Microsoft Security Essentials Fails Certification Again

[jla0]

[citation][nom]sna[/nom]sorry this is not an excuse ... this mean MS are horrible and SLOW on providing definitions updates .. the testing is made using latest updates at fixed date , and they failed discovering KNOWN viruses , viruses that the testers USE to check . this means it is a KNOWN VIRUS .. other wise the tester would never test it.sorry .. your Logic fail here.[/citation]

No. You fail! ...to read the actual results. MSE gets "Detection of widespread and prevalent malware (according to AV-TEST data)" - Industry average: 100 - Samples used: 5,000 - in % : 100

So 100% detection rate for known viruses using standard detection with updates is pretty much.. well PERFECT!

 

[palladin9479]

[citation][nom]internetlad[/nom]actually looking at this website the ratings they give the antivirus are completely non-indicative of the effectiveness. The lowest score it receives is for zero-day attacks, where it catches 71/100 infections. 2-3 month old infections it catches 92/100 and for widespread infections it catches 100/100.How this merits a 1.6/6 is absolutely beyond me. It makes it appear that it fails to catch over 70 percent of all viruses with that ranking.[/citation]

It's all about money. They give MS a low score because not only is MSE free but MS isn't paying money *cough* "hiring" these companies services. If MS would charge for their product and pay money to the "review" companies then it would suddenly get a much better review score. It just like how modern game review sites work, you pay for the review, you get a golden review.

 

[zloginet]

[citation][nom]A Bad Day[/nom]Yet Windows Defender sucks up my laptop's hard drive's read performance. As soon as I run it, playing TF2 or watching a movie turns into a MACRO-stuttering fest.[/citation]

Your laptop (which sounds like a atom netbook) is JUNK.. upgrade the slow piece.

 

[A Bad Day]

[citation][nom]zloginet[/nom]Your laptop (which sounds like a atom netbook) is JUNK.. upgrade the slow piece.[/citation]

Uh, it's an Asus N61Jq. It has an i7 720qm, a Radeon Mobility HD 5730, and a 7200 RPM hard drive.

 

[JOSHSKORN]

[citation][nom]Pinhedd[/nom]The best anti-virus is a smart user[/citation]
Here's a better one: Don't use the internet and share disks. I guess nowadays that renders a computer pretty much useless.

 

[pierre1]

They rate Bitdefender and Trend Micro as the highest scores, that should already tell you that this test is crap. Bitdefender is full of bugs, is only partially effective and consumes the system like no other.
Then you must try and uninstall it, oh boy. I'm convinced that Bitdefender is a virus.

My experience on a site with 43 users.

 

[chicofehr]

What about Malwarebytes?

 

[JJ1217]

I love MSE, because it doesn't slow down the computer. Using it in conjunction with Malwarebytes, imo is unstoppable. No disturbances, and Malwarebytes picks up anything MSE doesn't.

 

[apache_lives]

Trend Micro PC Cillin 50% of the time will install but NOT activate/update asking instead to restart to fix the "problem" but never does

Bullgard (or as i like to call it BULLSH_T) kills emails, updates or simply wont install work (no Windows 8 support im not kidding)

McAfee im not quite sure what that software even does?

Norton (fourTONNE) installs in 7 seconds yet next startup and from there on takes 30 more seconds longer to boot every bootup somehow?

CA lol jks seriously WTF

AVG... a lot of people use it... for the high amount of users using it cant say its bad, but i HATE the scheduled every day scan

Malware Bytes and Bitdefender... LOL

MS Security Essentials i saw transfers and opening apps/files take a big hit and was frustrating



Seriously 99% of malware/spyware just slows down the computers and says its found all this crap and is like BUY ME NOW -- this sounds like every other LEGITIMATE antivirus product out there there no difference i dont know why people bother.

 

[Pherule]

[citation][nom]ddpruitt[/nom]The only people I know of who get malware would get it (have gotten it) even with AV software installed. The people who always have problems never update, download torrentz, go on questionable websites, etc. AV software is like a seatbelt, it makes the crash less severe it doesn't prevent it.[/citation]The funny thing is:
I use XP SP3 but have updates disabled.
I download torrents often enough. Nothing unsafe about it if you know what you're doing.
I sometimes go to questionable websites (potentially virus grounds)

It's not just about common sense, it's about having secondary defenses on top of your antivirus. For instance, if I only used my antivirus as defense, my security would have been breached long ago.

I use Comodo, but I consider these secondary defense layers:
Comodo Defense+ (makes XP act like Windows 7, a new executable will ask permission before loading, although it's far more advanced than this and I believe has better security than Windows 7's built-in method)
Comodo Firewall (for blocking both incoming and outgoing connections that are unknown)
Malwarebytes (virus filter in case Comodo AV misses something)
NoScript (browser addon that prevents most browser-related attacks)
WOT (Web of Trust for warning about risky websites)
AdBlock (Doh)
Flashblock (NoScript doesn't always block flash; Flashblock covers the rest)
BetterPrivacy (cookie safeguard) not sure if this is actually helping, but better safe than sorry
HTTPS-Everywhere (self explanatory)
HTTPS Finder (assists in automatic https redirects that https-everywhere misses)

Yes this is obviously on Firefox.

 

[apache_lives]

[citation][nom]Pherule[/nom]The funny thing is:I use XP SP3 but have updates disabled.I download torrents often enough. Nothing unsafe about it if you know what you're doing.I sometimes go to questionable websites (potentially virus grounds)It's not just about common sense, it's about having secondary defenses on top of your antivirus. For instance, if I only used my antivirus as defense, my security would have been breached long ago.I use Comodo, but I consider these secondary defense layers:Comodo Defense+ (makes XP act like Windows 7, a new executable will ask permission before loading, although it's far more advanced than this and I believe has better security than Windows 7's built-in method)Comodo Firewall (for blocking both incoming and outgoing connections that are unknown)Malwarebytes (virus filter in case Comodo AV misses something)NoScript (browser addon that prevents most browser-related attacks)WOT (Web of Trust for warning about risky websites)AdBlock (Doh)Flashblock (NoScript doesn't always block flash; Flashblock covers the rest)BetterPrivacy (cookie safeguard) not sure if this is actually helping, but better safe than sorryHTTPS-Everywhere (self explanatory)HTTPS Finder (assists in automatic https redirects that https-everywhere misses)Yes this is obviously on Firefox.[/citation]

my computer must have no less then 10 useless applications covering my ancient operating systems security flaws for me to feel safe

XP... LOL

 

[virtualban]

The only problem I got with MSSE is how I can't easily skip or add to safe list upon detection of some of those "hack tools", so I have to keep the "quarantine/delete" window open and go to exclusion lists and add it manually. I guess this is only a bother for those who know what files are actually dangerous, and the general user should have no easy skip option.

 

[Guest]

Best config IMO is: MSE + Running a scan once in a while with Malwarebyte's Anti-Malware + Comodo Firewall.

 

[apache_lives]

multiple antivirus tools = stupid

 

[Pherule]

[citation][nom]apache_lives[/nom]my computer must have no less then 10 useless applications covering my ancient operating systems security flaws for me to feel safeXP... LOL[/citation]
"Ancient" - hardly. It is supported until 2014. I'll upgrade if and when I need to, have time to, and can be bothered to. For now, XP works.

If I were to install Windows 8, I would still use these things:

Comodo AV
Comodo Defense+
Comodo Firewall
Malwarebytes
NoScript
WOT
AdBlock
Flashblock
BetterPrivacy
HTTPS-Everywhere
HTTPS Finder

So basically, everything I'm already using. Those security guards are most certainly not useless. Did you even read the list? AdBlock useless? NoScript useless? You must be kind of special person, or perhaps you're just new to the Internet.

 

[beayn]

This is Microsoft's chance to redeem themselves by creating a free quality antivirus. I'm disappointed that they have gone from being listed as one of the best free AV solutions to nearly the worst in about 1 year.

Did they take resources away from that division or something? It's time to start dumping more resources back in if that's the case.

 

[tomate2]

Microsoft is not a anti-virus company
the fact that it is providing a free and pretty useful one shows its commitment to the consumers and the platform
none of the other more popular oses has anything close to what microsoft is offering as native

 

[beayn]

[citation][nom]tomate2[/nom]Microsoft is not a anti-virus company the fact that it is providing a free and pretty useful one shows its commitment to the consumers and the platformnone of the other more popular oses has anything close to what microsoft is offering as native[/citation]Apple wasn't a cell phone company. MS wasn't a console company... it doesn't really matter.

 

[cgray7]

All I can say is I've been working with micro computers since they were invented, long before Microsoft was a gleam in Bill's eye. I've sold, installed, and supported thousands. I've only ever personally had two systems contract a virus -- both in the last 18 months and both running MSE. I am absolutely switching back to AVG and Avast.

 

[mamailo]

I prefer a false positive than a skipped menace

 

[Raheel Hasan]

I am using this for 3 years and have 0 problems

 

[actionjksn]

For the numbskulls who for some reason or another can't seem to avoid getting a virus, it doesn't matter what AV they use. They will still get viruses regardless. For those with common sense you can ride bareback and still avoid getting hit. I don't need antivirus but I still run MSE just for scanning files and just for an extra layer of defense.I don't mind MSE because it isn't so heavy to the point that it slows down my system like most of the ones that are rated very high for zero day attacks.

There is this one old lady that calls me every time she screws up her computer. I finally put kaspersky Internet Security suite on for her, and this was back when Kaspersky was rated as the best for keeping you from getting a virus. Well guess what, she still managed to get her system infected, with Kaspersky Internet Security installed and up to date! After that I really knew for sure that only you can stop yourself from getting a virus. A program is not going to do it for you. Honestly because I know I can fix it myself if my computer gets infected. I'm really not even all that careful and I still don't have any problem. I download torrents and even watch a little porn. I reinstall Windows every 2 or 3 years just to freshen things up but it's not really necessary.