Ahhhh... yeah. Never used it.
I heard about the Ryzen 9000 gaming buffs with the recent W11 update... nothing I'm gonna notice either way.
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Ahhhh... yeah. Never used it.
I heard about the Ryzen 9000 gaming buffs with the recent W11 update... nothing I'm gonna notice either way.
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I Second this question. I have to keep win 10 for healthcare software support. Besides, the majority of windows users are still on ol’ reliable 10.
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The thing is…zen 4 benefits from this update as well (sometimes more so than zen 5, sometimes less) so the effective gaming difference between zen 4 and 5 is still the same according to the Hardware Unboxed graphs I looked at.Ahhhh... yeah. Never used it.
I heard about the Ryzen 9000 gaming buffs with the recent W11 update... nothing I'm gonna notice either way.
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Maybe, but not likely. Win10 is in end of the line support now, so no "new" features aka they do as little as they can to keep win10 secure.
Win10 support end next year... so very slim chance...
Yeah.... as said earlier the $100 difference between 7950X and 9950X comes out to about $10 per 1% of performance increase according to random comparisons I've seen... so it was definitely not a dealbreaker for me... I went with Zen 5.
The only gaming I do is flight/racing sim stuff... hoping MSFS 2024 is more optimized than 2020 but if not that's fine too.
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The intel core and e core madness work as expected on windows 10. Windows 11 can park a little better the cores but the latency is amazing
It's likely using a 33600bps modem on a 486 with turbo button active.
If you want to work with the computer with out hiccups "put in HIGH performance" and kids remember the "extreme performance high end is bad for your cpu".
It's likely using a 33600bps modem on a 486 with turbo button active.
If you want to work with the computer with out hiccups "put in HIGH performance" and kids remember the "extreme performance high end is bad for your cpu".
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Not long ago i made a debloated version of 26100.1 . Can i keep that or it has to be at least 26100.1591?
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Try it. See how badly it blows up.
Of course, you'd only do this with a known good full drive backup, right?
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Yes. Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 is available now and is supported with security updates until 2031.
I guess I'm in a select group when I say that I really like W11... even better than my previous favorite... XP. I don't get all the W11 hate. 🤣
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Not a Microsoft fanboy either... I think their "support" is absolute garbage and I'd rather walk barefoot over hot coals than deal with MS "support."
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And considering win10 has less junk running in background, unlike win11 keeping my cpu busy and power bill higher/battery drained faster just to make MS more money.
And recently HW unboxed showed win10 still faster than 11 in some games, probs due to the extra stuff running.
For me it is because i have amd zen 3. As I understand win11 only became necessary for intel's thread director for intel 12th gen and up.
And considering win10 has less junk running in background, unlike win11 keeping my cpu busy and power bill higher/battery drained faster just to make MS more money.
And recently HW unboxed showed win10 still faster than 11 in some games, probs due to the extra stuff running.
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Sigh. If only it was that simple. You cannot use that tool on a single partition (only a whole drive with no partitions, and you cannot merge partitions while retaining data) . You seriously think I didn't think of this? Worst answer!
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Yes, and I made that perfectly clear in my original post that this was the issue. If you have a multiple partition drive using MBR, moving to Win 11 is not a simple and seamless procedure you can trivially solve with built-in Windows tools with no data loss. That was my point. For me this differentiated it from any previous Windows upgrade I have done.
BTW: The Windows 11 Installer happily let me format my existing MBR Win 10 OS partition in the Windows Setup, without warning me before I did that that I would not be able to install Windows 11 to it(!). So I was left with a blank 160GB MBR partition and a 800GB MBR partition with all my data on it. Neither could be used to install Windows 11 to without erasing all data.
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I offer an option to people that refuse to use windows 11 that most people seem to not know about. That's all. Better windows 10 IoT LTSC 2021 with 10 years support than sticking with an out of date OS. I use a mixture of windows 10 ltsc and windows 11 enterprise on various pc's. I run windows 10 LTSC on pc's that don't need new features, so my old thinkpad and my HTPC. I use windows 11 enterprise on my gaming pc. The only things I don't like about windows 11 is forced file grouping in file explorer that I fix with WinSetView and I fix the start menu, context menus, and taskbar "always show all icons in system tray" with StartAllBack. Windows 11 is fine except people are just resistant to change for the sake of being resistant to change. If those people would spend an hour to get windows 11 how they like it it wouldn't be an issue but here we are.
Windows 11 is much faster than windows 10 now. They just backported the Windows 11 24H2 zen 3/4/5 enhancements to Windows 11 23H2 with KB5041587 that's available now if you go to settings and check for updates. My black myth wukong benchmark went from the 125fps that I was getting last week with a 5800x3d and 4090 at 1440p (default graphics settings except with ray tracing maxxed out) to 145 fps with the KB5041587 update yesterday. Microsoft and AMD finally optimized windows 11 for Zen 3/4/5 and those optimizations will likely never come to windows 10 since they're phasing it out. If you care about performance you'll switch to 11 now and make sure you've got this update.
Why would you not notice massive cpu optimizations that greatly improve performance?Ahhhh... yeah. Never used it.
I heard about the Ryzen 9000 gaming buffs with the recent W11 update... nothing I'm gonna notice either way.
I'm running a 5800x3d and a 4090 and my black myth wukong benchmark at 1440p with default settings except with ray tracing maxxed out was 125fps last week and after the KB5041587 update is 145fps. What you're saying is you don't care about a massive performance uplift because you can't be bothered?
Ummmmm.... no. What I was saying when I said it was "nothing I was going to notice" was based on some of the benchmarks I ran the other day when I built the PC... specifically the "top 1%" results on 3DMark and Superposition. When you're at the top are you going to notice the same massive performance increase as someone who is in the middle?
Anyway... I just checked W Update and it shows this update so will install it when I get home and see what kind of bump it gives.
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Agree. It was a bit rough at the get go, but now it's pretty much problem free. I use a few tweaks - StartAllBack is a great little utility to get some stuff I want back. Especially, being able to put the taskbar on the left part of my screen. WQHD monitor - and I don't need to waste space in the horizontal.
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I'm sure it depends on your situation. You probably don't work with new along with old hardware but I have to. I'm not the guy you asked, but mbr is so much easier to work with using easybcd and you can manipulate bcd all kinds of ways. Dual booting windows and linux is easy to set up and maintain in case the windows bootloader gets trashed and if that happens the linux bootloader can't be touched by windows at least. So windows bootloader on boot drive with the linux bootloader on a separate drive with linux installed on it with an entry in the windows bootloader pointing to it. That way I don't have to wrestle the linux bootloader and if something happens to it I can recreate the linux bootloader on the other drive without messing with the windows bootloader. I can recreate a windows mbr bootloader in 5 minutes and it just works. EFI is harder to recreate and set up for custom configurations. So you have an mbr boot disk and for all additional drives over 2tb just use gpt. Also, you can take a boot drive from a brand new cutting edge pc and if the pc dies you can pull an old dell out of the closet with a core 2 duo and 4gb ram and boot the mbr boot drive from a newer pc to get you by temporarily. Yes, I know that's janky and I don't generally recommend doing that because of possible driver conflicts but it is an option. You can't do that with EFI. EFI makes linux boot more complicated. The only time I'd recommend EFI boot is when you really need secure boot or booting from nvme. I only use EFI boot on my high end gaming pc because booting fron nvme requires it and besides that I got tired of fighting against EFI more and more every year where it's forced on you and your pc won't work without it. I only use it when I have no other choice.
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