News Microsoft confirms four Xbox exclusives coming to PS5 and Switch, sees a future 'Where every screen is an Xbox

[ilukey77]

That's not in question, the question is if it will always be a big enough market for sony and MS to make enough money to justify keep making consoles.

Playstation yes because they have been crushing exclusives for a few gens now ..

Xbox seem to be moving into different directions i dont see xbox turning a profit but lets be honest with the trillions and trillions behind them why do they need to 69billion for bethesda and blizzard with little to show for it screams to much money !!

 

[TechLurker]

Have you seen how big the PS5 is?! And that barely plays one game, a sony console that would play multiple games at once would be the furniture to rest the 4k TV on...

Also it seems that everybody thinks that I'm talking about imminent even though I said multiple times that it will take a long time.

I was speaking more long term. Like how the processing power of an entire room of legacy mainframes is now slower and weaker than the smartphones we hold in our hands. And with continuing advances in digital upscaling and computing power, it's not impossible that one day there might be a console that can handle 2-4 720p concurrent game instances upscaled to 1440p or higher, allowing for a future take on 4-way gaming on one console, but instead of having to be on one massive TV, it'd be across 2-4 TVs in different rooms. Families could game together for game night if they wanted, or siblings could play different games at the same time while their parents also use the console to stream movies. All from 1 home entertainment device, while using thin-clients to provide a local link to say, gamepads and headphones.

As well, if console makers begin investing in their own "game streaming consoles" and infrastructure akin to Luna/Stadia while allowing use of owned digital games akin to GeForce Now, some of those gaming instances could be shifted to relying on network bandwidth instead of running off the central console, using the same thin-clients.

Sure, some prebuilt and most custom PCs will beat the console experience, but it's never going to be as user friendly or idiot resistant as consoles, or even as cheap. Even moreso when it comes to becoming the primary home entertainment hub.

Dramatic Examples of the possible future would be:

The Sony Home
- Relies on strong hardware to act as both a local gaming server and home media server, and integration with various Sony products to enhance the capabilities or accessibility.
- Sony TVs in each room have built-in thin-console elements allowing not only responsive TV UI, but allows for remotely connecting to the "PlayStation Prime" console for either localized gaming off the PSP and installed games, or connecting to the PSN and streaming digitally owned games. Would have built-in connectivity to link to PS gamepads and headsets (which would also allow for quiet movie nights too).
- Sony "PlayStation Link" boxes, which basically act as both a Roku Ultra + connection point to either the PSP or PSN while providing wired/wireless connection to PlayStation peripherals, mainly gamepads and headsets. These would allow non-Sony TVs to have features akin to Sony TVs.
- Sony sound systems would have special built-in 3D audio gaming modes that enhance gameplay, for those who want to be immersed in their game, and could switch to 3D audio theater mode for watching movies, intelligently adjusting the soundpoints for each individual present (maybe through the PS Camera).
- Sony Portable consoles would allow for similar features to the PS Link boxes, and even Sony VR Headsets might have a similar elements integrated; allowing for an Apple VR-like experience, but with the Sony ecosystem and VR games on Sony.

The Xbox Home
- Relies on reasonably strong hardware to act as both a local gaming server and home media server, but relies more on the internet and network to enhance capabilities or accessibility.
- Focuses more on providing value through MS' dedicated servers and Xbox Live/Xbox Gamepass, as they don't have the same level of integration capability as Sony.
- The "Xbox Prime" would be their high-end console that serves as the central hub.
- "Xbox Links" would be "streaming consoles" that can sync up to the Xbox Prime to play downloaded games, or can access Xbox Gamepass and stream games, while also serving as a peripheral link for gamepads and headsets. It also acts as the Roku Ultra replacement, allowing TVs to have access to the Xbox ecosystem while also having a more responsive UI to access apps and content.
- Games designed for Xbox would be almost equivalent to the Steam version, if not outright equivalent and just run at optimized settings, as Xbox of this future would have ceded the hardware race with Sony to an extent and instead leverage their superior server access under MS.
- Xbox Tablets could be produced as a spin-off from MS Surface line, intended to stream Xbox games and play them on the go that way, paired with an Xbox controller.

The Nintendo Home
- Would be similar to the Xbox Home, but more focused on portable gaming and online connectivity.
- They might have one "Nintendo Prime" console that sits at home, but they would continue the Switch concept of having a portable device that could plug into docks to enable gameplay on TVs, and could either stream games downloaded to the home console or from the Nintendo network, or play games downloaded to each individual Switch.
- Might open up their ecosystem to allowing some 3rd party apps like Netflix, Roku, Prime, etc, if only to also offer on-the-go streaming of movies, videos, and music, providing an alternate use to their Switches beyond gaming. However, they won't go the full mile of making the Nintendo Prime a true multimedia server like Sony or Xbox, focusing more on providing exclusive games.
- Might offer the unique capability for the Switch to be used as a smart remote for the Prime console at home. Such as becoming the controller with extras; maybe games played on Nintendo Prime would have special shortcut buttons available on the touchscreen (effectively becoming like a hotbar of skills/abilities/items), or move the mini-map and menu access to the Switch's screen, allowing for less main screen clutter and faster game management.

 

[ilukey77]

dont get me wrong i dont hate xbox and think everything playstation is the best but when i buy both consoles which i have for years i want to see new and exciting games for my consoles..
So i expect great exclusive games for both consoles ..
sadly playstation not xbox has been crushing it for a few gens now ..

People almost always buy where their friends are which for some reason Xbox hasnt seemed to get the memo on that ...

You offer good quality and a decent amount of exclusives on xbox people will stay at xbox because thats where their friends are..

Otherwise they will move to the competition ..

Ive tried the few games that have been crossplay Xbox with PC its MEH at best ..

Xbox keep pushing this play anywhere BS why would i want to play my exclusive Xbox game on a PC ( that costs more ) when i have the xbox im lost at Xbones logic here !!

I get the whole play anywhere thing with cloud gaming but myself the switch is okay as a portable device but i still love my 55inch tv for gaming whether xbox ps5 PC ..

 

[thestryker]

Xbox keep pushing this play anywhere BS why would i want to play my exclusive Xbox game on a PC ( that costs more ) when i have the xbox im lost at Xbones logic here !!

It's really simple: consoles don't make money selling services and games do. Microsoft gambled on Kinect and digital living room then lost hard so it's one of those things where they were never going to make up the gap from PS4/XB1 generation no matter what. The only market Microsoft ended up "winning" during the 360/PS3 era was NA, and that got blown up by the XB1 failure. Sony was forced into backwards compatibility which has the benefit of locking people in even more than they otherwise might be. They have also resisted cross play at every turn which means the whole "go where your friends are" comes into play even more.

 

[Colif]

Games have always been the secret sauce. Hardware doesn't sell consoles. Otherwise Nintendo wouldn't still be in "the race" as they always been more about games than hardware. The Sony & Ms consoles almost at cutting edge, thats expensive spot to be in. Not a lot of profit to be had there... Nintendo a few gen behind, though rumours about what next console contains show they getting closer.

So maybe Microsoft think the other two will share but that is just wishful thinking. Won't see Nintendo games on PC anytime soon... Microsoft did kick around idea of buying them as well. They want all the games companies... now they become a publisher themselves. Software is what they are famous for... after all.

 

[ilukey77]

Games have always been the secret sauce. Hardware doesn't sell consoles. Otherwise Nintendo wouldn't still be in "the race" as they always been more about games than hardware. The Sony & Ms consoles almost at cutting edge, thats expensive spot to be in. Not a lot of profit to be had there... Nintendo a few gen behind, though rumours about what next console contains show they getting closer.

So maybe Microsoft think the other two will share but that is just wishful thinking. Won't see Nintendo games on PC anytime soon... Microsoft did kick around idea of buying them as well. They want all the games companies... now they become a publisher themselves. Software is what they are famous for... after all.

Nintendo need to go switch extreme .. to me a cellular switch ( like your 5g smart phones ) so you can truly game anywhere slightly bigger screen more powerful cpu.. but the real kicker should be like the cradle they already have for charging and connection to a TV it should be a Stand alone GPU of sorts that you can plug the switch into and get 4k gaming on a monitor and TV best of both worlds

 

[TerryLaze]

do you really want to start that..
gt7 ,god of war ragnarok , returnal , final fantasy 16 , horizon forbidden west, final fantasy 7 remake , ratchet and clank rift apart ,stray , astros play room, forspoken, ghost wire tokyo .. im sure there is more !!

https://store.steampowered.com/franchise/playstationstudios

It's not like sony didn't smell the coffee...they know where the big market is and they know they have to cater towards it to survive.

 

[ivan_vy]

There will always be a market for consoles..

I have both Xbone series x and ps5 and despite fanboys are going to hate me for hating on Xbox ..

Xbox has done nothing to justify my $750aud ( from mem ) there are little to no exclusives and the okay ones are just that only just okay the rest are bad ..

Anything 3rd party well whats the point of Xbox when the ps5 is just as good if not better in some cases hard ware wise ( yes im aware both are AMD but tunned different )

I enjoy starfield ( i know its got alot of hate ) and the rest im playing old xbox games ..

Am i wrong in saying ( infact can anyone say ) for phill spencers what 60 something billion blizzard and bethesda purchase i feel much like my Xbox purchase ( money spent nothing to show for it )

Then we get the "but but " xbox doesnt need to make exclusives " yes yes " they do consoles are a much cheaper way of playing games than most PC's and like my self i have a high end PC check the sig and i do not like keyboard and mouse games so when i can i play controller only on my PC.

So to me this is Phill grabbing his ankles and coughing for the bean counters at Microsoft !!

Xbox didn't invest in their IP neither create new ones, MS bought his way to the top sellers, but people feel cheated they made big Bethesda, Activision and others and MS tried to make them exclusive, that and PC release same day killed the appeal of the Xbox. GamePass made irrelevant the Xbox.

 

[ivan_vy]

https://store.steampowered.com/franchise/playstationstudios

It's not like sony didn't smell the coffee...they know where the big market is and they know they have to cater towards it to survive.

I'm ok with that, I'm not in a hurry to play PS5 games at 60-70 usd (to recoup the cost of the subsidized console), I prefer pay them 20-30 usd for their PC release (and play on my own fully paid hardware ) an also use mods to get weapons, skins and whatnot in their single player games, as I grow older I have less free time and patience to grind in SP games.

 

[ilukey77]

It's really simple: consoles don't make money selling services and games do. Microsoft gambled on Kinect and digital living room then lost hard so it's one of those things where they were never going to make up the gap from PS4/XB1 generation no matter what. The only market Microsoft ended up "winning" during the 360/PS3 era was NA, and that got blown up by the XB1 failure. Sony was forced into backwards compatibility which has the benefit of locking people in even more than they otherwise might be. They have also resisted cross play at every turn which means the whole "go where your friends are" comes into play even more.

xbone is just as guilty of backwards compatibility ..

Not exactly because making exclusive games for a console sell said console and vice versa making said consoles sells games and services ..

Xbox 360 won Because sony tried to corner the market in ps1 days making companies sign exclusive contracts with sony to make games when xbox came on to the scene game companies gave sony the middle finger and it eventually turned out great for the 360..
BUT
Xbox has been suffering from lack of exclusives for 2 gens now instead of making them they have been promoting there back catalog of games on their platform ( works for the people still stuck playing a xbone 360 game on their xbox series x ) but for most they want new and exciting games .

And promoting play anywhere such as PC or cloud yet like my previous post stated if i buy a cheaper than PC console to play my games i want to have a reason to play my exclusive games on that console ..

Sony is going to resist X play as much as possible they want to sell consoles ... ( 100% a d..k move but is it expected yes )

When your out selling your competition any business is going to protect there position ..

Ill always buy the playstation 100% they offer exclusive games and ive never had a issue with my sony systems..

Im on my 4th xbox series x stupid thing kept over heating and shutting down ( maybe just a bunch of lemons but still ) am i crazy upset about the issues NAH not really more upset at my cost paid with little exclusive games made for it !!

so next gen xbox may not find its way into my house..

But im already sold on playstaion 5 pro !!

 

[thestryker]

xbone is just as guilty of backwards compatibility ..

Microsoft did this from a position of having lost their market and trying to add value. Sony was forced to because it looked really bad that they didn't.

Xbox 360 won Because sony tried to corner the market in ps1 days making companies sign exclusive contracts with sony to make games when xbox came on to the scene game companies gave sony the middle finger and it eventually turned out great for the 360..

No the 360 won because it launched a year before the PS3 and also was priced lower.

Xbox has been suffering from lack of exclusives for 2 gens now instead of making them they have been promoting there back catalog of games on their platform ( works for the people still stuck playing a xbone 360 game on their xbox series x ) but for most they want new and exciting games .

Just because you might not like the exclusives they put out doesn't mean they don't exist. Unless of course you're talking games that won't be available anywhere else except for an xbox console in which case that ship has long since sailed because Microsoft likes money.

 

[ilukey77]

No the 360 won because it launched a year before the PS3 and also was priced lower.

agreed but the ball was set in motion back in ps2 and OG xbox days which is how xbox become popular and that continued on .. plus the added thing that the PS3 was $1000 at release which was crazy crazy pricing but the 60gb ps3 is now a very sort after console for collectors because of it micro sd card reader and 60gb hard drive !!

 

[bit_user]

the PS3 was $1000 at release which was crazy crazy pricing but the 60gb ps3 is now a very sort after console for collectors because of it micro sd card reader and 60gb hard drive !!

Not in the USA. Here, the 60 GB PS3 launched at $600, but I got one for only $540 because CompUSA had a bankruptcy sale and minimum 10% off everything. Nowhere else could you get it that cheap, at that time. I only played it like twice, in fact. I always meant to take an image of the HDD, but never did... However, I never upgraded it to the version of firmware that started breaking PS1/PS2 backward compatibility.

Last year, I got a PS5 disc-based system for $450 (new, sold & shipped by Amazon), which is pretty amazing when you consider what I paid for the PS3, like 18 years earlier.

I think 3DO was the most expensive console launch price I've ever seen. Wikipedia says:

"The 3DO console launched in October 1993 at the price of US$699 (equivalent to $1,400 in 2022)."
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At the time, I thought that was pretty insane. For some perspective, the PS1 launched at $300 in 1995 and then dropped to $200 in '96, when N64 launched at that same price. I got my PS1 in '98 or so, when buy.com had a promotional deal and sold them for a mere $100.

 

[ilukey77]

Just because you might not like the exclusives they put out doesn't mean they don't exist. Unless of course you're talking games that won't be available anywhere else except for an xbox console in which case that ship has long since sailed because Microsoft likes money.

Never said xbox didnt do exclusives but they are very few and either rubbish broken or only just good enough games..

They need some really good exclusive games ..

Sony to a degree does what they did in playstation one days just shove games out and see which ones works..

Xbox has cancelled alot of games looking for that best game like they put all there eggs in one basket with starfield that had only a warm reception !!

 

[ilukey77]

Not in the USA. Here, the 60 GB PS3 launched at $600, but I got one for only $540 because CompUSA had a bankruptcy sale and minimum 10% off everything. Nowhere else could you get it that cheap, at that time. I only played it like twice, in fact. I always meant to take an image of the HDD, but never did... However, I never upgraded it to the version of firmware that started breaking PS1/PS2 backward compatibility.

I think 3DO was the most expensive console launch price I've ever seen. It was north of $600, back in the mid-90's!

Last year, I got a PS5 disc-based system for $450 (new, sold & shipped by Amazon), which is pretty amazing when you consider what I paid for the PS3, like 18 years earlier.

$1000 aud i think was its price

 

[Joseph_138]

It sounds like Microsoft is becoming Sega.

 

[Joseph_138]

Never said xbox didnt do exclusives but they are very few and either rubbish broken or only just good enough games..

They need some really good exclusive games ..

Sony to a degree does what they did in playstation one days just shove games out and see which ones works..

Xbox has cancelled alot of games looking for that best game like they put all there eggs in one basket with starfield that had only a warm reception !!

Most of the best game companies are located in Japan, and Sony has a longer, and better, working relationship with them, then Microsoft does. That's why Playstation gets the most, and often the best, exclusives, where Nintendo relies more heavily on their in house talent, to produce exclusives for their consoles.