Microsoft to Give EU Users a Browser Choice

[daggs]

[citation][nom]demonhorde665[/nom]fuck you you numb nuts euro-trash prick , see there we can throw insults at you too , but it really gets us nowhere. can you please stop bull shitting , i have removed IE from windows xp myself beofore to try other browsers in the past , the os works just fine with out IE. go on call me liar doesn't cahjnge the fact that i ahve removed IE from win xp before , and doesn't cahnge the fact i'l tell you the same thing i told the other guy , when
you do call me a liar.[/citation]
you can remove MSN explorer using the install cd but not ie. these are two different programs.

 

[jimmysmitty]

Well. The EU strikes again. remember next is WMP. The EU is already investigating it. Because making it easy for a consumer to turn their PC on and be able to browse the web or play any music/video file (apart from DivX without the codec or Quicktime without..... well Quicktime) is a sin and should be stopped so that when those that are not tech savvy have no clue what to do without one or which to select will start to bitch about it.

And on that note, Shouldn't the EU investigate Apple since you cannot play a .mov file without Quicktime itself? Every other codec will play on evry other media player when installed but .movs have to have Quicktime. Kinda sounds monopolistic to me, right? "Use Quicktime or you can't play our files!!".

And yet MS doesn't say "Use IE or no web browsing!!".... Kinda makes you wounder why the EU goes after MS and IE but not Apple and QT.....

 

[jamesedgeuk2000]

This is a prime exaple of decisions being made by people who do not understand the subject

the EU are wrong

Windows is an O/S and in 2009 a web browser is a vital part of any O/S, if i buy a new Ford i dont expect the option of a Volkswagon camshaft

 

[malphas]

Microsoft abused their OS monopoly to increase IE's marketshare, everyone knows that. This decision is long overdue and is good news for everyone except Microsoft and the screaming "omg why does apple not have 2 do this?! wuts next!? notepad?! lol" lunatics, basically.

 

[neiroatopelcc]

[citation][nom]malphas[/nom]Microsoft abused their OS monopoly to increase IE's marketshare, everyone knows that. This decision is long overdue and is good news for everyone except Microsoft and the screaming "omg why does apple not have 2 do this?! wuts next!? notepad?! lol" lunatics, basically.[/citation]
It's good for everyone, except those who like a free world with selfregulating industries.

If someone else provides a better product than microsoft, they'll surely see it selling.
Example - winamp (before aol bought it) was so much better than the media player in windows, that practically everyone had it installed. Only when aol screwed up did they actually lose the marked to media player again.
Same with browsers - if any of the alternatives are any good, they'll be installed. And you've had the option of not installing ie since the dawn of time anyway. It can't to my knowledge be removed from the xp gui shell after xp has been installed, but you can skip it altogether - or use a different shell.

This decision only helps the mozilla foundation and google, not consumers or the industry in general.

 

[malphas]

Oh god, do "the free market can regulate itself" extremists still exist, even after the current recession showing how utterly preposterous this line of thought is?

 

[neiroatopelcc]

[citation][nom]malphas[/nom]Oh god, do "the free market can regulate itself" extremists still exist, even after the current recession showing how utterly preposterous this line of thought is?[/citation]
I don't know? I don't know any. But idealists who don't like 105% goverment controlled freedom exist. From my point of view, the artist has the right to decide what is to be included in his painting, not the people that eventually receive the tax money from an eventual sale. And the same goes for any other trade.
Guess you're not bright enough to understand that though, but I suppose bush didn't get to be president twice without lots of dumb people to support him. Go back to your cave!

 

[malphas]

Yes, because my "socialist" (as the EU's decision is being derided as) leaning opinions throughout this thread are so compatible with a Republican party candidate. Not to mention I'm so cleary a US citizen rather than a EU one.

One of the EU's duties is to regulate corporate abuse, I assumed everyone in the World saw the necessity of some corporate regulation after the financial crisis (which was primarily caused by lack of regulation of the financial sector) and dropped this Ayn Rand-reading-high schooler notions about capitalism and the free market working perfectly on their own.

The inclusion of other browsers in Windows 7 isn't going to magically cure everything, but it's better for: non-MS browser developers, users, the Internet, web developers, W3C. Sucks for Microsoft and their fanboys though, but it's directly Microsofts own fault for attempting to lock-in users to IE in the past.