Microsoft Announces Windows 10 China Government Edition

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Nearly 20% of the world's population lives in China. If you're trying to run a global business, ignoring that segment isn't the best strategy.
 

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Out of the box, Microsoft said that the Windows 10 Enterprise Edition OS already has a massive suite of security, deployment, and management features out of the box, but the China Government Edition will let its users remove features that are not needed in government work. One example Microsoft gave is OneDrive. In addition, government officials can use the management feature to monitor and deploy updates as needed, or they can embed their own encrypted algorithms into the software.
So... China gets to get rid of the deadwood that a Government doesn't need... Well a Government doesn't need Cortana either.... Corporate America doesn't really need OneDrive, let alone Cortana. For that matter, average joe citizens don't need the extra conveniences. They might desire them after using them, and they might not. They might investigate first and decide that even in the "lesser" data collection mode MS is gathering waaaaaay to much info through these conveniences (I heard that the lesser was still like 80% of what you do and type... and the full was like 100%. Verify this by reading the Developer's Edition release on what they collect. (Mind you the way its worded, it excludes previous editions.)

So... Gimme a stripped down version of Win 10. One with all the required security and update features, and none of the bolt-on convenience features that feature "I spy on you for my writers." The Microsoft Store is useless... Win 10 spies on you... Yeah... "non-identifying" data.... in and on its own perhaps, but databases are tied together.... your SIM card ID alone isn't exactly identifying on its own... get to access a database at the phone company, all of a sudden, you get more data on it, and some of that data is identifying. Win10 would be much better if it wasn't for all the MS spyware that they refuse to let us have an honest say in, and option of, disabling.
 

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I want to get a copy (license) of this and see just how stripped down it will go. Is it sad that right now I'm envying the Red Chinese?
 

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So it's just like normal Windows 10 except that ALL of the big brother features are activated and can't be turned off by the dirty masses.
 

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ntlite can allow you to remove all of what you talk about whithin an ISO then install that iso but you may have to modify or find modified files that allow the removal of some or system breaks.
 

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There are methods to disable unused Windows features already, although you can safely ignore what you don't use instead with no ill consequences. All this paranoid talk by users who don't actually have the capability to dissect what data leaves their PC is quite hilarious... security experts have already combed over it, sorry.

If you're paranoid, you can dial it down to Enhanced or Basic or even disable it with third-party software. But keep your paranoia under control and stop spreading false information.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-telemetry-secrets/
 

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Chineese goverment would be absolute idiot to use that OS from Microsoft.
Being an American company we have no idea how many backdoors/vulnerabilities it will have by NSA/CIA/FBI and whatmore to spy on China.
 

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Sorry. When you ask the fox for credentials to watch the hen house, that fox will produce papers alright, convincing papers at that. Some of these "professional" experts aren't much better than armchair "experts"... and when studies are done that involve a party that has something to gain or lose, the study usually presents its data favorably for that party when they fund or actively participate in it, Happens all the time. Follow the money. Also... First rule of sound security: Trust nothing. Don't take anybody's word for it and vet it yourself. After all, malware and spyware never introduce themselves for what they really are, no matter what form they present themselves in. China's involvement in developing the China Government Edition is no coincidence. They were there to monitor and check for spyware, back-doors, and other things they find undesirable.
 


China also likely wanted its own big brother monitoring, backdoor, etc installed instead of just making sure non of that is in the code.
 

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Removing some of the Microsoft 'crap' that should never be part of a professional OS should be a standard feature (OneDrive, Cortana, Telemetry, ...). Creating a 'special' version of the OS is a logical continuation of this (the user is too dumb to add or remove features himself, isn't he?), but it is the beginning of a very slippery slope for so many reasons. MS should should instead concentrate on solving problems of the core OS that are still persisting years after they have surfaced, e.g. :
- why does explorer UI lag when performing file and folder operations? Why do we still have problems removing files when viewing all files because of thumbnail files). Why is explorer so poorly customisable (libraries, logical containers, folder and drive hierarchy...). This THE essential OS tool.
- why do you need to be schizophrenic to perform OS settings, jumping from 'Settings' to 'Control Panel' as and when needed.
- why is theming so badly executed in W10, quite a step back from W7?
- why is W10 so bad at handling dual or more screens? We need special tools just to keep the icons in place, for god sake!
- handling of different resolutions and pixel densities good be much better ...
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Oh yes: we really needed 3D paint!

End rant ...
 


Probably just like normal Windows with who can do the spying changed from MS to China's government if I had to draw a conclusion here.
 

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ArsTechnica: Windows 10 doesn’t offer much privacy by default: Here’s how to fix it - 8/4/2015

too bad updates overrode whatever you set them to.


ZDNet: Windows 10 sends data to Microsoft, despite privacy settings - 8/13/2015


Forbes: Microsoft Admits Windows 10 Automatic Spying Cannot Be Stopped - 11/2/2015


Computerworld: You still can’t turn off Windows 10’s built-in spyware - 1/19/2017

EFF: With Windows 10, Microsoft Blatantly Disregards User Choice and Privacy: A Deep Dive - 8/17/2016

theINQUIRER.net Microsoft says its best not to fiddle with its Windows 10 group policies (that don't work) - 5/23/2017


EDIT: Corrected punctuation and spelling.
 
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