Microsoft Has Sold 60 Million Windows 8 Licenses

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[citation][nom]ta152h[/nom]It doesn't look too good for Microsoft, when the first thing underneath "Related Stories" is that Microsoft sold 40 million Windows 8 licenses in 1 month. It's only 60 million now? Hmmmm, not good.Let's be real, most of the people posting here are twits who paid for an annoying OS, but don't want to admit they were fools.Windows 8 blows for a desktop. It's awkward and annoying, but it is usable. Even so, there's no reason for it, except within the context of Microsoft making it easier to sell tablets and phones. Once you get used to it on the desktop, if anyone with an IQ of over 110 can without constantly being annoyed with it, then it's a very easy transition to getting a Windows based tablet or phone. That's it. It wasn't made to improve your desktop experience, it was made to make you buy a Windows based phone. Do you wonder why it's coming out now? Now, all you cattle who don't want to admit it's poorly designed for the desktop, just keep reading Microsoft mantra, and keep being what you are, cattle. But, don't come here posing like you've got it all figured out, and those who don't like this Tablet/Phone OS on their desktop aren't being progressive. Some of us CAN think for ourselves, and see things for what they are. We like it that way. Some people are born to be cattle, and those that do, obviously like it that way. It's nice, if you find something you thought you didn't like about Windows 8, just read a Microsoft article on it, and you'll realize you really did like it after all. You just didn't understand your emotions the first time. And remember, cattle, Microsoft loves you. Isn't it nice to be loved? ... and have tiles?[/citation]

Your post is funny. Maybe you should take an IQ test if you can't figure out Windows 8. BTW IQ tests are not out of 100, so 75 is not really an above average score.
Even my tech illiterate wife figured out how to use windows 8 within minutes. I have 3 HTPC's in the house running media center with the Recorded TV HD plugin. I have 26TB between the 3 machines. Windows 8 is worth switching to just for the built in Raid controller. Plus I find it a little faster with many improvements. I will say that the first 3 or 4 minutes can be frustrating especially for novice users.
My 6 year old can even navigate quite easily through metro. I did spend about 5 minutes showing her the ropes. Maybe all you need is a little patience and someone to show you how.

I am disappointed that Media Center did not receive any new features. Booooo Microsoft, but not boo because of something I don't understand.

Ignorance is bliss.
My wife's IQ is 134, so maybe windows 8 is only for smart people.
 
Everyone saying 8 is the same as 7

7 IS THE SAME AS VISTA

Keep saying it, keep getting voted down by morons who have never used vista and 7 side by side, sure granted vista likes a little more ram but unfair to call it when in the day they packed machines with 512mb of ram vs the minimum 2gb today of course 7 is going to seem faster.

The real difference usage wise was 7 has drag up/down windows and a blue-ish theme and wallpaper -- does that really validate a upgrade etc to 7? NOPE

The haters are losing there battle, 8 is rising
 
[citation][nom]teodoreh[/nom]I had a customer the other day, an application crashed, and played music continiously. He couldn't find the appication, he couldn't find the restart button, he was hostage to his PC until he put out the battery of the laptop. Windows 8 are just a bad bad idea. Even worst than Vista and that's the reason:Vista sucked back in 2007, but if you install them on a today's hardware, they are ok. But Windows 8 suck today, and even with 2016 hardware, they will still suck, because their flaw is not hardware requirements or bugs, its flaw is the absolutely irritating user interface.[/citation]

Pick your choice

1) You failed at teaching your customer how to use his computer
2) Your customer is blind and you miscalculated his needs
3) Your customer doesnt know what google/bing is

I still get customers tell me 7/vista is confusing and XP is far easier to use -- in reality its the same to use so its all BS, some people need to pull there finger out, most just need a lesson or 16

Oldies love 8, instead of them putting there mouse slowly somewhere and the start menu disappearing theres a permanent menu onfront of them with there favourite things, they cant miss it!
 
[citation][nom]apache_lives[/nom]The haters are losing there battle, 8 is rising[/citation]

Of course it is, Zune's market share was also rising during its first year, so what? Currently, Windows 8 is doing worse than Vista in terms of adoption rate. Gaining 0.66% in the busiest shopping month of the year is not a failure but a disaster for Microsoft. The upgrade discounts are expiring on Jan 31st, so a gain of 0.66% per month will be the best Winodws 8 will ever get from this point on. How long until they get over 50%?
 
However, this number isn't a reflection of the OS's success, or of how many people have adopted Windows 8. Instead, the 60 million figure includes the number of licenses sold, upgrades, and sales to OEMs.
Yeah this about sums it up. The measure of success is (should be) measured by how many are customers and went out of their way to purchase it. Sales figures posted by a company that twists the OEM's arm into buying a mass number of licenses to keep their volume discount is not measure of success, even though Microsoft like to tout it as so.
 
[citation][nom]ta152h[/nom]It doesn't look too good for Microsoft, when the first thing underneath "Related Stories" is that Microsoft sold 40 million Windows 8 licenses in 1 month. It's only 60 million now? Hmmmm, not good.Let's be real, most of the people posting here are twits who paid for an annoying OS, but don't want to admit they were fools.Windows 8 blows for a desktop. It's awkward and annoying, but it is usable. Even so, there's no reason for it, except within the context of Microsoft making it easier to sell tablets and phones. Once you get used to it on the desktop, if anyone with an IQ of over 110 can without constantly being annoyed with it, then it's a very easy transition to getting a Windows based tablet or phone. That's it. It wasn't made to improve your desktop experience, it was made to make you buy a Windows based phone. Do you wonder why it's coming out now? Now, all you cattle who don't want to admit it's poorly designed for the desktop, just keep reading Microsoft mantra, and keep being what you are, cattle. But, don't come here posing like you've got it all figured out, and those who don't like this Tablet/Phone OS on their desktop aren't being progressive. Some of us CAN think for ourselves, and see things for what they are. We like it that way. Some people are born to be cattle, and those that do, obviously like it that way. It's nice, if you find something you thought you didn't like about Windows 8, just read a Microsoft article on it, and you'll realize you really did like it after all. You just didn't understand your emotions the first time. And remember, cattle, Microsoft loves you. Isn't it nice to be loved? ... and have tiles?[/citation]
Get. A. Clue.
 
[citation][nom]ccovemaker[/nom]It's 7, with fast boot times, built in AV, account syncing bit and other minor tweaks.Oh and Metro which you are totally fine with as a desktop user once you use it more than a week.Considering what I paid for 7 the $40 for 8 is a deal.[/citation]

Windows 8 utilizes sleep states. It can't do anything Windows 7 can't do with the right settings. My system boots instantly every time. Why? Because it is always in a deep sleep state, from which it wakes quickly. Again, Windows 8 does not power on any faster than Windows 7.
 
[citation][nom]teodoreh[/nom]I had a customer the other day, an application crashed, and played music continiously. He couldn't find the appication, he couldn't find the restart button, he was hostage to his PC until he put out the battery of the laptop. Windows 8 are just a bad bad idea. Even worst than Vista and that's the reason:Vista sucked back in 2007, but if you install them on a today's hardware, they are ok. But Windows 8 suck today, and even with 2016 hardware, they will still suck, because their flaw is not hardware requirements or bugs, its flaw is the absolutely irritating user interface.[/citation]

Vista is slow due to loading so much to RAM. However, in practice it works just about like Windows 7. My gf didn't want me to reinstall Vista onto her system but I wasn't about to pay for the upgrade to Windows 7 when Vista is working just fine on her E6600 system. As a rule, you upgrade when there is a need to do so. If you build a new system, throw Windows 8 on it. If you already have Windows 7 there is little point in upgrading.
 
[citation][nom]SchizoFrog[/nom]1,000,000 : 1 eh? Could you talk more out of your arse please? Thousands of computers are sold each day and they ALL have Win 8 pre installed on them now.[/citation]

WRONG... There are over 400 NEW models (Desktops and laptops) at TigerDirect that still come with Win 7 installed.

There are over 900 NEW models (Desktops and laptops) at NewEgg that still come with Win 7 installed.

Conversely:

There are around 180 NEW models (Desktops and laptops) at TigerDirect that come with Win 8 installed.

There are around 300 NEW models (Desktops and laptops) at NewEgg that come with Win 8 installed.

Don't believe me, go to the sites and check it out yourself...

It is therefore likely that at this point in the game, Win 7 is outselling Win 8 on NEW machines. I doubt very much that it is 1 million to 1 but equally pulling it out of your ass to say:

" Thousands of computers are sold each day and they ALL have Win 8 pre installed on them now."

But then I guess you're probably a Win 8 fanatic anyway. If I'm buying a new computer, you can bet mine will have Win 7 on it.
 
[citation][nom]internetlad[/nom]That's like saying cars with a manual transmission are bad because somebody who is used to autos doesn't know how to drive them. It's not the computer nor microsoft's fault that user didn't take the time to properly learn the features of his new computer from documentation provided either by the manufacturer or with the windows 8 tutorial that shows when you start your PC for the first time. In either case ALT+F4 would have, and always has, brought up the power menu immediately, Alternatively, CTRL+ALT+DEL would have brought up the option to access the sign in/out menu and log off from there (not as intuitive but follow the breadcrumbs)I do agree that inside the charms menu is not the most inuitive place for the power button in windows, but I think that in this case it was a clear issue of the user not taking the time to properly learn the item they're using.[/citation]

Wow, MS propaganda is working big time with you... You just basically used the 'You're holding it wrong' argument to explain away a Win 8 problem. Apple and MS would be proud!
 
Scaring.
60 M licenses translated in 2% user share (Netapplications) after 2 months and 2 weeks.
That means a lot of unsold PCs taking down the already collapsing PC market.
The crackdown is here, MS deserves a Darwin award for being eradicating itself in a such spectacular way.
 
... i wait till SP1 of Win8... and i hope, that M$ will implement a pure classic XP/7 like desktop mode as a option... i like the engine of Windows 8 Car, but not the design and handling... bring back throttle and brake pedal and the steering wheel...
 
Windows 9 or Windows Blue is already out there.

Windows ate is Vista nightmare all over again.. Only suckers swing at the first pitch!
 
Well, i initially though i disliked Windows 8 because i hadn't really used it, but now that i have a touchscreen Sony Waio E14A sitting at home for review...this is what i experienced:

It has a hard drive. Warm boot time: 35s to Start Screen, excluding BIOS initialization time. Again, the start screen is up doesn't mean that everything's started. The hard drive continues working for at least 15 more seconds, i'm being generous here because i haven't timed it. If you open the desktop in that time, it's still not fully responsive because stuff's still being loaded. Add to the fact that my desktop has an SSD, this laptop feels SLOOOWWW. So Windows 8 has a fast boot time only if you use sleep, i guess. Haven't tried, but i'm going by what people are saying and the one odd video of it that i've seen.

About metro. I always end up feeling compelled to touch the damn thing. So i that respect it's a win. Metro on it's own, i mean. Paired with a touchscreen as in this case. But it's still awkward, because for granular stuff, you're thrown back into the classic desktop. I find myself doing stuff like checking weather and stocks in metro like i use the Notification center or weather and stock apps on my ipod. Or browse random photos. that's about it. That too because i was always fascinated by using a big touchscreen. i feel confused by it most of the time, in the sense that i don't know why i have to deal with it it at all. i go back to the desktop, and most of the time i prefer being there.

So the desktop and windows explorer. They've hidden stuff that wasn't hidden. They've gone over-board with minimalism. The charm bar and recent app gestures are awkward with a touchpad, i end up using the touchscreen for them. Then there's like a thousand times that i want to go to control panel, and i'm about to click start, when i stop and realise that i'll be taken to that huge start screen when i dont want to. I usually pin shortcuts to the start menu, and i also have "Computer" "control panel" "admin tools" "devices and printers" "run" and all in my start menu. I don't have the damned thing here.

Plus the windows 8 start search thingy doesn't return searches for "disk defragmenter" or "windows update"...it returned "defrag" which was the dos based thing that simply opened for a sec and closed.

So i had to click library->computer->right-click C:\->tools->"optimize" to open the disk defragmenter. On my desktop, it's simply windows key->"defr"->press enter.

Oh and, the lack of Aero sucks, i liked it, now this is sort of a colourful flatter version of Windows 98 or something. Though admittedly you get used to it, rather bored of it and ignore it. But why are hidden tabs and ribbons everywhere? it's yucky.

So the story of Windows 8 to me so far has been: Take Windows 7->remove some good things from it->change task manager so that it looks like the one in linux->add some small user features like ISO mounting->change the memory management and other subtle under the hood things that a service pack could do->remove DVD playback and media center->cut up the OS so that Metro is useless without the desktop and the desktop is forced to deal with metro->ask people for $40 to "upgrade".

It's great for touchscreens (though it's occasionally confusing how you're supposed to go "back" and not close the app, sometimes i have to end up closing the app. Sometimes i end up with a blank orange screen until i do something) but what is the point on a non-touch laptop or desktop? Even on a touch-enabled desktop, i wouldn't want to reach out, as i sit further away from my desktop monitor than i sit fro the laptop monitor (it's supposed to be in my lap, anyway).

Don't tell me i have to remember shortcuts i didn't have to before just to justify the $40 i'll spend.

On the article, i agree with Catherine, 60m sold means 6% of the PC market share, where apparently only about 1.8% of the market is actively accounted for by windows 8, the rest are OEM purchases that no one's using.
 
[citation][nom]ccovemaker[/nom]You clearly have never used it.[/citation]
Apparently YOU have never used it. It is EXACTLY designed for tables. THe placement and movement of most of the common things. FILE EDIT VIEW is replaced with FILE SHARE VIEW and some other optoin. Zooming in, is now a toolbar at the bottom of everything that has a slider bar on it (to use y our finger to move). Office 2013, including outlook, is designed to never open a new window and infact just overlay everything that is currently there (because opening new windows on TABLETS is stupid and difficult to work with and gets users frustrated when they dont have a mouse).

This operating system was designed for touch screens. If you can't see it, it's clearly because you don't want to.

Side note: Selling 60 million licenses is a marketing scheme. Dell may have 40 million of them. Doesn't mean they sold them to customers. It means that there is plenty of inventory to go around.
 
[citation][nom]internetlad[/nom]That's like saying cars with a manual transmission are bad because somebody who is used to autos doesn't know how to drive them. It's not the computer nor microsoft's fault that user didn't take the time to properly learn the features of his new computer from documentation provided either by the manufacturer or with the windows 8 tutorial that shows when you start your PC for the first time. In either case ALT+F4 would have, and always has, brought up the power menu immediately, Alternatively, CTRL+ALT+DEL would have brought up the option to access the sign in/out menu and log off from there (not as intuitive but follow the breadcrumbs)I do agree that inside the charms menu is not the most inuitive place for the power button in windows, but I think that in this case it was a clear issue of the user not taking the time to properly learn the item they're using.[/citation]
moronic comment. Windows 8 is a failure of user interface design.

 
[citation][nom]keither5150[/nom]Your post is funny. Maybe you should take an IQ test if you can't figure out Windows 8. BTW IQ tests are not out of 100, so 75 is not really an above average score.Even my tech illiterate wife figured out how to use windows 8 within minutes. I have 3 HTPC's in the house running media center with the Recorded TV HD plugin. I have 26TB between the 3 machines. Windows 8 is worth switching to just for the built in Raid controller. Plus I find it a little faster with many improvements. I will say that the first 3 or 4 minutes can be frustrating especially for novice users.My 6 year old can even navigate quite easily through metro. I did spend about 5 minutes showing her the ropes. Maybe all you need is a little patience and someone to show you how.I am disappointed that Media Center did not receive any new features. Booooo Microsoft, but not boo because of something I don't understand.Ignorance is bliss.My wife's IQ is 134, so maybe windows 8 is only for smart people.[/citation]
another complete f'n idiot who thinks IQ tests mean anything. They don't mean jack $h!t.
 
[citation][nom]edogawa[/nom]For what I paid it was a very good deal as long as you use Start8 to restore the start menu.40$ Windows 85$ Start 8So it's basically a faster Windows 7 in the end for half the price. Metro and the lack of Start Menu were the only real disadvantages to Windows 8. I have not had a single game or program not work, so I'm happy in the end.[/citation]

Why would you pay for start8 when there are programs that do the same thing for free just as well as start8 does its job?
 
[citation][nom]chewy1963[/nom]Wow, MS propaganda is working big time with you... You just basically used the 'You're holding it wrong' argument to explain away a Win 8 problem. Apple and MS would be proud![/citation]

That's not anything close to the "You're holding it wrong" argument. That's more like a "get a clue about what you're doing before you whine about it" argument and it does have merit. Many people complained because it was not the same as the previous OS, not entirely because it was inherently worse, yet they claimed otherwise. People tend to dislike change and complain about it rather than adapt and that was a big problem here. It was not the only problem, but it was a big problem nonetheless.
 
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