Microsoft Disses OpenOffice.org with New Video

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So.... they're bashing Office 2003? They do realize that office 03 and OpenOffice are very very similar, don't they? Also, those testimonies aren't very reliable. Look at the job titles: Police, Teacher, ....

Cops and teachers are two of the most IT-retarded demographics in the world IMO. They are the type of people who know only one method of doing things in only one set of software, and if you change one little thing, they are sitting ducks.
 
[citation][nom]steelbox[/nom]Why don't Microsoft try to make it's software looks better, ratter then try to make the other software looks badder?.[/citation]
Marketing is a lot easier for monopolies than R&D.
 
Mixed batch of responses.
1. I support it, but I've never liked Excel. I preferred Quattro Pro. For personal use now, I have Calc. In the days of yore, I used Enable (great software for its time, but arcane WP interface).
2. I used to fix problems in Word documents by converting them to WordPerfect so I could clean them up, then I'd convert them back.
3. There's a lot to be said for standards, especially in the corporate environment. It is too bad that marketing and availability made MS Office the default, as that made macro viruses the default also.
4. Microsoft's home use program for corporate licensees means I can have MSO at home for $20. I got it, but it has languished, uninstalled. I consider it bloatware; giving me nothing I need that I don't already have. A blank .pst file is 265K. What's up with that???
 
O😵 was great in 2004. The changes to the suite have been few and far between since then. There isn't anything comparable to OneNote, either.

I'd rather pay for Microsoft and know that I'll be compatible with many more people, have real support, and I can get update for my OS and other MS products all at once.

Windows XP, Vista, or 7 + MS Office 2007 or 2010 and I click one button for ALL updates.

No Command Line, and I am not talking about O😵 specifically, but really the only place it makes sense to install or run O😵 is in a Linux distro.

I can't stand Linux

Linux users can't stand Linux.

Linux and O😵 make me feel like I am still dealing with floppy drives, and not the 3.5" ones, I am talking 5.25" floppies. Everything is so cantankerous. Do I really need to spend that much time editing boot options to load pretty much every distro on machines ranging from the latest to old school P4's with AGP cards?

Basically it's 2010. With Microsoft I have had at least 10 hardware changes using 7 in the last year and ZERO BSOD's; all I have to do is call to reactivate, not a big deal. Office has been flawless.

For conveniences like that, I'll gladly pay. Anyone who says that I'm a sucker, even for personal use, needs to get a job or take a personal finance course somewhere.

Maybe research something call entrepreneurship, knowing what capital is, and economics in general. If money doesn't flow from you to someone else, then it can't flow back to you when they want to buy a cheeseburger. How will you get to Upsize them then? Maybe you'll get a raise working at McDonalds?
 
[citation][nom]liveonc[/nom]MS Office is great, if you can afford it. I can't see how criticizing something free will make pirates want to pay for MS Office though. So unless MS wants to offer their stuff for free, they should at least be interested in people who don't want to pay, using something that's free. Even if people can afford to use MS, if they don't want to pay for it, they don't want to pay for it. ;-)[/citation]
Don't think they care about individuals buying office, this video seems geared at stopping companies and corporations from thinking about switching to O😵.
 
I don't think OOo is a bad product, there are many user out there need this open source application. Further more do you think you really need all the great feature from MS?? Im using OOo since many year ago, I'm happy with it so far haven't give me any problem. If there is any issue just google for your answer.
 
The point is if you are a company you dont use open source software. Unless you plan on having a huge IT department that can do all the trouble shooting for you. I use open office for my 4 computers at home but my company has over 5000 computers and I would never want them to leave MS office. You cant beat open office for home use though i dont care what anyone says.
 
After all this time, why is Microsoft suddenly afraid of OpenOffice.org? A company only attacks a competitor when they feel a threat, otherwise they're foolish for even acknowledging the competitor's existence.
 
Oh, and as to complaints -- I have plenty of complaints about Microsoft Word and Outlook. Would Microsoft like to hear about those or just continue to ignore them since they've been problems since at least 2002?
 
I have always used and like MS Office. Apparently I am one of the only people who LIKE the interface in MSO 2007.....

Where I work my boss is cheap....so all of our boxes are Linux and O😵

I do not really like it but have no choice sadly. I can absolutely say that I prefer MSO hands down. It performs better, is more widely adopted, and (at least for me) is MUCH more versatile and easy to use. Writer SUCKS BALLS compared to MS Word - every document I have to make for work takes me twice as long to make than it would in MS Word
 
[citation][nom]killerclick[/nom]Flame bait. Not to say that MS Office isn't better than OpenOffice.org but there are numerous example of free (both as in beer and speech) software that is superior to proprietary alternatives. For example, 455 out of the top 500 supercomputers run on Linux. Two thirds of the web is served by Apache web servers. Firefox is also free. Etc.[/citation]

Everything is free on the interweb regardless of what the license might say...
 
I can't believe no one has brought up the elephant in the room, which is that people who learn to use a particular product aren't usually willing to change how they do things once something works for them. In my opinion anyone who replaces Office with OO and doesn't give it a minimum 6 months to a year for people to get used to how to use it and the process involved hasn't done a reasonable roll out. Also did anyone provide a bridging course for OO Calc as so many things are done very differently. Sure you could leave it up to people's own smarts to work things out but is that a fair comparison? Then complaining about compatibility (which I personally have not had a problem with) would be like OO users complaining about MS not providing odt and ods support back in the day when it wasn't supported by MS.

The other issue I see with this is that I bet they haven't factored in the cost of the OS and the Apps as at least one customer mentioned. There's no doubt that MS has had the bomb under them in the last few years considering the innovation in Office 07 and 10 compared to the jumps in prior versions, I'm sure this is due to the fact that OO has been a much more formidable competitor during this time.
 
The only reason I currently have MS Office installed is because one of my classes require it. Open Office will replace MS for next semester.

Either way I'm hooked on Google Docs. It lacks ALOT of features, but it has everything I need for school. Not to mention everything can easily be found the same time I check my email.
 
Some of the resistance is not surprising when you consider the reactions I get when explaining to people that, in order to send documents to MS Office users you must use the "Save As" option in the file menu. It's just way too much hard work for some people plus, it's so confusing. /sarcasm
 
Tried to encourage a friend to use Open Office and they were afraid to even try it because they didn't know of it. MS Office sounds familiar and they have used it before. Fear is what keeps people from trying new things.
 
They all say "Microsoft Office has better support", but OpenOffice doesn`t need any: it just works!
In Excel 2003 i`ve get an error because i was trying to enter more than 16 digits in a cell - and their support said to me that is a tehnical limitation and according to their EULA i have to live with it - is this the BETTER support ?
How about excel and hyperlinks - every now and then it change the links to my temporarary folder without even asking me if i want to update them!
And does anyone used the big and ugly Outlook ? It give me more errors than any other mail client! When you reach the 6gb PST file size you will understand what i mean - it take up to 5 min just to start... and the archive folder is keept in the same PST so no help there !
And the compatibility thing? MS Office have more problems with file formats (even with it`s own doc & docx)!
I have used both suites in the past 6 years... never had ANY trouble with OpenOffice (regular daily use), and have lots of trouble with MSOffice so: MSOffice cost more, it need daily basis support - and it is not free too, it`s bigger in size and slower in performance.
 
It doesn't really matter at this point. Ok, if you cannot afford a copy of Office, which starts at $99.00 when you buy a new computer, then go ahead and use OpenOffice. I use both Microsoft Office and OpenOffice, when I do not want to waste a license on a temporary computer or if I am in Ubuntu..

It is all a matter of what you want.
 
I saw this video and I can say that is the most pathetic anti open source video that I saw in my entire life.
 
hmmm....I would how much 'training' they gave to each person on a new application. They've been using MS Office for years and they know how it works, then you give them out of their box (safe zone) an give them something new. OpenOffice is just as good and in certain aspects better than MS Office. They need to compare Apples to Apples in terms of user knowledge and training.
 
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