News Microsoft to offer Windows 10 subscription plan for customers who want to keep getting updates after October 2025 — for both businesses and individ...

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Microsoft plans to offer Windows 10 updates for paid subscribers after its official end of support on October 14, 2025. The service will be made available to both businesses as well as individuals.

Microsoft to offer Windows 10 subscription plan for customers who want to keep getting updates after October 2025 — for both businesses and individ... : Read more

 

[Diabl0]

You can actually install Win11 on some very old hardware. With a bit of cheating (Rufus), I managed to install Win11 on a 12 year old laptop with Core i3 370M and 4GB RAM. Works surprisingly well for what I need (Office, Web).

 

[bill001g]

How about a paid subscription service that lets me take only the features I want and are true security issues rather than a excuse for microsoft to force more of its store garbage into the machine. Some of the security updates they documented were for feature I had uninstall. It reinstall the bad thing and then patched it just so I could uninstall it again.

 

[Colif]

this is just the beta run for win 11 subscription when a lot more people find they can't upgrade to 12.

Curious what costs are.

 

[Rabohinf]

And now we have confirmation of what Microsoft's goal was. Many had suspected, but the suspicions were belittled.

 

[Soulxlight]

Microsoft keeps making their core product, which isn't impossible to replace these day as in the past, less attractive. Microsoft should be pushing Windows as hard and as fast as possible so they can sell office and co to everyone. Instead they keep making their core business so much less attractive.

 

[slurmsmckenzie]

I'm guessing this would need me to sign-in to Windows 10 with an MS account? Something I have always avoided and it would be typical of MS to use something like this to force people to sign-in.

I suppose it could be argued that it is the simplest way to achieve it, but still - not for me!

 

[USAFRet]

And now we have confirmation of what Microsoft's goal was. Many had suspected, but the suspicions were belittled.

This existed for Win 7, and I believe XP before that.
For companies, not consumers. But it was there.

 

[Giroro]

That awkward conversation when Microsoft is trying to figure out how to make money from a product that none of their core customers (enterprises) will touch with a 40-foot unmovable task-bar.

 

[Colif]

And now we have confirmation of what Microsoft's goal was. Many had suspected, but the suspicions were belittled.

Lots of people asked them to extend support for Windows 10. I expect its not free for them to continue producing security updates for a product they no longer sell. Most companies just stop completely... like windows has itself in the past. Now they offer a way to extend usage for a small fee and its still not good enough.

Most people who suspected the subscription model say its at launch, not at the end of a products life cycle. Its not forced, its the users choice. If they want to continue using Win 10, pay. Or don't... its only security updates, just use another AV/Firewall.

 

[JonDol]

Lots of people asked them to extend support for Windows 10. I expect its not free for them to continue producing security updates for a product they no longer sell. Most companies just stop completely... like windows has itself in the past. Now they offer a way to extend usage for a small fee and its still not good enough.

Most people who suspected the subscription model say its at launch, not at the end of a products life cycle. Its not forced, its the users choice. If they want to continue using Win 10, pay. Or don't... its only security updates, just use another AV/Firewall.

These practices sometimes look so much like theft in disguise. Prevent users from upgrading to Windows 11 (hardware not meeting the requirements) then charge them for extended Windows 10 support ! Look at those non technical unfortunates that would find it cheaper to pay for extended Windows 10 support rather than buy a new Windows 11 capable device...

My Kaby Lake desktops are not supported (the MBs have UEFI BIOS, Secure Boot and TPM 2.0) and yet they are WAY faster that my work 12th Gen Intel P and U series laptops which are Windows 11 supported.

Funnier yet, these supported laptops are completely unusable until a proper debloat tool is used !

Even if the users would accept non optimal Windows 11 performance with unsupported old devices Microsoft does not offer them a clean way to install, it has to be a hacky one...

 

[TJ Hooker]

My Kaby Lake desktops are not supported (the MBs have UEFI BIOS, Secure Boot and TPM 2.0) and yet they are WAY faster that my work 12th Gen Intel P and U series laptops which are Windows 11 supported.

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Even if the users would accept non optimal Windows 11 performance with unsupported old devices Microsoft does not offer them a clean way to install, it has to be a hacky one...

I briefly tried out Win11 shortly after release with my 6th gen Skylake system, and it was a pretty straightforward process doing a clean install using the MS media creation tool: https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/software-download/windows11

I don't remember it giving me any issues despite my unsupported CPU, or anything else "hacky" about it. Is that no longer the case?

 

[Colif]

These practices sometimes look so much like theft in disguise. Prevent users from upgrading to Windows 11 (hardware not meeting the requirements) then charge them for extended Windows 10 support ! Look at those non technical unfortunates that would find it cheaper to pay for extended Windows 10 support rather than buy a new Windows 11 capable device...

Although customers were blindsided, the features Microsoft insist on in Win 11 were asked to be included in windows 10 PC. Since windows didn't insist back then but did 5 years later with Win 11, hardware makers mostly ignored the requirements on Desktop and only supplied it to Laptops as businesses were more likely to buy them

So ftpm and secure boot should be blamed on hardware makers, and not Microsoft completely. Most of whom released BIOS updates to enable the features, in PC they could. They had made boards that didn't pass, and sold them to customers, and then blamed Microsoft when they insisted.

 

[JonDol]

I briefly tried out Win11 shortly after release with my 6th gen Skylake system, and it was a pretty straightforward process doing a clean install using the MS media creation tool: https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/software-download/windows11

I don't remember it giving me any issues despite my unsupported CPU, or anything else "hacky" about it. Is that no longer the case?

I didn't try the creation tool as I wanted to upgrade instead of a clean install. The migration assistant refused to proceed due to requirements not met and with the ISO image I had to stop the installation sometime at the beginning and update the registry via command line commmands to disable the requirement check.

 

[caseym54]

I tried 11, hated it and rolled back immediately. Maybe Win 12 will fix 11's awfulness, like 7 fixed Vista.

OTOH, some mbs and Win 10 systems came with these features present but disabled. I think that some people could upgrade to 11 by enabling secure boot etc but when they attempt to do so they get some scary warning messages about disks becoming unreadable and stop.