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>unless you do unattended setup files and whatnot

Windows unattended install script generator
https://schneegans.de/windows/unattend-generator

Put the autounattend.xml file in the root folder of the install USB key. Alternatively, insert file into ISO with ImgBurn or equiv.

A much simpler route is to use Rufus (https://rufus.ie) to image Win ISO onto USB key. It has options to disable MS login among other options.
For my workstation / gaming rig, I'm using unattended setup + some custom modifications based on Tiny11, but...

I'm getting tired of having to do those things. I'm also not very optimistic with regards to how long we'll have those options.

I've been playing around a bit with Nobara Linux, which seems to be viable Windows offramp. I hope to find a weekend soon with enough time to (attempt to) get hypervised Windows 11 with pci-e passthrough of my main GPU working, that would allow me to (comfortably) daily drive Linux while getting rid of the last Windows dependencies, instead of booting into Linux now and then.
 
You do know that ANY email account works.
You do not have to create some foo@microsoft.com thing, right?

My "ms account" is a rarely used gmail login.
me@gmail.com, and a pwd. Done.
Seriously.
I don't want my operating system to be associated, even temporarily, with an email identity. I don't want to set up a throwaway account. Given how hard Microsoft is pushing towards mandatory online accounts, advertisements-in-the-os, possibly doing shady data harvesting (I used to think this was slightly paranoid, less so after the last few years of copilot, recall, ...) I don't trust them to not keep a link between the "temporary" online-account and the OS install / hardware-id.

And aside from that, there's still the practical annoyance of the 100% unnecessary requirement to have an internet connection during base OS setup.

It's a shame Microsoft are taking this extremely anti-consumer path – there's a lot of areas where I prefer how Windows work to Linux and macOS, Windows 11 performs pretty well, Windows Subsystem for Linux is great, etc... but the level of <Mod Edit> is getting close to unacceptable.
 
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And nothing prevents you from creating Local Standard and Admin accounts, and never using that "Microsoft account" again.
After creating Admin account just delete M$ account. Same result as using one of the work-around but easier.
 
Is there an official way to setup a computer on a domain?
We literally aren't legally allowed to have everyone share an account.
Yes. When I do a Windows 11 install I always set it up to log into a domain. It's on the screen where they want you to setup a Microsoft account. There's a link there that points to other login options. It will let to select logging into a domain. I just did it on 2 machines on Tuesday. I think it would only be available on Windows Pro editions.
 
Yes. When I do a Windows 11 install I always set it up to log into a domain. It's on the screen where they want you to setup a Microsoft account. There's a link there that points to other login options. It will let to select logging into a domain. I just did it on 2 machines on Tuesday. I think it would only be available on Windows Pro editions.
I build images using the iso from the windows media creation tool.
I don't recall seeing that option, but maybe i just need to look harder.
Normally I would boot the iso and run the bypassnro command to bypass the microsoft forced login.
I would then use our KMS key to change whatever version of Windows, i think it actually is Pro in the iso, to Windows 11 Enterprise before installing all the applications I want and then sysprepping.
 
When you sign in with a Microsoft Account there is all this legal mumbo jumbo for 3rd party softare. When you set up with just a local account you lose a bunch of 3rd party apps on the initial install.
 
In Windows 11 Pro, I've shut down all the features that cause ads to pop up. The only place I see them now is in Outlook, but that will change when I install Thunderbird. Microsoft gathering info from my PC doesn't bother me. Whether I'm using Android or Windows, if my device is connected to the internet, they will get info from it. I do have an older PC (Intel gen. 4 i7 CPU with a Sapphire 8 GB GPU) that has Windows 7 32 bit installed. That PC is never online. If I want to keep prying eyes out of my business, then I use that one.
 
For technician like myself, not able to bypass the Window means the PC cannot be configure properly.
Especially installing drivers for the PC which TBH Windows update driver can be flaw.
How does this benefit every user? FYI Windows 10 all along can bypass why can't Windows be the same?
 
These are the 9 most important words in this discussion, which as of now has 37 replies. Especially the final three words.

There's a difference between "doesn't bother me" and "isn't really an issue", as well as "making Mount Everest out of a molehill".

Do I WANT companies, not just Microsoft, collecting data on me? Of course not. Is it a huge issue that the majority, if not all (assuming you opt out of everything optional), of the data they collect is diagnostic in nature and probably doesn't even approach the level of what Amazon or Walmart or any supermarket, or any Android or Apple app for that matter, collects about you? Not really.

Losing an easy local account option is a blow for repair shops, independent technicians, and even the "computer geek" of the family who has to fix everyone's machines, as well as people who sell their computers and want to do a data wipe and then set it back up in a basic manner for demonstration.
 
Is it a huge issue that the majority, if not all (assuming you opt out of everything optional), of the data they collect is diagnostic in nature and probably doesn't even approach the level of what Amazon or Walmart or any supermarket, or any Android or Apple app for that matter, collects about you? Not really.
No. That is likely how it started in Windows 8 going into Windows 10, but not once the ads began in 10.

An advertising regime such as what Microsoft has built into Windows 11 Advertising Edition doesn't work without deep knowledge of past purchases, timestamps, etc. That devalues the entire prospect and makes it not worth it just in developer time alone, and belies the idea that "only" diagnostic data is being collected at this point.

Common sense dictates this:

Scenario 1
: Some people are clicking in something of an ad in Windows, what did they click on? We don't know. When did they click on it? I don't know. What did they click on before? I don't know. What do you think they'll click on next? That is something we can't reasonably tell.

Scenario 2: Mike Smith (because we have his Windows Account ID #) clicked on and purchased last week a pair of glasses, and two weeks before that he purchased suntan lotion and routinely clicks on both suntan lotion and towel ads. From time to time, also, he clicks on airline ads. Especially, he clicks on ads like this shortly before spring break, and he does this every year. We have a calendar, we can see it, the pattern. What do people in Mike Smith's local area, and state, and region, what do they all click on? We know, because we have their logins, and we Microsoft can sell the data.

Nobody would ever assume that scenario 1 is more valuable than scenario 2. Especially since Microsoft keeps fighting tooth and nail to force users to use the online Windows Account. There would not have been any point to building the API at all. Follow the money.

Microsoft is not consuming most of its time and data collection activity for primarily diagnostic data. The advertisements dictate that this cannot be the truth. Follow the money. Always follow the money.
Exactly!
Add to that, your cellphone.
Yes.

Microsoft did in fact follow the Google Android model, since most users do not care(some are even willing to state it openly that it doesn't bother them, but the user actions tell the story without the words) it was easy for Microsoft to conclude that spying on people would be much less controversial than going with a structured subscription model.

And very likely, spying on people and sending users advertisements is more lucrative than subscriptions would have been. Why have less money in the Microsoft bank account with subscriptions when ads deliver more money than subscriptions to the Microsoft bank account anyways? Users can only pay Microsoft six bucks. Amazon can pay thousands. I wouldn't even be surprised to learn that Microsoft has Amazon on a fat monthly subscription contract for weekly ad telemetry data.

They have your online Microsoft Account number. They know what you click on. It's linked by the reference number, these things always are.
 
No. That is likely how it started in Windows 8 going into Windows 10, but not once the ads began in 10.

An advertising regime such as what Microsoft has built into Windows 11 Advertising Edition doesn't work without deep knowledge of past purchases, timestamps, etc. That devalues the entire prospect and makes it not worth it just in developer time alone, and belies the idea that "only" diagnostic data is being collected at this point.

Common sense dictates this:

Scenario 1
: Some people are clicking in something of an ad in Windows, what did they click on? We don't know. When did they click on it? I don't know. What did they click on before? I don't know. What do you think they'll click on next? That is something we can't reasonably tell.

Scenario 2: Mike Smith (because we have his Windows Account ID #) clicked on and purchased last week a pair of glasses, and two weeks before that he purchased suntan lotion and routinely clicks on both suntan lotion and towel ads. From time to time, also, he clicks on airline ads. Especially, he clicks on ads like this shortly before spring break, and he does this every year. We have a calendar, we can see it, the pattern. What do people in Mike Smith's local area, and state, and region, what do they all click on? We know, because we have their logins, and we Microsoft can sell the data.

Nobody would ever assume that scenario 1 is more valuable than scenario 2. Especially since Microsoft keeps fighting tooth and nail to force users to use the online Windows Account. There would not have been any point to building the API at all. Follow the money.

Microsoft is not consuming most of its time and data collection activity for primarily diagnostic data. The advertisements dictate that this cannot be the truth. Follow the money. Always follow the money.

Yes.

Microsoft did in fact follow the Google Android model, since most users do not care(some are even willing to state it openly that it doesn't bother them, but the user actions tell the story without the words) it was easy for Microsoft to conclude that spying on people would be much less controversial than going with a structured subscription model.

And very likely, spying on people and sending users advertisements is more lucrative than subscriptions would have been. Why have less money in the Microsoft bank account with subscriptions when ads deliver more money than subscriptions to the Microsoft bank account anyways? Users can only pay Microsoft six bucks. Amazon can pay thousands. I wouldn't even be surprised to learn that Microsoft has Amazon on a fat monthly subscription contract for weekly ad telemetry data.

They have your online Microsoft Account number. They know what you click on. It's linked by the reference number, these things always are.
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Senario 1 fulfulled, an option that's been present since Windows 11 launched, and is the same option that's in Apple and Android deviecs.
 
So it seems from a collective interaction with forum members in a civil expression on this subject there a 4 choices one will have to make.


1. Make a Microsoft account to use your Windows on your computer and be a perfect Microsoft customer

2. Make a Microsoft account with fake information and be deceptive to Microsoft from our part from the get go.

3. Bypass the Microsoft account altogether no deception just privacy on our part.

4. Or always option 4 just go way and go to Linux.

This seems so black and white, sign in or bypass it.

We all have a license plate on our cars. Some have the county on the plate you live in depending what state your in.

Can you imagine new rules in an upside down world where your home address is now required on your bumper. We kind of did have that with extra steps in the past.

Years ago you could go to the Department of Motor Vehicle and pay $5 with any plate you wanted full information for. Persons name, home address. Pay your money and walk out with the information.

Laws were changed when this played out and an actress was tracked down from her stalker and murdered paying that $5.00

I will keep my privacy to the best of my ability out of the hands of company's who have there best intention looking out for themselves, oh oh I mean me!

All we want to do is stay private without an account to Microsoft.
 
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This would be bad. I recently purchased a laptop with Windows 11 on it. And I couldn't even access my operating system without going online (until I discovered the work around method through command prompt). We don't want things to be online only. Like smartphones which have a telemetry nightmare. Why does everything have to be connected to the internet 24/7? Or it's not going to work?

Are you seriously encourging no local accounts? You want everything to be trusted through microsoft servers? All data sync'd through the cloud. All your drivers and everything preloaded through servers? No one seemed to care when steam went to online only 24/7 for single player games downloaded. Except if you ever lose your account you lose all your games. Microsoft also tried to make their video game console, xbox one, an online only system. And to disable access to playing offline games (physical media) if you don't connect to the internet.

Things should be backed up by physical media only. Backed up on multiple external or internal drives. The only time you need to connect to a microsoft windows server is to do a windows update, in my opinion. And I usually just download the updates and install them offline.
 
After the initial setup, in what way is creating Local accounts not an option?
Somebody said they should get rid of local accounts. Maybe it was sarcasm as you, the user are forced to connect to the internet to make it initially. I'm just generally concerned about something being properietary or just conditioned to be on the internet 24/7. Why would you be forced to connect to the internet to use something that you paid for? Turning a good operating system into like a smartphone.
 
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Microsoft pushes harder to ‘ensure that all users exit setup with internet connectivity and a Microsoft Account.’

Microsoft eliminates workaround that circumvents Microsoft account requirement during Windows 11 installation : Read more

in other words Microsoft being anti choice anti consumer absolutely can not wait to drop windows altogether if steam os is actually going to work i will quite gladly switch to amd based gpu if it has better support. as so far this whole pushing everyone into one basket to me is not for me.

Microsoft wants to integrated everything under 1 account. the issue is if you upgrade from 10 to 11 you can kiss reusing that reusable licence cause its been eaten by Microsoft.

they will only really 100 percent honor it if you buy it threw the ms store otherwise they want receipts from several years ago lol.
 
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