Microsoft Charging OEMs $85 for Windows RT

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A future conversation from the Creating Fails Anonymous group: "Hi, my name is Steve Ballmer. I pushed Windows 8 to have Metro UI and made it the way it is."
Moderator: "I'm sorry this support group isn't for you. You will need to attend the meeting for ginormuos epic idiotic fails."
 
I always thought that Windows 8 had the potential for putting an end to ipad domination. I also stipulated that in order to dominate the market, Microsoft needed to focus on making money with the Metro marketplace and not the windows 8 software. Meaning, they would practically have to give the software away since the market is already dominated. The seemless integration bettween the tablet, phone, Xbox, and computer is a great idea, but they need to take a lesson from motorolla and all these other jokers trying to compete in the market place. If you price yourself out of the market, you will fail. "PERIOD".

Also as far as the office software is concerned, I have pages and numbers on my ipad and in alot of ways, they are much easier to use than word and excel (especially for personal use) and, they only cost $10 each. The only reason why microsoft has survived so far is that people really don't have much of a choice when buying a computer in order to stay compatible with everything. Once more and more things become browser and cloud driven, maybe more people will switch to a linux distro, or chrome unless Microsoft changes its strategy.
 


Metro isn't even that bad, especially on a tablet or smart phone where it is actually a good UI.
 


At the least, Google would probably need to carry out on the promise of more seamlessly mashing Chrome and Android and would need to do so properly before most people could even consider using it instead of Windows. Even many Linux distros would be far better options than what Chrome OS is now.
 
[citation][nom]killerclick[/nom]That's still cheap considering it can run all x86 applications Oh wait, it can't[/citation]

Ah, but it will include Office RT, which will likely be Word, Excel, PowerPoint & OneNote. Price that out versus the current "Home & Student" version of Office @ $80, then $85 for Windows RT AND Office RT, is a pretty good deal. That's not to say that people will bite, but Windows RT devices won't have the fragmentation issues that plague Android.
 
So, if true, it means MS doesn't want ARM tablets to use non-MS office suit, probably trying to force business users in MS Office usage. This is marketing gambling...MS may lose completely the non-Wintel market.
I would say RIP Win8RT.
I had a talk with Apple programmists recently, they say No way ever Apple to make iOS a real standalone OS with a file structure and external storage. It is absolutely against their marketing goals.
So, in my sole opinion, Android will rule them all, it is just a matter of time. And I am not a fan of any particular OS. Google just needs a true Linux kind of OS that can run Android apps on all kind of devices and they pretty much can conquer the laptop, desktop and workstation markets. they are almost there...
 
[citation][nom]Ananke[/nom]So, if true, it means MS doesn't want ARM tablets to use non-MS office suit, probably trying to force business users in MS Office usage. This is marketing gambling...MS may lose completely the non-Wintel market.I would say RIP Win8RT.I had a talk with Apple programmists recently, they say No way ever Apple to make iOS a real standalone OS with a file structure and external storage. It is absolutely against their marketing goals.So, in my sole opinion, Android will rule them all, it is just a matter of time. And I am not a fan of any particular OS. Google just needs a true Linux kind of OS that can run Android apps on all kind of devices and they pretty much can conquer the laptop, desktop and workstation markets. they are almost there...[/citation]

Programmists?
 
with MS all you have to do is look at their business model. Why would they want to potentially lose sales of full x86 licenses and office, to their own ARM tablet, for which apps tend to run in the $0.99 - $4.99 range. These are only an attempt to:
A. catch consumers jumping over to the ipad, who will not purchase a win8 PC again.
B. get metro in more peoples faces so they can hopefully sell more phones. That's where the future is.

Specifically the ARM based 10" tablet is an impractical, expensive, unnecesasry device (although I love em). I think there isn't any room for mega success there other than the ipad, just like the ipod, and its a dead end in its current form.
 
Microsoft's OS for Tablets should be called Windows ME2 because "me too" is about the best way they've been coming up with products.
Nope; I don't have an Apple PC; but let's face it, from the Netscape disaster to oh so many other failures; M$ seems to be behind the curve pretty often for a company that size.

 
[citation][nom]caedenv[/nom]Win8RT comes with Office suite, there will not be a non-office version. What they need to do is have a 'home' and 'pro' version so that there can be cheap products for consumers, and then charge a little more for domain functionality and other business class services. Having a $100 OS will not make business buyers blink... but nobody is going to spend the same cash for a stripped down version of windows as they do for the real thing.[/citation]

Nah, what will make the business buyers blink is the lack of Active Directory support.
 
[citation][nom]freggo[/nom]Microsoft's OS for Tablets should be called Windows ME2 because "me too" is about the best way they've been coming up with products.Nope; I don't have an Apple PC; but let's face it, from the Netscape disaster to oh so many other failures; M$ seems to be behind the curve pretty often for a company that size.[/citation]

Netscape disaster? It took MS a while and some cheap moves, but they killed that competitor a long time ago. As much as I hate to admit it, that was a win for MS in the long run.
 
That quoted price means nothing. $400 is a hard ceiling. The iPad is too dominant. To stand a chance, there needs to be killer apps and sub-$300 devices like where most netbooks fall. Like netbooks, we are talking $20 licenses at most.
 
I get it, MSFT: You're a corporation, and as such, you have a responsibility to your shareholders to increase value and deliver a high return on our investments. Yes, I'm a shareholder, and no, this isn't the proper way to voice my opinions on corporate strategy. But here I go anyways: Is MFST really trying to be relevant in the 2010's? If so, then why is it doing business like it's still the 1990's? The OS isn't where the value is, it's the app library. Give the damned OS away, and get the subscribers on board to pay for content. If this $85/license figure is correct, then Mr. Ballmer really is an emperor with no clothes.
 
blazorthon, may I ask you, how old exactly are you? Do you qualify for the minimum age requirement to post in this forum or you lied creating your profile? Because excuse me, but you sound exactly like the mommy's little sunshine trolling around.
You comment a lot in this thread, but most you wrote is between questionable and a complete nonsense. But you love to directly offend others who don't share your opinion.
 
blazorthon may I ask you how old exactly are you? Do you qualify for the minimum age requirement to be allowed to write in this forum, or you lied when created your profile? Because excuse me, but you sound exactly as the mommy's little sunshine trolling around.
You commented a lot in this thread, but most you wrote is between questionable and a complete nonsense.
But you love to directly offend everybody who don't share your opinion.
 
only way to make windows rt relevant is to give it totally free - yes you heard it, give it away for free, then, maybe, and i mean maybe, when you get any market share start charging $10 for it.
 
[citation][nom]Jaquith[/nom]Office 365 cost per user: $4/mo [$48/yr] (Exchange only) to $20/mo [$240/yr] (Online + Desktop), and while the Business $6/mo [$72/yr] is the best 'deal' the FREE Google App Business (10 user) is a no brainer.[/citation]
$6 a month ($72 a year) isn't bad for an "office suite" that is on a cloud. That includes like 2GB of storage. A retail version of Office is about $150~300 depending on your needs... and if you're buying a NEW office every 2-3 years, then the price is no big deal.

Keep in mind, you can only install Office on 1-3 PCs, depending on your license type. While O365 will work from any computer anywhere as your log-in is what matters.

I want and hope the Open standard gains traction... once MS-Office is not longer THE STANDARD... MS will be in deep doo-doo.
 
Considering how horrible it is to run Metro & win8 desktop on the same system is stupid bad... I predict that Win8 will blow up in MS's face.... their Phones aren't flying off the shelves, there is no tablet officially on the market, Windows8 is not broken with its ties to Metro...

This is going to be worse than Vista / ME put together.
 


How have I directly offended people who don't share my opinion? Sharing my opinion here is bad? Well, I might be wrong about this, but I thought that sharing our opinions is exactly what most of the posts in this thread are doing.
 
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