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If this doesn't change your mind:
"It appears the new model will also get access to the newer model, but that you'll need Copilot Pro to use newer models when usage is high, as well as to switch between models."
Nothing will.
 
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Has this actually been popular and useful enough to people to give the indication they would be willing to pay for said?

Honestly, haven't used it (knowingly) aside from one time early on attempting to ask it questions that I already knew the answer to. Getting those answers required framing the question such as to get them. Haven't tried again.
 
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Oh, I didn't see this one coming. (edit: This is not sarcasm) What are the chances that Microsoft does a roundabout and says "we will give you Windows for free, just subscribe to Copilot"

BOOM instant Windows as a subscription OS. Except, you subscribed to the other thing.

Sometimes you have to do the action without doing the action. Just "call it" something else with a different label.
 
Anybody have good uses for this?
The preview copilot just seems like a different search engine to me.
Maybe it can be used to make memes? Not really my thing but some people use them. I generally like my pictures to either be real or handmade (if used as art).

I don't want something that is more work than its benefits, but I have no problems using AI if it has something worthwhile.

I just asked Copilot what its uses are and it answered:
"Some of the uses for Copilot are:

Some of that sounds like it could be handy for students looking to do reports with a minimum of effort, and a custom version of Copilot looks like it could be used to replace some office workers. $30 a month sounds like a real bargain there.

But not a lot seems that good for a person like me. I did like being able to ask the source what it is good for though.

If anybody has some good Copilot uses for a lazy non coder who uses their pc for convenience, media and recreation I would be glad to hear them. If nobody can find any that says something about Copilot as well.
 
I asked an AI a while ago what the fastest way to get rich was. It could not give me a good answer and warned me to be careful with investments.
I was expecting more from what is supposed to be a super smart robot. At the same time I was hoping I would have been rich by now.
It's obvious it was toying with me, because now it's charging $ for access and obviously it's going to get rich instead of me.
 
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The Point Of Sale industry tried to move to Linux about 15 years ago because they didn't want to be chained to Microsoft. Overall it failed, and most companies doing so returned to Microsoft. About 5 years ago, most of the big players reversed course again and began developing their applications using Linux. This is going to cement the decision of moving away from Windows back to Linux.
 
rluker5 said:
...Some of that sounds like it could be handy for students looking to do reports with a minimum of effort, and a custom version of Copilot looks like it could be used to replace some office workers. $30 a month sounds like a real bargain there...
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Students have already been using ChatGPT 3 and 4 to do their homework for free. There are many such websites that hook into ChatGPT's API and allow them to copy and paste the answers quite efficiently. MS is essentially charging $20/mo to skip copying and pasting.

But not a lot seems that good for a person like me. I did like being able to ask the source what it is good for though.

If anybody has some good Copilot uses for a lazy non coder who uses their pc for convenience, media and recreation I would be glad to hear them.
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ChatGPT (from which CoPilot is derived) is generally good for basic-to-intermediary tasks. This includes writing a history paper (don't expect it to be 100% accurate), asking for how-to's for basic household tasks, troubleshooting PC hardware trouble, writing a resume/cover letter for a job, learning a new language, and jotting down quick notes when you're having writer's block (could be an email, a congratulatory letter to a colleague, reaching out to an old friend, etc.).

Think of it has a handy assistant who happens to need things explained at a very basic level.
 
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rluker5 said:
If anybody has some good Copilot uses for a lazy non coder who uses their pc for convenience, media and recreation I would be glad to hear them. If nobody can find any that says something about Copilot as well.
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Maybe an issue of Penthouse Letters written in the style of Cormack McCarthy might interest you?
 
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ThomasKinsley said:
ChatGPT (from which CoPilot is derived) is generally good for basic-to-intermediary tasks. This includes writing a history paper (don't expect it to be 100% accurate), asking for how-to's for basic household tasks, troubleshooting PC hardware trouble, writing a resume/cover letter for a job, learning a new language, and jotting down quick notes when you're having writer's block (could be an email, a congratulatory letter to a colleague, reaching out to an old friend, etc.).

Think of it has a handy assistant who happens to need things explained at a very basic level.
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We've seen many AI inspired copy/paste replies here, attempting to assist a member with a specific problem.
95+% of them are pure junk.
 
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Probably going to flop, and hard. It will be integrated in the background for free later. They're just testing the waters here I think. As for LLM themselves I think due to mainstream negative coverage regarding IP theft etc, High (and low) profile lawyers using it to write hilariously inaccurate and even fictional depositions (and the resulting fallout) as well as students outright cheating I think the general public may have, or will turn sour against the tech. It's not going anywhere, but it'll exist behind the scenes, where it belongs.
 
Software rental as a subscription service?
Isn't everyone, like, completely over that business model? Like people are figuring out that it's always a rip-off to the customers, right?
I'm pretty sure the pricing model is why everyone has near universally moved from Premiere Pro to Davinci
Resolve, at least.
I get that some software can easily continue making unlimited money forever from the sheer inertia of forgotten subscriptions and permanent customers who cant cancel because they literally died... but I find it hard to believe new software would be able to attract a new customer base using this rent-seeking behavior.
But maybe it's all just decoy pricing. They're setting us up for when Microsoft goes full supervillain and decides to suddenly force an update that makes 10 billion computers to owe them $300 a year or they'll destroy your property. BUT IT INCLUDES A $20/MONTH AI SERVICE AND A FREE GIGABYTE OF CLOUD STORAGE WHAT A GREAT VALUE!!
 
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Maybe an issue of Penthouse Letters written in the style of Cormack McCarthy might interest you?
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mark me as 'scaroused', jokes aside, this will open the floodgates to even more questionable fanfics, many infringing copyrights far beyond the other bots can detect, add a new layer with graphics and now you have webcomics, manga, video,music and whatever. Guess we need to reverse to a sort of 'proof-of-life' to can claim authoring on a piece of media.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/26/gra...d-music-can-become-eligible-for-an-award.html
 
Copilot is worth his price, but I won't buy it from Microsoft, because I don't like being spied, and I don't like MS installing stuff on my computer.
For the same reason that I disabled Cortana, Onedrive, telemetry and the windows store, I will not use MS copilot.
 
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