidia webpage.
Step 3: Run a Admin level command prompt and type: 'sfc /scannow' to check windows for missing files that could cause instability (not likely the issue)
Step 4: If nothing above works, I would buy a 800W power supply. You are using a 650W power supply. The RTX 2070 requires 550W of power. You always want plenty of headroom to prevent issues. (The same could be said for using a drive with greater capacity than needed.)
 

ajdemoulpied

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It is not running an overclock after the CMOS clear and I have already run DDU to clear any display drivers and reinstalled them. I ran that command prompt and a window flashed and then disappeared faster then I could possible read anything that it may or may not have displayed, I am guessing that's a good thing?? I have been leanign toward a PSU issue since I have put this GPU in there and I to have a 750w EVGA 80+ Platnium sitting in my Amazon cart that I have been contemplating pulling the trigger on. Perhaps stepping up to the 850 wouldn't be a bad idea as I have planned on a custom loop water cool in the near future. I suppose it will not hurt and it is only future proofing the new build that is coming anyways with new MOBO and CPU.
 


it's not a good thing for the sfc window to disappear. It should display information open in the command prompt. Try running it again.
 

ajdemoulpied

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Tried, no luck. I restarted as well after many attempts and still nothing. Window flashes and that's it.

Here is a report during that attempt if it helps.
https://pastebin.com/xq4Eb3fw
 

ajdemoulpied

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I went line by line for everything in device manager and everything shows up to date. I also replaced the PSU this evening, but it doesn't seem like much has changed, so far. Here is a report I got shortly after starting up. I hadn't even done anything yet and the readings from this one are the highest yet.

https://pastebin.com/eN61A9wV
 

ajdemoulpied

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I have not tried that, didn't cross my mind to try honestly. I have been at work the past two days so I am finally back to get back at troubleshooting this. I went ahead and bought a new PSU and replaced it. went with an 850W. Doesn't seem to have made a difference, but I haven't done much yet either, wanted to get an update up. Here is a report that I ran shortly after getting it back on after replacing the PSU.

https://pastebin.com/eN61A9wV
 

ajdemoulpied

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Restored windows. Went through all the updates and made sure all the drivers were good. It seems like games are running better for sure, at least AC Odyssey which is certainly smoother, but I suppose time will tell over the rest of the day. Although, the sfc scan is still crashing without opening. It does seem like I am still have some issues being reported in latencymod though, here the report from today.

https://pastebin.com/kttuxr5c
 

ajdemoulpied

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I did the "reset this computer" and completely reinstalled windows by removing all the old files. I tried that DISM scan and it did the same thing as the other one. Windows pops and then goes away.
 


Hmm that's strange...
 

ajdemoulpied

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Could it be the result of the motherboard or CPU starting to fail and they just haven't completely given up yet? At this point I am ready to do whatever it takes to get this thing back in working order.
 
Doubtfully. I think it's definitely a software issue at this point. If your games are working okay for now, then at least that's half the problem solved. Honestly, I'm not sure what would cause sfc or DSIM to fail unless the OS is bugged. I mean technically it could be something is unstable hardware related, but if you're running base clocks on everything we can only assume software.

Try running memtest 86. (RAM)
Try running Prime 95 (CPU)

A fresh copy of windows from the Microsoft webpage is really the only sure way that your OS is completely clean.
 
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ajdemoulpied

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I ran both memtest and Prime95 with no issues or errors. The max temps on the package were 67, 69, 64, and 67. That was during a blend test, small bit test, and the smallest bit stress test.

I am going to buy a new copy of windows from Microsoft and reinstall a fresh copy of windows. While the one I have been using is legit, it's not from windows and it is not based on a normal consumer key. I got it for like 26 bucks from Kinguin back when I first built the PC over 2 years ago.

UPDATE: I got windows re-installed, updated and good to go. Again I tried to run sfc and it wasn't having it. I did get it to work by running Powershell. I ran DSIM first, it downloaded some files and then I ran sfc /scannow with no issues what so ever. I am going to reinstall the games, programs and other things and see how it is running now. I will update later on today.
 

ajdemoulpied

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As far as I can tell so far, everything is running perfectly, in fact better than ever it seems. All my overclocks are more stable and I was able to push them further, games run smooth and perfectly, and I have not had any issues with processes involving windows, software, or anything else really! I guess it took a whole new copy of windows to get everything back on track. I cannot thank you enough for sticking through all of this and helping me out!
 


it's no problem at all. I was just making sure you weren't spending money on unnecessary hardware. Usually if something isn't working properly, you want to start in the software side of things, as if you can get it working there, it won't cost you a thing (usually). That being said, I am really happy things turned out well for you. Make sure you place this thread as solved. :) If you need anything else, feel free to pm me or create another thread. Thank you :)