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AVG is NOT better.
In fact, it's a bloated resource hog, and it's detection ratio was not something I found remarkable (they apparently improved it lately, but it's still one bloated piece of software).
As for MSE... I've been using it since version 1.
And I can't say I had issues with it at all.
I never experienced system hangups during definition updates or scanning (true, the full scan when done for the first time ever is a bit slow to do, but doesn't really kill my laptop when doing other tasks).
All in all, I found MSE to be quite good.
Avast may be a tad lighter and have slightly higher detection threshold along with Avira, but the latter can be attributed to a high number of false positives (which is the lowest on MSE), and Avast did me a disservice few times when it found that all websites I visited were malware infected (a fault in definition updates - but it was enough to get me back to MSE which incidentally also doesn't need a yearly subscription renewal for the free version - some users who aren't computer literate to a high degree have a problem with this particular renewal).
I'm excited to see Microsoft claiming these updates to the software. If they turn out to be accurate, then they will only further improve on an already solid software.
AVG is NOT better.
In fact, it's a bloated resource hog, and it's detection ratio was not something I found remarkable (they apparently improved it lately, but it's still one bloated piece of software).
As for MSE... I've been using it since version 1.
And I can't say I had issues with it at all.
I never experienced system hangups during definition updates or scanning (true, the full scan when done for the first time ever is a bit slow to do, but doesn't really kill my laptop when doing other tasks).
All in all, I found MSE to be quite good.
Avast may be a tad lighter and have slightly higher detection threshold along with Avira, but the latter can be attributed to a high number of false positives (which is the lowest on MSE), and Avast did me a disservice few times when it found that all websites I visited were malware infected (a fault in definition updates - but it was enough to get me back to MSE which incidentally also doesn't need a yearly subscription renewal for the free version - some users who aren't computer literate to a high degree have a problem with this particular renewal).
I'm excited to see Microsoft claiming these updates to the software. If they turn out to be accurate, then they will only further improve on an already solid software.
[citation][nom]segio526[/nom]I think they may be counting Forefront Security (the enterprise version of Security Essentials) as version 3. I've been putting off implementing it at my company until System Center 2012 is released, so I can't confirm the build number.[/citation]
Actually, the "Antimalware Client Version" is 3.x currently (I use Intune, which is based off of the latest release version of MSE, which is also the same as Forefront Endpoint Protection). My copy of Intune has another version number labelled "Windows Intune Endpoint Protection Version" which is version 2.x even though it includes the 3.x listing too.
I think the client software is just a baseline platform, and the UI is customized on top of that. Intune isn't that old, so although the baseline software is version 3.x, Intune is technically only in its second release timeframe.
These are also different from the engine version which is 1.1x
Actually, the "Antimalware Client Version" is 3.x currently (I use Intune, which is based off of the latest release version of MSE, which is also the same as Forefront Endpoint Protection). My copy of Intune has another version number labelled "Windows Intune Endpoint Protection Version" which is version 2.x even though it includes the 3.x listing too.
I think the client software is just a baseline platform, and the UI is customized on top of that. Intune isn't that old, so although the baseline software is version 3.x, Intune is technically only in its second release timeframe.
These are also different from the engine version which is 1.1x
[citation][nom]acerace[/nom]Sadly though, I have problem with MsMpEng.exe, using too much CPU usage even when not scanning.[/citation]
Uninstall, wipe the folder, then reinstall. This works every time I've had this happen (usually caused by an improperly-completed update).
Uninstall, wipe the folder, then reinstall. This works every time I've had this happen (usually caused by an improperly-completed update).
[citation][nom]eddieroolz[/nom]When I reformat my laptop I might ditch ESET and give this a try. I'm just worried about the lack of a firewall.[/citation]
WHAT?!
Every OS has a two-way firewall that includes location profiles now. You don't need third-party crap for that functionality, which is why MSE doesn't included it. Just like third-party all-in-one security suites that try to mitigate Windows Updates but end up shutting them off completely, you don't want some dickcheese company adding smeg into your low-level OS processes where they shouldn't have their greasy fingers in the first place. Windows Firewall is fine. The only thing you need to add to Windows is an antivirus.
BTW: MSE includes the same spyware detection as Windows Defender, and it runs under the same process as the antivirus, which is why Windows Defender is shut off while MSE is running. This is normal. DON'T try turning Defender back on.
Windows 8's "Windows Defender" will include the antivirus scanning engine too though, so you won't need to download MSE on Win8 systems. Basically, when you buy a Win8 system, you won't need third-party software, and you won't need to do anything else to protect the system. Microsoft's got yo back, bro!
WHAT?!
Every OS has a two-way firewall that includes location profiles now. You don't need third-party crap for that functionality, which is why MSE doesn't included it. Just like third-party all-in-one security suites that try to mitigate Windows Updates but end up shutting them off completely, you don't want some dickcheese company adding smeg into your low-level OS processes where they shouldn't have their greasy fingers in the first place. Windows Firewall is fine. The only thing you need to add to Windows is an antivirus.
BTW: MSE includes the same spyware detection as Windows Defender, and it runs under the same process as the antivirus, which is why Windows Defender is shut off while MSE is running. This is normal. DON'T try turning Defender back on.
Windows 8's "Windows Defender" will include the antivirus scanning engine too though, so you won't need to download MSE on Win8 systems. Basically, when you buy a Win8 system, you won't need third-party software, and you won't need to do anything else to protect the system. Microsoft's got yo back, bro!
I've been using Microsoft antimalware products since OneCare was in beta. I even bought a few copies from the US to use it here in Canada before it was available worldwide.
The features were great for XP (disk cleanup, auto-defrag, easy file and printer sharing, etc.), but all of the non-security stuff was put into Vista which made an all-in-one security solution irrelevent.
Also, OneCare was the first product on the market where you could activate one all-in-one security solution on more than one PC. It was also cheaper than the competition. Prior to OneCare, third-parties were often charging up to $100/yr for 1 PC for the same functionality.
You can thank Microsoft for putting the screws to the antimalware industry. The antimalware software industry is full of leeches and the only way they can sell is through scare tactics.
The features were great for XP (disk cleanup, auto-defrag, easy file and printer sharing, etc.), but all of the non-security stuff was put into Vista which made an all-in-one security solution irrelevent.
Also, OneCare was the first product on the market where you could activate one all-in-one security solution on more than one PC. It was also cheaper than the competition. Prior to OneCare, third-parties were often charging up to $100/yr for 1 PC for the same functionality.
You can thank Microsoft for putting the screws to the antimalware industry. The antimalware software industry is full of leeches and the only way they can sell is through scare tactics.
If you go to the About Security Essentials menu option under Help you get this for version info:
Security Essentials Version: 2.1.1116.0
Antimalware Client Version: 3.0.8402.0
Engine Version: 1.1.7903.0
Antivirus definition: 1.117.265.0
Antispyware definition: 1.117.265.0
Network Inspection System Engine Version: 2.0.7707.0
Network Inspection System Definition Version: 10.7.0.0
I wonder about the difference in the Security Essentials and Antimalware Client versions and if it's related to why the beta is version 4
Security Essentials Version: 2.1.1116.0
Antimalware Client Version: 3.0.8402.0
Engine Version: 1.1.7903.0
Antivirus definition: 1.117.265.0
Antispyware definition: 1.117.265.0
Network Inspection System Engine Version: 2.0.7707.0
Network Inspection System Definition Version: 10.7.0.0
I wonder about the difference in the Security Essentials and Antimalware Client versions and if it's related to why the beta is version 4
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It is a great anit-virus program. It's free, uses little resources, and has a simple interface. I used AVG free for a while and quickly switched back to MSE. I think it's one of the few Microsoft programs people have little to complain about.
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[citation][nom]eddieroolz[/nom]When I reformat my laptop I might ditch ESET and give this a try. I'm just worried about the lack of a firewall.[/citation]
If you are on Windows 7 search for a program called "Windows 7 Firewall Control" (or vista) and get the one for your version (x86 or x64). All it does is turn the very good but difficult to configure windows firewall in to a very easy to configure one. It rocks! You will want to disable or change the popup sound though, trust me.
If you are on Windows 7 search for a program called "Windows 7 Firewall Control" (or vista) and get the one for your version (x86 or x64). All it does is turn the very good but difficult to configure windows firewall in to a very easy to configure one. It rocks! You will want to disable or change the popup sound though, trust me.
I would like to see all the posts that get deleted plus all the spam then having every other post deleted on on whim.
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[citation][nom]ghghgghghd[/nom]Question, why do comments just get subjectively deleted even though relevant.[/citation]
The only comments that have been deleted are one about WP7 and one in response to it. How are those relevant?
The only comments that have been deleted are one about WP7 and one in response to it. How are those relevant?
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